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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 18th Apr 2013, 16:41
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I guess its designed to filter out the weaker trainees, ones who look like they might scrape the grade for multi-engine streaming but would probably not make it for fast jet.

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Old 18th Apr 2013, 16:44
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Off on a tangent; anyone have an idea how long you are likely to wait for specialist medical checks after FSP these days? Assuming you pass.....
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 22:49
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You may just have to pretend to be a supermodel for a while and eat a lettuce leaf a day! Good luck.
We can't all be super-fit racing ferrets such as yourself mate!
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 23:03
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Oh wow. That's a massive change. I'm not sure I see how this increases the recruitment of 'jet' caliber pilots... I'd have thought having the wider range of selection would've been more desirable.

Is this applicable for pilots who elect to go down a jet 'stream', or is it applicable to all pilots? Just wondering how it affects pilots aiming to fly aircraft in other roles i.e. air lift or bizjets
This policy is applicable to all RAAF pilots. The fast jet world is hurting for numbers. The non-FJ units are over-stocked with pilots. The reasons why are another argument altogether.
It's basically supply and demand. It's their train set, so they recruit and man as they see fit. Personally I reckon there's better ways to go about it, but apparently the opinion of a 28+ years pilot doesn't count for much.

I guess one way around it is to say you want to go FJ, fail the course and get posted to where you want to go anyway!. One word of advice though, don't tell them you want to fly "bizjets" (I assume you mean VIP). The RAAF wants combat aviators, not airline pilots.
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Old 19th Apr 2013, 04:51
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Originally Posted by Captain Sand Dune
This policy is applicable to all RAAF pilots. The fast jet world is hurting for numbers. The non-FJ units are over-stocked with pilots. The reasons why are another argument altogether.
It's basically supply and demand. It's their train set, so they recruit and man as they see fit. Personally I reckon there's better ways to go about it, but apparently the opinion of a 28+ years pilot doesn't count for much.

I guess one way around it is to say you want to go FJ, fail the course and get posted to where you want to go anyway!. One word of advice though, don't tell them you want to fly "bizjets" (I assume you mean VIP). The RAAF wants combat aviators, not airline pilots.
Thanks for the clarification CSD, that's helpful. I am personally aiming for fast jets, but I was curious about the other roles and I know it would be relevant for others on here so I asked the question. I guess it's just another hurdle in a string of many to jump over... if that's what it takes then bring it on
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Old 19th Apr 2013, 12:16
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We can't all be super-fit racing ferrets such as yourself mate!
I mentioned the lettuce leaf for illustrative purposes only - the only time it'd grace my plate would be in the middle of a big greasy hamburger!
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Old 21st Apr 2013, 11:27
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Captain Sand Dune.

Can you help.

So if I want to fly C17's I should say i want to fly fast jet when I do the officer selection board
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Old 22nd Apr 2013, 09:33
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My previous remark about deliberately failing a FJ conversion was tongue in cheek. Honesty is the best policy. Nothing wrong about wanting to fly a C17. It sees more combat than our fighters do! (dons helmet, dives into trench and awaits incoming )
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Old 22nd Apr 2013, 14:18
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Mostlysedated,

Tell them what you want to fly, and be able to justify it.

For example, 'I want to fly C17 so I can takeoff, have a coffee, watch a computer, then wait 5 hours before I get to turn the computer off and fly again'

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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 09:31
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Ohhh CSD

what a short memory you have. It was only a very recent event when the fighter fraternity were involved in air to air combat. A mere 60 to 61 years ago?


BBC

Yeah but at least its 5 hours going somewhere, doing what the aircraft is designed for and being able to take a leak beats the piddle pack
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 05:05
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hey guys, I am just after a few peoples opinion in terms of when i should start my application process.
Due to a few personal reasons over the past couple of months ive put on roughly 20kg. I am currently 102kg and my weight before was around 78-80kg. I was just wondering if i should wait until I am back down to my old weight before I apply or if it would be somewhat beneficial to start the process now so the DFR can see my commitment to my weight loss? I was originally leaning towards waiting it out but after reading through this thread it seems like proven commitment is a big thing in the eyes of the OSB, so if they can see my commitment to my health will this be seen as a good thing or as a bad thing for letting myself get into bad shape as it is.
Also another question I was involved in a quite violent armed robbery (gunpoint) which caused me to have roughly two months off work as the doctors and psychologists pumped me full of drugs and tried to see if I was developing PTSD. I am now 100% better and truly believe the experience has prepared me to how life may turn out in the ADF if I end up in a warzone. I am worried that they will just throw my application out the window because of this incident. My medical record will say I suffered from anxiety due to the incident but that only lasted for a few weeks after and I now have no problems with anxiety. Can anyone who has heard of a similar situation put my mind to rest?
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Old 29th Apr 2013, 22:53
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Joe.

