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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 24th Feb 2014, 23:09
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Thanks VS, much appreciated. I can imagine it would be extremely hard to retain info while you’re trying to combat air sickness. I just finished the Wings book and the ADFmentors book so pretty much ready for OSB, just trying to get the flying stuff down now. I will make sure I do a bit of aero’s before I head up there!
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 04:03
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Talking

Thanks Shipper and Gordy, an hour sounds like the way to go. Awesome tip with the chair flying too Shipper, do you get a big CT4 cockpit poster when you get there?

@ Ben Ten – Just wondering what the ADFmentors book is? Also I ditto the air sickness advice. I was pretty disorientated the first time I did aero’s.
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 05:25
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I think there is a misconception in regards to flying time. From the recent few posts and from my application it's evident that picking up bad habits is the biggest reason to not get a large amount flying experience. I believe not having some experience is highly unwise. Your not going to pick up bad habits from any flying school, sure they're not going to teach you exactly how the raaf would but the lessons they teach are still worthwhile. Bad habits start to be.formed when you have your ppl and flying solo in the country, you start to cut corners, not from having less than 20 hours from a flying school. My recommendation to anyone serious in joining the adf as a pilot is flying hours. The.more the better, if you pay for your lessons it shows excellent motivation. If money is a problem I recommend doing aerobatics. Sure you won't get as many hours but the flying itself is more valuable. I would rather have 5 hours aerobatics than 20 hours straight and level. Aerobatics teaches you excellent hands and feet coordination aswell as becoming accustomed to the environment of pulling g and strange attitudes. To recap, get as many hours as possible, preferably aerobatics. Any decent amount of hours, around 10, proves your keen to fly. Bad habits are simply not a concern with such few hours, sure you may have to forget a few things and just do as your told but not much of an issue.

Good luck with all your applications I hope this helps. Cheers, Alec
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 18:40
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Alec, you should be applauded for doing your best to provide some helpful advice to potential ADF aviators - however, despite your best intentions, not all of what you've offered above, is correct. Unfortunately, it is possible to be taught bad habits at some flying schools, even at an early stage. I do agree that the potential for "cementing" bad habits comes later on in your aviation life (eg PPL as you say) but I have seen some appalling instruction from civilian instructors that would not put a potential ADF candidate in good stead. Granted, this is of course rare, but some of the emphasis that the ADF places on different aspects of aircraft handling (eg aircraft attitude) doesn't get the same emphasis in civilian aviation. Please note, I am being "general", I am sure (and know) there are numerous exceptions.
I think there is a "happy medium" when it comes to previous experience. Yes, I highly recommend aerobatic experience - if only to see if you like it and can manage to do it without feeling insanely sick - don't worry if you do initially, most people do, you need to see if you can get over it!
Failing that, even a candidate with significant previous experience can do well, provided they have the right attitude. (Possible pun intended...)
Unfortunately I have no exact number for the "happy medium" level of experience! Of course it will vary with each individual...
Good luck!

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Old 5th Mar 2014, 00:41
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Hey ranopaul, basically the ADF Mentors book helps you prepare for the interview questions. I found out about it through a friend that’s a RAAF Pilot. If you google it you should find it.

Ben
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Old 5th Mar 2014, 10:58
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I have been reading this thread for a while now, finally commenting as I have been given a date for my FSP and OSB.

Anyone on this forum heading to Tamworth on the 22nd of March as DEO?

I know I am still in the process however this thread is for advice, so if anyone needs help during their process of the YOU Session, Specialised testing or Assessment session for Pilot, I'll help the best I can if needed.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 03:16
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Hey guys, first post.

Just wondering who else is going to Tamworth soon?

Cheers
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 03:54
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In response to Alec regarding flying hours, any more than 10 hours and you change to the intermediate testing which is significantly more involved. I personally would recommend get as close to 10 hours without going over and do them as close to your FSP course as possible.

I went to FSP last month with just under 8 hours from several years before my FSP, another person had only 4 hours that were much more recent. Our course had 5 recommendations from 6 people, and I know myself and the person with 4 hours have just received letters of offer from RAAF.
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Old 12th Mar 2014, 03:36
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Hi bek14,

Firstly, best of luck for the 22nd March, I hope it all goes well for you.

I was just wondering if you could tell me how long it was between your Assessment Session and receiving notification of your FSP/OSB date?

Cheers
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 15:22
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Hi Ferguson14,

I got back a few weeks ago and between assesment day and the course start date for me was approximately 8 weeks, but that was over the christmas period as well where everything shuts down for about 2 weeks. I heard that they were struggling to get numbers for the FSP courses and out of our group I think we all had 2 weeks notice so make sure you're available. Of course it's also dependant on how well you have performed up until this point as selection for FSP is competitive (I wasn't really aware of that until later.)

I also heard that the distribution pool is quite low at the moment, again not sure how reliable that is but one of the guys on the BFTS course told us.

