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JESUS H. CHRIST.
Well, I've got to find a surgeon who'll do it on me at 18 anyway. (But I think my eyes have stopped growing, seeing as my prescription hasn't changed in a long time)
Well, I've got to find a surgeon who'll do it on me at 18 anyway. (But I think my eyes have stopped growing, seeing as my prescription hasn't changed in a long time)
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What, at all? Die.
But nah, if the first time falls through, and my YOU session results are high enough for ACO, I'll pursue that avenue. If not, there are plenty of unis around here in Perth I'd consider, (psychology's been appealing to me lately...). After that, I'd apply again of course, and if that attempt fails as well along with ACO, I'll apply as an Infantry Officer, and go for aircrew a final time at the end of that ROSO if I get in. If the Infantry don't want me, I *suppose* I could try my hand at civvy flying full-time before applying the third time.
But nah, if the first time falls through, and my YOU session results are high enough for ACO, I'll pursue that avenue. If not, there are plenty of unis around here in Perth I'd consider, (psychology's been appealing to me lately...). After that, I'd apply again of course, and if that attempt fails as well along with ACO, I'll apply as an Infantry Officer, and go for aircrew a final time at the end of that ROSO if I get in. If the Infantry don't want me, I *suppose* I could try my hand at civvy flying full-time before applying the third time.
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Yeah, I had mine late november last year.
There are two math tests,
One is on aviation math (basic multiplication, division, percentages, decimal multiplication. Mainly problem solving and logic type questions. eg. two aircraft take off simultaneously from two separate bases x kilometres apart and fly towards each others bases at 200 knots and 350 knots, at what point time do the aircraft pass each other? Sorry to be so vauge though as it is on the actual test). This test requires exact answers correct to two decimal places and you are allowed paper and a pencil for working. I think if you were to put in a heap of effort on studying for the tests then these sorts of questions would take precedence as you really have to think about the question.
What I'd really be doing is practicing multiplication of large numbers (eg. 24x 182), division of large numbers and decimals (eg. 80 divided by 1.6 is the same as 800 divided by 16... much simpler for me) and working on distance speed and time questions as well as the conversion between units (eg. m/p/h and km/h). Also learn the 60 times table as it is really usefull for questions involving speed and time. I'll see if I can dig up some of the sources I used for revision and send it to you.
The second test is multiple choice and very interesting. It'll throw questions at you like 8045 divided by 3020 and multiplyed by one quarter and you're not allowed to use any paper to work the questions out (generally you can see which answers are out of the ball park). It doesn't hurt to round the figures down to the nearest thousand and work from there. The big emphasis on this one is time, don't get strung up on any one question. The same goes for the first test especially.
BTW, Did the recruiters tell you what tests in particular you didn't do so well on?
Feel free to PM me if you need a bit more info.
Good Luck
There are two math tests,
One is on aviation math (basic multiplication, division, percentages, decimal multiplication. Mainly problem solving and logic type questions. eg. two aircraft take off simultaneously from two separate bases x kilometres apart and fly towards each others bases at 200 knots and 350 knots, at what point time do the aircraft pass each other? Sorry to be so vauge though as it is on the actual test). This test requires exact answers correct to two decimal places and you are allowed paper and a pencil for working. I think if you were to put in a heap of effort on studying for the tests then these sorts of questions would take precedence as you really have to think about the question.
What I'd really be doing is practicing multiplication of large numbers (eg. 24x 182), division of large numbers and decimals (eg. 80 divided by 1.6 is the same as 800 divided by 16... much simpler for me) and working on distance speed and time questions as well as the conversion between units (eg. m/p/h and km/h). Also learn the 60 times table as it is really usefull for questions involving speed and time. I'll see if I can dig up some of the sources I used for revision and send it to you.
The second test is multiple choice and very interesting. It'll throw questions at you like 8045 divided by 3020 and multiplyed by one quarter and you're not allowed to use any paper to work the questions out (generally you can see which answers are out of the ball park). It doesn't hurt to round the figures down to the nearest thousand and work from there. The big emphasis on this one is time, don't get strung up on any one question. The same goes for the first test especially.
BTW, Did the recruiters tell you what tests in particular you didn't do so well on?
Feel free to PM me if you need a bit more info.
Good Luck
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Speed Distance Time for Dummies - The Student Room
Do all those and you will be set for life
Thats what i did at least.
Ive also got a link around here somewhere, that has exactly the same aircraft orientation diagram things that are used in the actaul spec testing.
