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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 26th Sep 2016, 00:20
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Originally Posted by FlyLowFlySlow View Post
Makes you wonder how they would screen for air sickness, in some cases it could be a deal breaker in terms of recommendations. Perhaps a flight or two of aeros in the PC-21 to see how candidates react to the airborne environment.
There is no way in the world that FSP students will ever set foot in a real live airborne PC-21...
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 04:06
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adbailey 121 - I don't know of any offers coming back for that intake but I know that some distributions have gone out already. Al the information points to offers in Nov/Dec and by looking at this forum everyone seems to get notified around then.

FLFS - my thoughts exactly, I quizzed a few people (not the powers that be) down at FSP about their thoughts and they seemed just as curious.

Slezy9 - maybe not necessarily in control but in the passenger seat for a ride in the washing machine would go a ways as to assessing air sickness risk. It's a fairly important consideration although it's not strictly assessed.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 04:56
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Hi Adbailey121,

I have heard that files have been sent to Canberra, but dont know of anyone getting a letter of offer yet. Can anyone update us? If your file was sent, what are your chances of getting a letter of offer?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:31
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When I attended flight screening in early May, I asked one of the instructors what would happen to flight screening when BFTS moves? He said that flight screening would stay at Tamworth on the CT4s. This makes sense, because if there is no 'Australian flying' occurring at Tamworth(currently BFTS, Singapore and another Asian country are training there pilots at Tamworth on the CT4s) then why should it exist?

Also...if the aviation fleet of all 3 services is expanding....they would need to put more candidates through flight screening to fill the pilot roles...therefore more room for more courses to be run at Tamworth, where BFTS currently fill most accomodation.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:53
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I've got my assessment day on the 4th of October and I'm really prepared for it. Just wondering if anyone knows how full flight screening is for a DEO with there only being 3 screens run for the rest of the year. Thanks guys wish me luck!
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 23:11
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Toothless,

Sorry to burst your bubble but unless you have zero medical quirks(?) at assessment and they manage to get you in to the specialists the week after your assessment (and nothing goes wrong there either), I'd say it's pretty much impossible to get you on a DEO FSP this year unless you are god's gift to the ADF in terms of your dossier. Unfortunately in almost all of the experiences I've heard, the longest wait in the process (excluding waiting for an offer) is going from assessment to FSP.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 09:28
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ThisIsntLegalAdvice,

Yeah I sort of expected you'd say something along those lines. DFR scheduled my assessment day ASAP in hopes there were a few places left at the end of October. That being said if it was next year I wouldn't be too worried because that's plenty of time to prepare. Also you mentioned the specialist's the week after, what's that? I did the additional testing after my YOU session I didn't know there was more. Thanks mate.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 22:28
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Toothless, the specialist appointments include a full optical assesment with an optometrist or ophthalmologist, a dental assesment and X-ray at a dentist and a full blood test (cholesterol and blood diseases).

I secured a spot on FSP about a month after my specialist appointments and 5 weeks before the FSP start date.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 23:40
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I hate being doom and gloom, you may have a good run and be through by the end of the year. If not, it's definitely not to say you can't get through it either!

Just be aware that if the Dr finds anything interesting/unusual during your medical during assessment, as they did for me, you can expect a much longer wait. First you'll have to arrange your own medical specialist testing, paid by you, to prove you're not defective and then AvMed has to make their own decision about your airworthiness (which took 8 weeks on top of the time it took for DFR to collate all my results).

I did my assessment November last year, had a few flags raised. Saw my own specialists in Feb/Mar, reports back to DFR by April, told I was approved by AvMed for FSP by mid June, mid July had date for FSP/OSB start of August. So all up the process will have taken close to 12 months and it will be over 12 months if I get an offer for next year. Which means I'm repeating my medical :|
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 21:50
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Originally Posted by Brenno17 View Post
When I attended flight screening in early May, I asked one of the instructors what would happen to flight screening when BFTS moves? He said that flight screening would stay at Tamworth on the CT4s. This makes sense, because if there is no 'Australian flying' occurring at Tamworth(currently BFTS, Singapore and another Asian country are training there pilots at Tamworth on the CT4s) then why should it exist?
Your instructor should pay more attention to the briefings they have received. Flight screening is moving to RAAF East Sale... In a couple of years there will be no ADF flying on the CT4.
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 11:15
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Does anyone know how long it takes the FSP board to actually give you a spot before they call you.

I got offered OSB for ACO and JBAC and the lady told me almost instantly that I will not be paneled for flight screening this year, which makes sense because I did assessment day in August and finished medicals in late august.

