RAAF Flight Screening Programme

[Arm out the window]

We can't all be super-fit racing ferrets such as yourself mate!

I mentioned the lettuce leaf for illustrative purposes only - the only time it'd grace my plate would be in the middle of a big greasy hamburger!

[mostlysedated]

Captain Sand Dune.

Can you help.

So if I want to fly C17's I should say i want to fly fast jet when I do the officer selection board

[Captain Sand Dune]

My previous remark about deliberately failing a FJ conversion was tongue in cheek. Honesty is the best policy. Nothing wrong about wanting to fly a C17. It sees more combat than our fighters do! (dons helmet, dives into trench and awaits incoming )

[BoxBoxCheez]

Mostlysedated,

Tell them what you want to fly, and be able to justify it.

For example, 'I want to fly C17 so I can takeoff, have a coffee, watch a computer, then wait 5 hours before I get to turn the computer off and fly again'

[finestkind]

Ohhh CSD

what a short memory you have. It was only a very recent event when the fighter fraternity were involved in air to air combat. A mere 60 to 61 years ago?


BBC

Yeah but at least its 5 hours going somewhere, doing what the aircraft is designed for and being able to take a leak beats the piddle pack

[joeboxhead]

hey guys, I am just after a few peoples opinion in terms of when i should start my application process.
Due to a few personal reasons over the past couple of months ive put on roughly 20kg. I am currently 102kg and my weight before was around 78-80kg. I was just wondering if i should wait until I am back down to my old weight before I apply or if it would be somewhat beneficial to start the process now so the DFR can see my commitment to my weight loss? I was originally leaning towards waiting it out but after reading through this thread it seems like proven commitment is a big thing in the eyes of the OSB, so if they can see my commitment to my health will this be seen as a good thing or as a bad thing for letting myself get into bad shape as it is.
Also another question I was involved in a quite violent armed robbery (gunpoint) which caused me to have roughly two months off work as the doctors and psychologists pumped me full of drugs and tried to see if I was developing PTSD. I am now 100% better and truly believe the experience has prepared me to how life may turn out in the ADF if I end up in a warzone. I am worried that they will just throw my application out the window because of this incident. My medical record will say I suffered from anxiety due to the incident but that only lasted for a few weeks after and I now have no problems with anxiety. Can anyone who has heard of a similar situation put my mind to rest?
Cheers

[finestkind]

Joe.

Given the "Very senior RAN officer" thread you may well be in for an interesting time.

[josephfeatherweight]

My medical record will say I suffered from anxiety due to the incident but that only lasted for a few weeks after and I now have no problems with anxiety. Can anyone who has heard of a similar situation put my mind to rest?

Sounds like you're suffering from anxiety? (Tongue in cheek, mate.)
Ok, re your weight. You need to lose weight for your own health, not to impress the board and convince them that you are committed/motivated.
Unlike many of my (occasionally drunk) mates, I don't believe that Defence Force Recruiting subscribe to the philosophy of "fatties need lovin' too"...
Walk in the door the first time in the right frame of mind, and in good health, and you'll stand a better chance. Re your medical record - I'm pretty sure they only know about what you tell them - your integrity would ensure you answered their questions honestly, but I'm pretty sure they don't get your medical records.

[joeboxhead]

Thanks for the replies.
I am losing weight for myself not for the board I just don't want to be thrown in the unmotivated pile if I show up to DFR overweight. Ive started my training regime now and have since lost 3kgs so all is going well on that path.
I read earlier in this thread about getting kicked off flight school (if i make it that far) if they found out you don't fully disclose your medical history. I was just thinking of getting reports off of my doctor and psychologist stating that I no longer suffer from anxiety before I have my YOU session just to make sure.
Ive set a goal to have my YOU session before July where I am aiming for my weight to be back down to around 80kg so in the meantime I will be working my ass off in the gym and studying up on everything I have learnt from this great thread.

[Very Sneaky]

Originally Posted by joeboxhead

Thanks for the replies.
I am losing weight for myself not for the board I just don't want to be thrown in the unmotivated pile if I show up to DFR overweight. Ive started my training regime now and have since lost 3kgs so all is going well on that path.
I read earlier in this thread about getting kicked off flight school (if i make it that far) if they found out you don't fully disclose your medical history. I was just thinking of getting reports off of my doctor and psychologist stating that I no longer suffer from anxiety before I have my YOU session just to make sure.
Ive set a goal to have my YOU session before July where I am aiming for my weight to be back down to around 80kg so in the meantime I will be working my ass off in the gym and studying up on everything I have learnt from this great thread.

Hey joe,

When I had my medical interview (at assessment day) the doctor was curious about why I had submitted asthma challenge test results so early and he said it had raised a few flags/made it a case of interest and asked why I had done so... I guess they were suspicious that my pre-empting the process without being directed to meant I had something to hide. It was easily explained and it made the process faster, but it might be something to consider if you're thinking about going in day 1 with your medical certificates in hand.