Let me know if you want it.
Do all those and you will be set for life
Thats what i did at least.
Ive also got a link around here somewhere, that has exactly the same aircraft orientation diagram things that are used in the actaul spec testing.
Let me know if you want it.
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Hello all, first time poster long time reader.
I have recently completed the YOU session and I am now through to aircrew testing stage. Although I am quite worried about my early flying history. You see I achieved my GFPT with thirty hours total time, however I had some difficulty in my early navigation training. It took me eleven navs before I was let loose on my first solo nav. My main issue was map reading, this skill obviously took me a long time to develop. I then went on to achieve my PPL with seventy-five hours. Since then I have not had any problems with it and have ninety hours total time.
I stress this issues is no longer present, hence the PPL. When my logbook is given to the ADF will this (early nav history) hinder my chances? Or will I be given a chance to prove myself at flight screening?
Thanks everyone
I have recently completed the YOU session and I am now through to aircrew testing stage. Although I am quite worried about my early flying history. You see I achieved my GFPT with thirty hours total time, however I had some difficulty in my early navigation training. It took me eleven navs before I was let loose on my first solo nav. My main issue was map reading, this skill obviously took me a long time to develop. I then went on to achieve my PPL with seventy-five hours. Since then I have not had any problems with it and have ninety hours total time.
I stress this issues is no longer present, hence the PPL. When my logbook is given to the ADF will this (early nav history) hinder my chances? Or will I be given a chance to prove myself at flight screening?
Thanks everyone
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At least you know what in particular you need to improve the most on.
I went fairly well on the instrument comprehension test, got up to about question 52 from memory. One thing you should do is to take a really good look at the layout of the instruments in the example question just so you don't spend too much time in the test trying to decipher the poorly printed labels.
Heres some of the resources I used to revise:
http://www.airforce.mil.nz/downloads...detestinfo.pdf
(some of the questions in this test are really similar to our tests, especially the aviation math ones)
The link posted by rotor11 is another really good one I used (Theres a really good method for solving speed distance and time questions)
Another good one is the "ARCO Military Flight Aptitude Testing" book which you should be able to find for free on the internet as a pdf file, if you can't find it or it doesn't work just tell me and I'll send it to you. The aircraft orientation questions are really good because the dodgy images are just like the ones in the real test. Only some of the material in this one is relevant.
APST IPAS
Also have a quick look at some photos of macchi's, from memory the aircraft silhoutte is that of a macchi (ex RAAF and RAN training jet)
When are you re-sitting the testing?
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coolmanc172, my guess is probably not although they might pay careful attention to this in particular.
We'll see what some of the others have to say...
I went fairly well on the instrument comprehension test, got up to about question 52 from memory. One thing you should do is to take a really good look at the layout of the instruments in the example question just so you don't spend too much time in the test trying to decipher the poorly printed labels.
Heres some of the resources I used to revise:
http://www.airforce.mil.nz/downloads...detestinfo.pdf
(some of the questions in this test are really similar to our tests, especially the aviation math ones)
The link posted by rotor11 is another really good one I used (Theres a really good method for solving speed distance and time questions)
Another good one is the "ARCO Military Flight Aptitude Testing" book which you should be able to find for free on the internet as a pdf file, if you can't find it or it doesn't work just tell me and I'll send it to you. The aircraft orientation questions are really good because the dodgy images are just like the ones in the real test. Only some of the material in this one is relevant.
APST IPAS
Also have a quick look at some photos of macchi's, from memory the aircraft silhoutte is that of a macchi (ex RAAF and RAN training jet)
When are you re-sitting the testing?
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coolmanc172, my guess is probably not although they might pay careful attention to this in particular.
We'll see what some of the others have to say...
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coolmanc172,
All PSA are interested in is your total hours and recency. These are used to determine whether you are placed in the advanced or basic group. There is no NAV content in the flying you will be doing at Tamworth, it's all basic GF.
All PSA are interested in is your total hours and recency. These are used to determine whether you are placed in the advanced or basic group. There is no NAV content in the flying you will be doing at Tamworth, it's all basic GF.
With respect to the speed tests, when you start, go through and do all the questions that you know first, then go back and have a go at the ones you are not sure about/need to do some working. Pretty obvious but I'm sure it has caught people out in the past.
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I have a question!
I've been told to expect to be on a FSP on the June-July holidays but have also been told that I have an OSB for ACO(My third preference) these holidays in april.
