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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 11th Oct 2010, 05:50
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For the guys heading over to flight screening in the coming months, all the information you need is in this thread somewhere. You can't prepare for some of the things they throw at you and that's just PSA's way of determining whether or not you've got what it takes. I personally believe prior flying experience will help the flying side of things; I had ten hours on ultra-lights logged in the last twelve months and didn't do too badly with the flying but there does come a point when you're left to your natural abilities in the air.

As for the fast jet pilots doing what they're trained to do, we had a speech on why the Army and the Navy offer a better opportunity to "use your wings" than the RAAF does and the point the Lieutenant made was the fact that Australian fighter pilots hadn't been deployed to fight other aircraft since the Korean war and are more or less stuck to training the skills and abilities they may never get to use in a hostile environment.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 07:36
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I had my spec testing for pilot today. Passed with a band 1 so I am very happy right now. If anyone would like to ask questions I am happy to answer, better to ask while it's fresh in my mind. Time to prepare for assessment day!
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 08:53
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Zulk - be careful of what recruiting officers say to you especially the green. Read link from Tony360 above.

Besides there is more to the RAAF than fast jets - P3's and C130's have been in the middle east consistantly for a long time, C-17's make a regular appearence. If you go army then and you fly chooks you go to the meao - every year whilst in the squadron, if blackhawk then timor, timor and timor. Go to MRH90/tiger then read your post about fast jets.

Last year the RAN offered anyone, including those with ROSO the opportunity to transfer to army or resign such was the backlog of people waiting for conversion.

It's a great start to your flying career but be careful what lines the recruiters feed you.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 09:42
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Hi all,

I should say in advance that I am planning on calling recruiting tomorrow. However can anyone give me some advice on the following:

1/ Is it possible at all to become a pilot in the ADF with asthma? I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.

2/ I did general maths for the HSC, which I very much regret. Are there any courses that the RAAF accept as satisfying the requirements for maths. I am aware that the website refers to equivalent tertiary study, however I assume this means university and thus is not applicable to me.

As I say, I will be talking to recruiting tomorrow but I thought I'd throw these out there and see if they are a 100% no go problems.

Cheers,

J
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 09:45
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Hi everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has an opinion of this?

I have my assessment day coming up and I have been thinking over one issue. What would be there view on underage drinking?

I understand they would be against it but honestly, in my opinion, I think you would be hard pressed to find many year 11/12 aged kids that hadn't at least done it once or twice. I fall under this category - I have drunk socially with friends 3 times and I am currently 16 I have always intended to go in to the psych interview and try explain this but I am thinking that while honestly is great it might not be best in this situation. Also in replying please don't tell me how bad it is or that it is illegal etc. It is a decision I have made. Think of when you were 16/17, did you really never drink once?
Help would be greatly appreciated

Thank you,
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 09:48
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QJB,

Not sure about the asthma, but i believe there are people on here that have done courses at tafe to bring their maths up to standards. Look back through this thread and you should find an answer.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 11:06
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QJB, Have you called DFR? Although they don't have a good reputation in this thread, I daresay it's worth a shot. By the way, this might be of some relevance to you.

rhinodriver123: Well perhaps thinking about it a little might help. Looking at it rationally, think about the role you're applying for; a quick google search of 'Military Officer' yields a fair few results relating to integrity, judgement, good self conduct and all the rest of it being qualities desired in Officers.

So applying this to your situation, underage drinking and all of the associated is in the league of poor judgement/self conduct and may be looked upon that way by whoever's doing the talking.

But if asked about it and you admit to it/say it was wrong etc, they may see the integrity and maturity side of what you're saying.

Either way, you can't have been the first person to walk in there whose had something to drink whilst younger than 18.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:16
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Shonfield and Dilmah G, thanks alot for taking the time to respond. Dilmah G, that link was very useful thank you, unfortunately the very first paragraph seems to state that the asthma standards for aircrew remain unchanged. All should be revealed tomorrow when I call DFR! I'll let you know their response. Fingers crossed.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:53
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No worries mate. Hopefully DFR will have the answer for you.
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Old 11th Oct 2010, 14:23
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Frazzled - the word on the fast jet deployment was from the mouth of a Navy Lieutenant that sat on the OSB who was trying to convert the candidates from RAAF to the other two services. The C-130's, C-17's and P-3's have all been quite active but our fast jets haven't been deployed in to an environment which has seen them engage enemy aircraft or have the intent to since, from what I can gather, Korea. Of course if you're flying as apart of the RAAF's air lift and air transport wings you're going to see quite a bit of real action as opposed to the training action you'd likely be involved with for the majority of (if not all of) your career as a FJ pilot, unless of course WWIII breaks out in the next two decades.
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 00:22
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Zulk

I think frazzled thought you were preaching the navy line rather than simply reporting on your experience at Tamworth.