I know they call you around 2 weeks out but once they receive your file how is it distributed? If you are amazing do you get paneled sooner than those already locked in?? I just want to know if they see your application do they instantly grade it as competitive and give you a spot, even if it is months down the track?

Would I not have been paneled this year because the spots for OSB were already booked, or because I am not competitive??


To the people going to OSB over the next 6 weeks, good luck and see if you can sus out an info for us folk
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 04:44
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harrybass3,

There are several points to touch on but briefly:

Once your files is ticked off/recommended by DFR (for pilot and FSP), it gets sent to PSA at Tamworth - this can take a few weeks. Once there your dossier has to be paper graded by the board their to determine its competitiveness.

Once it gets a graded score, you will sit in the FSP pool until your file is competitive enough amongst those there to be placed on an FSP course. If your dossier is amazing, you will sit amongst the top applicants ready to be placed for the next available/applicable course (DEO/ADFA). You can get notified anywhere from a month to a week out from FSP depending on late pullouts etc.

I would think it unlikely (although not impossible) that they would bother booking FSP programs more than a month or two in advance because it is not in their interests to do so.

According to the FSP PSA course schedule - the end of the year is mostly ADFA candidates so that they can get them ready prior to offers early in the new year and courses starting early next year. I can't speak to what the story is if you're an ADFA candidate; it seems like there are 4 more courses from Nov through to Dec. If you are a DEO candidate, the last 3 courses for FSP for this year are 16 Oct, 23 Oct and 30 Oct. Unless someone pulls out, they will most likely have already been filled for the year.

Without knowing your personal circumstances, it is most likely you were not paneled because the courses were already full. If you are highly competitive and someone pulls out, you might get offered a spot on one of the above but this is less than likely. It may of course also be a case of your file not being particularly competitive in which case you are in the waiting game with most people.

Let me know if there's something I haven't covered!
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 14:20
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Legal Advice,

Thanks for the help.

I think it would be most likely it is that FSP is full. If I was not competitive as an officer I don't think they would have sent me a OSB slot for ACO and JBAC. They obviously think I have the leadership skills and potential.

My medical was only just passed with provisional clearance for all my preferences. I am a DEO candidate so it may just mean flight screening was full for the year, which gives me peace of mind.
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 05:02
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Back tracking through this thread suggests offers for the first courses of the year are released around the 3rd week of November.

I'm fishing here - BUT, has anyone got some intel from DFR case managers / Tamworth on release dates to suggest the same or anything different (RAAF)?
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 06:44
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I got the call mid December last year for a February FSP. Easiest way to get the info you need is to ring Pilot Selection Flight (FSP) and ask how your dossier looks. Your dossier is graded and then place in the selection pool, they should give you a good idea about where you are sitting and when they'll look at filling spots for next year.
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 13:44
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Hey guys,

Does anyone know of any Army Officers who've attempted pilot selection and got through to the RAAF? I might "have a friend" who's a current cadet at RMC-D, slowly realising that they may have made a grave mistake in their career choice, and is currently looking at options to rectify that.

The alternative is leaving RMC and either applying in-service as a reserve officer cadet, or leaving altogether and reapplying through DFR - both of which involve not completing RMC, which would obviously look bad to a pilot OSB, although there is the possibility of commissioning once in the reserves, which would at least show commitment to finish what one started (the journey to commission). Life advice from those in the know appreciated. PMs preferred.
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Old 13th Oct 2016, 23:17
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Hey all,

Has anyone got any gouge about offers and/or intakes for RAAF/NAVY/ARMY next year?

Asking for a friend...
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 00:39
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TILA,
If the previous Army intake is anything to go off offers will be put later this month. I couldn't say the same about the other 2 services though.

Dilmah G,
I have PM'd you.
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 07:06
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MrKhargify

I would like to message you or email you in regards to FSP but do not know how to?
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Old 24th Oct 2016, 01:03
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I am a long time reader but first time poster here and would like to start by thanking everyone for their contributions to this thread. It is an invaluable resource for those approaching flight screening.


My file was sent to Tamworth in September and I am eagerly awaiting a place at Flight Screening. In response to those asking about offers/intakes for next year I spoke to PSA this morning and was told that the next round of placements will be made in early December. I was also told that I am sitting in the middle of the pool which makes me a little apprehensive because (like all of us) I was aiming to be at the top.


Does anyone have any experience with pool placements? More specifically, do people in the middle of the pool generally get a spot eventually, or am I realistically looking at remaining in limbo while stronger applicants are put into the pool of candidates?
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