I've gone through the vast amount of material posted in this thread but can't seem to find an answer. Do I attend an OSB for each of my three preferences or only the two services which for which my preferences are for(RAAF & RAN) or maybe just the two roles (Pilot RAAF & RAN and ACO RAAF) applyed for?
Is this a typical situation?
Cheers,
PS. Good luck with your Spec. Testing Ed
I've been told to expect to be on a FSP on the June-July holidays but have also been told that I have an OSB for ACO(My third preference) these holidays in april.
I've gone through the vast amount of material posted in this thread but can't seem to find an answer. Do I attend an OSB for each of my three preferences or only the two services which for which my preferences are for(RAAF & RAN) or maybe just the two roles (Pilot RAAF & RAN and ACO RAAF) applyed for?
Is this a typical situation?
Cheers,
PS. Good luck with your Spec. Testing Ed
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have a question!
I've been told to expect to be on a FSP on the June-July holidays but have also been told that I have an OSB for ACO(My third preference) these holidays in april.
I've gone through the vast amount of material posted in this thread but can't seem to find an answer. Do I attend an OSB for each of my three preferences or only the two services which for which my preferences are for(RAAF & RAN) or maybe just the two roles (Pilot RAAF & RAN and ACO RAAF) applyed for?
Is this a typical situation?
I've been told to expect to be on a FSP on the June-July holidays but have also been told that I have an OSB for ACO(My third preference) these holidays in april.
I've gone through the vast amount of material posted in this thread but can't seem to find an answer. Do I attend an OSB for each of my three preferences or only the two services which for which my preferences are for(RAAF & RAN) or maybe just the two roles (Pilot RAAF & RAN and ACO RAAF) applyed for?
Is this a typical situation?
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Congrats and good luck, THG.
I just came back a few days ago, but unfortunately don't have any advice I can offer aside from what is already offered in this thread. Its about as good as you'll get without giving away the secrets we were all told not to divulge, but I'll say this though: its harder, more stressful and far more fun than I'd ever expected. Amazing two weeks.
I just came back a few days ago, but unfortunately don't have any advice I can offer aside from what is already offered in this thread. Its about as good as you'll get without giving away the secrets we were all told not to divulge, but I'll say this though: its harder, more stressful and far more fun than I'd ever expected. Amazing two weeks.
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Hi All,
My gosh this thread is long and full of great info!
Was just seeing if anyone here has recently been through PSA. I've completed Assessment Day and been recommended for Pilot and ACO. So i'm looking to get up-to-date information about PSA. I've only a few motorised flying hours under my belt so i'm working on getting more. I'm currently brushing up on basic flying maths (ie knots, distance, speed etc). But is there anything I can do to improve my overall rank?
Would appreciate any assitance and look forward your advice!
Lisa
My gosh this thread is long and full of great info!
Was just seeing if anyone here has recently been through PSA. I've completed Assessment Day and been recommended for Pilot and ACO. So i'm looking to get up-to-date information about PSA. I've only a few motorised flying hours under my belt so i'm working on getting more. I'm currently brushing up on basic flying maths (ie knots, distance, speed etc). But is there anything I can do to improve my overall rank?
Would appreciate any assitance and look forward your advice!
Lisa
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I was one of the six people of our group of nine to be recommended, so now I spend my days sitting beside the phone waiting for the call that I hope is imminent 
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Well done Mudrat. I hear Raaf offers are out mid April/May, not sure about Navy though, think it's later than that but they are pretty full at the moment but good luck dude. If it's Army u want than I hope u are under 92cm sitting height! That 's what just killed me.
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Yeah I was already pretty sure I was out of the running for Army, but it was confirmed in my OSB - I exceed the max seating height. Its a bit of a disappointment seeing as Army takes so many pilots each year. As for Navy, they'll only take a handful (half dozen or less, I've been told) this year, just like the year previous and so on.
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The Army pool is quite empty now I'd say. I haven't heard from anyone that this hasn't affected. This is a response from one of my fellow flight screeners who, sadly, didn't get recommended but is so damn short he'd walk it in! ;
"What I'd like to know is how the #$&! 8cm is going to save your life when you hit the deck in a 3 tonne machine that is traveling at many meters per second. Good F#%&!ng luck! "
"What I'd like to know is how the #$&! 8cm is going to save your life when you hit the deck in a 3 tonne machine that is traveling at many meters per second. Good F#%&!ng luck! "