Good Luck!
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 18:42
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Guys, just a word of encouragement. I joined the RAAF in the late 80s, yep before most of you were born. it was the best thing I ever did. I have been in 4 airlines and now corporate since I left the RAAF. But nothing will ever top military flying, military training, military chicks, the military camaraderie and the life long friendships. I miss it with a passion. Go your hardest, give it your best - you will never regret it.
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 06:16
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G'day

Anyone have info on whether the Army distribution call that was to go out this month has already been completed? A PM or a reply would be appreciated and would be a great relief to know either way. Anxious, anxious.

On a side note, I am a little too old for RAAF at this stage, and am curious to find out what the maximum age of a successful Army pilot application that you are aware of. I'm contemplating focusing on other things for a couple of years and perhaps start the process again when I'm about 28 years of age, so looking at around 29-30 years of age by intake date if I am successful at that point. Would age be a big deterrent for Army?

Regs
K
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 08:01
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Originally Posted by septerra
G'day

Anyone have info on whether the Army distribution call that was to go out this month has already been completed? A PM or a reply would be appreciated and would be a great relief to know either way. Anxious, anxious.

On a side note, I am a little too old for RAAF at this stage, and am curious to find out what the maximum age of a successful Army pilot application that you are aware of. I'm contemplating focusing on other things for a couple of years and perhaps start the process again when I'm about 28 years of age, so looking at around 29-30 years of age by intake date if I am successful at that point. Would age be a big deterrent for Army?

Regs
K
I've spoken to my enlistment coordinator about age; she said that while it is a stated preference, it has very little bearing on their decision to tender you an offer unless you're really pushing the upper end of the age bracket or you've displayed exactly the same potential/skill as another candidate younger than you, AND there isn't room for both of you (which seems to be a very specific scenario, and not one that I can imagine would arise often). I can't speak from experience, but this is what she told me and I have heard of people who are well into their 30s receiving offers for the RAAF. As for the army, the GSO Pilot page states: "Applicants must be aged between 17 and 49 years of age inclusive on entry." (for Duntroon candidates, different for ADFA)
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 01:58
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I can support this claim, I had a chat with a 2fts instructor at the pt cook air show and he said they get late 20s early 30s students through quiet regularly. If you want it - go after it mate!
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 11:31
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FSP Notice

Hi Ferguson14!

Sorry it's a late reply.... I got a call about 2-3 weeks after my assessment session. I leave on the 22nd of March so in total it has been just over a month since my assessment to going for Flight Screening and OSB. As Rivercat mentioned, it all depends on how you and the dossier you sent away are ranked against other candidates. I also didn't know this until recently... I believe it was mentioned somewhere in this thread

Best of luck!
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Old 21st Mar 2014, 04:12
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Hey Bek14,

Did you go through Wollongong DFR by any chance? I've just completed my Assessment Session and received a recommendation, and the staff there mentioned they'd had someone who'd only gone through a few weeks ago getting on to flight screening this week!

Good luck!
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 05:00
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Hi guys.

Long time reader. I thought I'd introduce myself since I have my YOU session on tuesday (1st) and will hopefully be going to flight screening in the coming months. I know a few of you are at tamworth at the moment so I'm hoping there can be a little bit of shared info when you return

For the others, does anyone know if there is truth behind these rumors about the RAAF increasing their recommendation score to 4.0? I'm not sure where they stemmed from, but does anyone know the source?

Cheers!
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 05:19
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Hi Showaard,

The rumour of the increase in RAAF scores has been discussed a number of times on this thread, but I will repeat. Basically, the RAAF is only interested in guys who are capable and interested in going to fast jets, hence they have set the score to achieve this. There is also the 'gate' which means that even though you pass BFTS, that doesnt guarentee you a spot at 2FTS, this is only applicable to RAAF candidates.

Good luck with your YOU session, and additional testing, and assessment day. Hopefully you are all squared away with the medical side of things - from experience, that is where the delays come in.

Gordy.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 07:52
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Thanks for your reply gordy. I understand the reasoning behind the change, what I am wondering is whether there is actually any merit behind these rumors and what the sources were.

Thanks also for the well-wishes, I am getting a little bit nervous now about both the YOU and assessment day. Just out of curiosity, how much preparation did people actually do for theirs? I have actually passed the YOU before, back when it was called JOES, about 7 years ago but i can't remember too much about the aptitude questions and such. I understand much of this has been discussed before, however it never hurts to get fresh opinions
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Old 31st Mar 2014, 16:23
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Hi Showaard,

I went through FSP a few weeks ago and am awaiting an offer and yes the rumours about increased stadards are true and the RAAF is only looking at about the top third applicants in the distribution pool.

From memory YOU Assessment was easy, simple IQ test style questions, nothing to worry about.

Specialist skills assessment was a bit harder and and I think the only prep I did was mental arithmetic.

Assessment day wasn't too bad but lots of prep made it much easier. Know as much as you can about your chosen service and training pipeline and current ADF leaders as well as things such as the defence white paper etc. Also make sure you know what your motivations to join are and display some level of understanding about how your life will differ in the defence force (I encountered these subjects in my Assessment but they do differ.)

PM m if you have any more questions. Best of luck!
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