Given the "Very senior RAN officer" thread you may well be in for an interesting time.

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Old 30th Apr 2013, 07:35
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My medical record will say I suffered from anxiety due to the incident but that only lasted for a few weeks after and I now have no problems with anxiety. Can anyone who has heard of a similar situation put my mind to rest?
Sounds like you're suffering from anxiety? (Tongue in cheek, mate.)
Ok, re your weight. You need to lose weight for your own health, not to impress the board and convince them that you are committed/motivated.
Unlike many of my (occasionally drunk) mates, I don't believe that Defence Force Recruiting subscribe to the philosophy of "fatties need lovin' too"...
Walk in the door the first time in the right frame of mind, and in good health, and you'll stand a better chance. Re your medical record - I'm pretty sure they only know about what you tell them - your integrity would ensure you answered their questions honestly, but I'm pretty sure they don't get your medical records.

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Old 1st May 2013, 10:43
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Thanks for the replies.
I am losing weight for myself not for the board I just don't want to be thrown in the unmotivated pile if I show up to DFR overweight. Ive started my training regime now and have since lost 3kgs so all is going well on that path.
I read earlier in this thread about getting kicked off flight school (if i make it that far) if they found out you don't fully disclose your medical history. I was just thinking of getting reports off of my doctor and psychologist stating that I no longer suffer from anxiety before I have my YOU session just to make sure.
Ive set a goal to have my YOU session before July where I am aiming for my weight to be back down to around 80kg so in the meantime I will be working my ass off in the gym and studying up on everything I have learnt from this great thread.
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Old 2nd May 2013, 01:30
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Originally Posted by joeboxhead
Thanks for the replies.
I am losing weight for myself not for the board I just don't want to be thrown in the unmotivated pile if I show up to DFR overweight. Ive started my training regime now and have since lost 3kgs so all is going well on that path.
I read earlier in this thread about getting kicked off flight school (if i make it that far) if they found out you don't fully disclose your medical history. I was just thinking of getting reports off of my doctor and psychologist stating that I no longer suffer from anxiety before I have my YOU session just to make sure.
Ive set a goal to have my YOU session before July where I am aiming for my weight to be back down to around 80kg so in the meantime I will be working my ass off in the gym and studying up on everything I have learnt from this great thread.
Hey joe,

When I had my medical interview (at assessment day) the doctor was curious about why I had submitted asthma challenge test results so early and he said it had raised a few flags/made it a case of interest and asked why I had done so... I guess they were suspicious that my pre-empting the process without being directed to meant I had something to hide. It was easily explained and it made the process faster, but it might be something to consider if you're thinking about going in day 1 with your medical certificates in hand.

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Old 6th May 2013, 04:58
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Hey Guys,

I've heard conflicting statements on the 6 minutes maths test pass mark. Does anyone know of how many you actually need to get correct? Also what are the multiple choice answers like in comparison to each other (close or within a range that you can tell after doing some working out)?

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Old 7th May 2013, 12:56
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Hello all

If any of you forum lurkers have completed the OSB only appointments that they now slot with the regular FSP groups, could you please drop me a PM.

I'm just curious as to how this affects your OSB activities. The last time I was there, it was an equal footing for all of us, since we all had a good understanding of one another's personalities and strengths, giving a good group synergy. As an OSB only candidate and joining a FSP group, I am worried that as an 'outsider' to the group, the dynamics changes quite considerably and may affect my performance.

Anyway, if any of you are interested in sharing some wisdom, please feel free to drop in a reply or a PM.

Regards
Sep

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Old 9th May 2013, 14:13
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OSB

Hello everyone, I am off to flight screening very soon, and I am feeling prepared, however I do have one main concern. I am applying for RAAF DEO pilot, and this is mainly because I am extremely passionate about flying and would not want to go to ADFA for 4 years before going to BFTS; however, I am only 17. Will this be a problem for the OSB? i.e will they frown upon this?

Thanks
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Old 13th May 2013, 05:29
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Septerra,

I'm very confident that the guys at PSA will take your concerns into account. That would make sense to me.

On the other side of the coin, remember that this will be your second experience at the OSB so you actually have an advantage over the others because you've been there before.

Make sure you make use of your previous experience. Prepare well, tell the truth and try to enjoy yourself.

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Old 18th May 2013, 01:46
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Thumbs up Great forum

G'day all,

I've just finished sifting through the last 122 pages and have found it very informative indeed.

I am currently booked in for aptitude/ psych testing in the near future and feel slightly more at ease after reading through all of the previous posts so I appreciate everyone's perspective and guidance. I especially appreciate the occasional "gems" of gouge from the in service members.

Regards.
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