You forgot to mention that you still have the RAAF as your preferred service and that the F/A 18 replaced the C-17 as your first preference after the flight program.
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 01:35
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Just called DFR, very short conversation. They said they couldn't give me an answer, but seemed to suggest that asthma would be evaluated on a case by case basis. They told me I should go to the recruiting office in Parramatta to get more advice. Fingers still crossed!
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 04:22
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Frazzled - the word on the fast jet deployment was from the mouth of a Navy Lieutenant that sat on the OSB who was trying to convert the candidates from RAAF to the other two services. The C-130's, C-17's and P-3's have all been quite active but our fast jets haven't been deployed in to an environment which has seen them engage enemy aircraft or have the intent to since, from what I can gather, Korea. Of course if you're flying as apart of the RAAF's air lift and air transport wings you're going to see quite a bit of real action as opposed to the training action you'd likely be involved with for the majority of (if not all of) your career as a FJ pilot, unless of course WWIII breaks out in the next two decades.
Our Hornets might be fighters but they're equal part attack, and have been deployed in Iraq in 2003 where they involved in plenty of combat missions, Diego Garcia in 2001 too (though I can't remember what the latter involved).

As for the talk that is given at FSP, I don't think he was so much trying to "convert" people from RAAF to the other services, rather open your eyes to the the bigger picture and the possibilities the other services offer. A couple of the guys on our course only had RAAF as a preference, and after that upgraded them all to most preferred. Mission accomplished!

How'd you fare at FSP anyway, enjoy yourself?
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Old 14th Oct 2010, 10:58
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QJB,

I'm currently applying for RAAF pilot and have a history of asthma as a young kid, however in the the last few years it has subsided to nothing. I do a fair bit of sport and never feel affected by it, but I always carry a ventolin inhaler to sport, and occasionally (every few months) use it, just as a precaution really. This put enough doubt in the mind of the doc at my assessment day to not clear me as medically fit, even though I had a respiratory test at a hospital which indicated no signs of asthma. So he sent my medical to the aviation medical department in Adelaide for them to make the decision. After about 6 weeks I'm still waiting for their decision. Regardless of the verdict, I'm confident I can fight it and hopefully one day get in.

Just though I'd tell you my encounter with asthma and DFR. Hope it helps you and anyone else in a similar situation
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Old 14th Oct 2010, 11:47
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rhinodriver123 - I think that when it comes to underage drinking it's best to be honest with DFR, I swear those psych's can read your mind anyway. As long as you don't give the reason "because everyone else was doing it" and instead gave an answer that comes from a place of maturity you should be fine.

How did you guys that just did FSP go?
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 05:28
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Hey guys,

I'm going for my assessment day for RAAF pilot next week and was wondering if anyone can give me any pointers on the defence interview? Do they ask anything about RAAF history or anything like that? Is there a certain area I should focus my study on?

Thanks!
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 06:58
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vandelay industries keep fighting the fight. I myself had to appeal a decision made by AVMED and I finally got approval to continue with my application. Now my app is at PSA and hopefully I'll get a spot on FSP. Fingers crossed I can do ok in Tamworth and hopefully be offered a position (Navy but I'd probably take anything). Small steps though is what I'd recommend with collating your application, also do research yourself and not totally rely on DFR. Specialist reports and examples to prove your fitness would be helpful. Good luck!!
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 08:27
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Caity,

There's no point repeating it because the answers are in this thread! If you really want it, have a sift through.
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Old 16th Oct 2010, 11:27
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Howdy fellas,

Been a while since I last posted. Just been occupied with other stuff.

Now, like I mentioned a while back, I completed my recruitment process until the Assessment day interviews and was recommended for RAAF Pilot and SSO Pilot. Since then I have made quite a number of phone calls to DFR regarding my application being sent away to PSA. My current status is 'Permanent Resident of Australia' making me eligible for Citizenship on March next year.

I was told during my YOU session that I would be allowed to progress upto my OSB with my residency and then upon being recommended by the board, will have to wait until applying for citizenship to enlist. All my calls since my Assessment day have provided me with no information as to what my current situation is. All I am told every time I call is that I would not receive a call from PSA until a date that is closer to me applying for Citizenship, like sometime around January. However, I am sure that a few of you on these forums have been able to progress through to the FSP while on a 'Permanent Residency'. Can anyone who has any information regarding this, or anyone who has completed the FSP with a residency shed some light.

Also, can someone please let me know if you receive a confirmation letter when your file gets sent off to PSA - something along the lines of, 'your file is now at PSA and would stay on file for x no. of days,......'. I asked them about this and my case manager replied that she'll refer to a Lieutenant and get back to me, but its been a month and I havnt received a call since.

Any help is appreciated. This is extremely frustrating since I am unable to get a firm answer about anything.

Best Regards
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Old 16th Oct 2010, 13:01
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You get a letter confirming your file is at PSA, at least I did anyway. I think you are kept on file for 12 months.
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