Cheers

VS

[cotta464]

Hey Guys,

I've heard conflicting statements on the 6 minutes maths test pass mark. Does anyone know of how many you actually need to get correct? Also what are the multiple choice answers like in comparison to each other (close or within a range that you can tell after doing some working out)?

Cheers

Cotta

[septerra]

Hello all

If any of you forum lurkers have completed the OSB only appointments that they now slot with the regular FSP groups, could you please drop me a PM.

I'm just curious as to how this affects your OSB activities. The last time I was there, it was an equal footing for all of us, since we all had a good understanding of one another's personalities and strengths, giving a good group synergy. As an OSB only candidate and joining a FSP group, I am worried that as an 'outsider' to the group, the dynamics changes quite considerably and may affect my performance.

Anyway, if any of you are interested in sharing some wisdom, please feel free to drop in a reply or a PM.

Regards
Sep

[bowers123]

OSB

Hello everyone, I am off to flight screening very soon, and I am feeling prepared, however I do have one main concern. I am applying for RAAF DEO pilot, and this is mainly because I am extremely passionate about flying and would not want to go to ADFA for 4 years before going to BFTS; however, I am only 17. Will this be a problem for the OSB? i.e will they frown upon this?

Thanks

[Winged Wombat]

Septerra,

I'm very confident that the guys at PSA will take your concerns into account. That would make sense to me.

On the other side of the coin, remember that this will be your second experience at the OSB so you actually have an advantage over the others because you've been there before.

Make sure you make use of your previous experience. Prepare well, tell the truth and try to enjoy yourself.

WW

[Fair skies]

Great forum

G'day all,

I've just finished sifting through the last 122 pages and have found it very informative indeed.

I am currently booked in for aptitude/ psych testing in the near future and feel slightly more at ease after reading through all of the previous posts so I appreciate everyone's perspective and guidance. I especially appreciate the occasional "gems" of gouge from the in service members.

Regards.

[FlyingCharlie01]

I am 15 and want to be a pilot. i am a girl who is really short. i am worried that i will not make the height. will they still take me at 160cm ?

average marks:
English B+
maths A
science A+

(those marks are with no study, i can study to achieve marks quite naturally)

[Skymong]

Hi FlyingCharlie01- defencejobs.gov has the information on height requirements for a Class 1 medical : Additional Requirements | Pilot - Defence Jobs Australia

They state a minimum height of 163 cm is required, that said I know several people who were told their sitting height was too tall to apply for Army, yet they are now wearing DPU flightsuits.

My advice is to start studying to get the best grades you can, play some team sports, join Cadets or Volunteer Fire Service and look at getting some leadership experience.

[Very Sneaky]

Originally Posted by Skymong

Hi FlyingCharlie01- defencejobs.gov has the information on height requirements for a Class 1 medical : Additional Requirements | Pilot - Defence Jobs Australia

They state a minimum height of 163 cm is required, that said I know several people who were told their sitting height was too tall to apply for Army, yet they are now wearing DPU flightsuits.

My advice is to start studying to get the best grades you can, play some team sports, join Cadets or Volunteer Fire Service and look at getting some leadership experience.

This is good advice. From my impression, the selection board are looking for people who apply themselves, not just people who have the aptitude, so starting to study and getting the best grades you can now would be a good way to start.

RE: Height - depending on how badly they want you, they can make a waiver for slight variations from the height requirements.. Whether or not 3 cm is within the acceptable limits however is another question, and one you won't likely find out until you go through the process.

To give you an example, my sitting height is 95.6 cm, 0.6cm more than the maximum for ARA, however my enlistment coordinator has told me that this shouldn't be an issue if I'm competitive enough at FSP.

[FlyingCharlie01]

Thanks all for your replies.
I have mid year exams coming up so I will sure to study hard for them. Right now I have played a good 6 different team sport and still playing 1 for club and the other 5 through school. I have been the captain of these teams on may occasions and I still am for hockey and soccer. I cox the first four in rowing which I think will help me with quick decision making and leadership skills. I have been SRC twice so far and I was one of the prefects (if you wish to call them that) in year 6.

I also have a question and I was wondering if any of you could answer it, or give me advice for this.

Should I join the Cadets (for the RAAF)?
I have been looking at joining for a while now and havent been able to find reviews on if it is good or not (I need this for my parents. I am all for it, they just want to see if it is going to be beneficial)

Thanks once again,
FlyingCharlie

[Skymong]

Sounds like you are well on your way to getting a good grounding in leadership experience!

As for Cadets, I would say absolutely. They will give you a taste of what life is like in the forces and basic skills which should help when you start Initial Officer Training.

Putting the effort in now to develop your leadership skills and gain life experience will pay off massively a few years down the line.