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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 1st Jul 2013, 08:04
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Hi everyone, I have just completed my YOU session successfully and have been booked into pilot specific aptitude testing. Anyone know what this entails
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 09:22
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Neopowered,
No, there shouldn't be any conversion as you mention. More speed, distance, time.

High Calibre,
A thorough reading of this thread would answer all your questions, plus more.
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Old 4th Jul 2013, 15:33
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If its an ongoing issue I would imagine it would exclude you, and yes you should disclose it. Imagine going through basic training and putting your back out, then they find out and you'll never get another chance because you were dishonest.

I had a hernia removed when I was 2 and it wasn't an issue, but I'm not sure what criteria was used in that decision. I would imagine if you can get it fixed and you can have a specialist give you the all clear then it shouldn't be too much of an issue, but only an AVMed doctor could tell you exactly the variables and likelihoods are.

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Old 5th Jul 2013, 06:44
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Hi Everyone.

Just saw this thread and remembered the help I received here a few years back in getting in. Its basically the same process and testing/interviews although they seem to be a lot more fast jet specific ATM.

I passed all the testing and interviews, flight screening and scored very competitively and basically got taken in on the next intake. I'm happy to take PMs and share some knowledge to people who are serious about trying to get in.

PM me with any specific queries you may have and I'll try respond
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Old 5th Jul 2013, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Sashisruski
I don't get any pain and doctors wont operate unless its a serious case. 60% of hiatal hernias dont have any symptoms. I'll inform them about it

Hopefully my chiropracter can work some magic. btw i had a class 1 medical from casa, maybe that can change their minds
Well, like I said AVMed are the only ones who can give you a definitive answer. I hope it goes well for you!
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Old 6th Jul 2013, 00:18
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Hi all,

I’ve been a long time reader and having just gone through from start to finish of this thread I must say what an amazing resource. A massive thank you goes out and is certainly owed to all the contributors.

A bit about myself, I'm 26 (nearly 27) and am applying for DEO for the RAAF. Late in 2009 I went through the process, making it through to assessment day but I was turned away at that point for 6 months with my lack of recent team sports being cited as a major factor. To be honest I also believe my motivation was questioned as at that point I was 23 and I had not taken any steps towards powered flight training and although I did have 20 gliding hours, my Psych interviewer was very adamant that if I was as passionate about flying as I was making out to be I would have done more about it.

I didn’t return after 6 months as I moved overseas mid-2010 and upon returning I was accepted to start a Bachelor of Aviation beginning 2011. Fast forward to now and I'm very soon to graduate from that and also a Graduate Diploma in Aviation. I have my CPL + MECIR and ~ 350 hours with quite a bit of aerobatics under my belt. The burning desire for a career in the RAAF is stronger than ever and I'm hoping that I have covered my previous shortfalls. I’ve re-activated my application and will be sitting my YOU day again shortly.

A few of my major concerns are that with my flying experience I no doubt will have developed some bad habits and that being nearly 27 the age window is closing on me fast. However I am going into this giving my all so if I don't make it I will know it wasn't meant to be. Has anybody gone through FSP with a similar number of hours who can comment on how this affected them be it for the positive or negative?

Sorry about the essay and best of luck to those currently in the process!

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Old 6th Jul 2013, 01:13
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You guys that have sat the aircrew testing and passed, how many of the 60 questions in the first test (instrument reading) did you complete?

And can anyone give info on the memory test for the second part of the day?
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Old 6th Jul 2013, 02:55
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Originally Posted by neopowered34
You guys that have sat the aircrew testing and passed, how many of the 60 questions in the first test (instrument reading) did you complete?

And can anyone give info on the memory test for the second part of the day?
Hey mate, I answered around 50 - I think it might've been a little under. Having said that, all of the other blokes I was with finished it.

RE the memory test, we were shown a continuous series of numbers, which we were required to input the same way with an increasing displacement, i.e. 2 places, 3 places, 4 places, 5 places. For example, if the number series was 5, 9, 8, 3, 2, 7, 7, then to repeat it with 2 displacements would be entered as follows: "...", "...", "5", "9", "8", "3", "2, "7, "7". It is important to note that the number series was not given all at once, but at the same time you are required to input the numbers. Essentially for 2 displacements, the numbers would begin to display, you would wait for 2 to show, then start inputting the numbers in sequence of appearance. I'm not sure if this is a terribly clear explanation but I hope it helps
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Old 6th Jul 2013, 07:02
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Thanks Very Sneaky appreciate your response! Test is only 2 sleeps away, will post up how I go Monday afternoon

So with the memory one, the six numbers you are given remain the same however you just need to keep adding/remembering new ones. 2, then 3, then 4 different ones as they add them on? so using your example it could be first two numbers they give as 1,7 then you enter 5982377, next time 3 digits 1,7,6, then 5982377 etc?

Geoff

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Old 6th Jul 2013, 07:57
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Originally Posted by neopowered34
Thanks Very Sneaky appreciate your response! Test is only 2 sleeps away, will post up how I go Monday afternoon

So with the memory one, the six numbers you are given remain the same however you just need to keep adding/remembering new ones. 2, then 3, then 4 different ones as they add them on? so using your example it could be first two numbers they give as 1,7 then you enter 5982377, next time 3 digits 1,7,6, then 5982377 etc?

Geoff
No worries Geoff. The example I used was just for the purpose of explaining it. The numbers will continue for each until you finish the test (maybe 15-20 numbers?) or get 2 in a row wrong (maybe 3? its been a while). You sort of have the right idea; for 2 displacements you'll need to remember the 2 numbers prior to the number currently shown, 3 numbers for 3 displacements and 4 for 4 displacements.

Heres an example for 2 displacements using the numbers 5, 9, 8, 2, 3, 7, 7:

Screen 1:
Input (what you enter): -
Number Given: 5

Screen 2:
Input: -
Number: 9

Screen 3:
Input: 5
Number: 8

Screen 4:
Input: 9
Number: 2

Screen 5:
Input: 8
Number: 3

Screen 6:
Input: 2
Number: 7

Screen 7:
Input: 3
Number: 7

etcetera. It's quite a difficult task, especially when you have to remember 3 or 4 numbers, so don't stress out too much if you don't feel like you did well, chances are you did better than you thought. I remember thinking I failed, and I was told I did quite well - I thought they were having me on at the time!

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Old 8th Jul 2013, 05:20
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Finished my Pilot Specialist Testing today and somehow, someway I managed to pass! Feels really good after not doing well enough over a year ago. Now to wait for my assessment day to be booked
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 05:37
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Hi guys, I have my aircrew specific testing this coming Monday (pretty excited/packing it at the same time) I'm just wondering if someone could answer, what should I wear? If it something I should get really dressed up for? Or is smart casual acceptable?

Thanks,
Ben.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 13:35
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I did mine last Monday in Brisbane, just wore long suit pants with a long sleeve collared shirt (no tie) you need to be comfortable in it that's for sure. Good luck anyways
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Old 12th Jul 2013, 01:25
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Personally I would be treating every interaction with DFR as a job interview. Wear what you would wear if you were being interviewed for the position (as realistically that is what is happening). When I went through the process last time I went in full suit and tie every step of the way and I fully intend on doing the same this time around.

If your clothes fit correctly they should be comfortable! How you present yourself speaks volumes, a picture is worth a thousand words after all!
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 22:01
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Hello everyone,

I have been reading this thread the last couple of days and I must say, It is extremely helpful.

A bit about myself: I first applied for pilot out of high school in 2005 and failed my pilot specific test (due to lack of study and ignorance on my part). I was a part of the AAFC from 2000 - 2005 and completed 18.6 hours in a Cessna 152 in Townsville, I was awarded the Peter Vidler Scholarship which provided a little bit of money towards my flying as well. Since I failed my testing I applied to the defence force to gain some experience, leadership skills and operational experience, I am now a serving member of the ARA for the last 5 years as an RAE combat engineer LCPL. I have deployed on OP SLIPPER and been posted to 3CER, 21 CONST SQN and now 20 EOD SQN. Whilst on deployment (between JUN - NOV 2012) I made the decision that I would reapply and put everything I had into achieving my childhood dream to fly, and as the name suggests I want to fly the C-17 through the RAAF DEO scheme. Since then I have submitted the appropriate paperwork and got the ball rolling, I am now waiting on my PSYCH / Pilot Specific Test to complete my application to send to the PSA. I have sought to conduct OJT's at 36 Sqn to gain some working experience within an active Sqn and I am going to take couple of more flying lessons to get back into the mind set.

My current priority is to pass the Aptitude test! I was almost about to buy a session with the PATS in Melbourne until I read the comments in this forum (Thanks for saving me $3500). I am fine with Instrument reading, coordination and estimation tests, though I hate to admit that my speed, distance and time skills are not so great, so I am working on rectifying that. At the same time I am researching everything I can for the OSB before I head to Tamworth so I am not ‘cramming’ while I am there.

My question is to the already ADF pilots out there is, from what I have told you, are there any shortfalls that you can see that will effect my success? What sort of questions do you think they will ask me?
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 09:58
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C17_wannabe

One of their questions will most likely be what your reaction will be when you don't get sent to C17, and instead fly King Air. On the other hand, if you do well enough they will send you to jets, how will your motivation fare?
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 12:08
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Had my pilot aptitude testing today and am being progressed to the assessment day.....pretty happy strange thing is I don't really feel super excited. More just looking at how much more I need to learn and remember before the assessment day.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 21:19
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Being apprehensive is normal.

While you will have some good and memorable experiences on the way through pilots course, it really is a day to day proposition where you need to just keep on keeping on!
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Old 16th Jul 2013, 01:14
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My answer to that is very simple, C-17 is a preference. I would be happy to fly anything. If I get offered fast jets then my motivation would be higher than ever to succeed and be the best within that stream.
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Old 16th Jul 2013, 14:11
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C17

C17, the current RAAF training pipeline is focused around producing Fighter Pilots. You will be questioned as to why you want C17 over FJ's right through the whole training scheme. They may evan question if it is worth training you if you don't want to be a FJ pilot first and foremost. My advice is to be very smart with your answer, pick your words wisely.

Further, preferences for platform type are not formally taken any more at postings time. The fate of your future comes down to your performance, RAAF demand, your QFI's advice to the CO and ultimately the CO 2FTS. Good luck and enjoy the ride.

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