US Warns UK over Cluster Bomb Treaty
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Cluster Bombs
Now for the bleedingly obvious - when are Al Queda going to play by the rules ?
Give'em everything we've got - including all politicians, that should truly rodger them if our experience is anything to go by -( except maybe Boris as he's good for a laugh )-from high altitude with pockets full of bomblets...
Give'em everything we've got - including all politicians, that should truly rodger them if our experience is anything to go by -( except maybe Boris as he's good for a laugh )-from high altitude with pockets full of bomblets...
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As far as I am aware brickhistory, all of our troops have mothers and fathers. However, I am much more sure of God's help in their quest to improve life for the Iraqis.
As far as cluster munitions go I subscribe to the Israeli opinion that they are the bad weaponeers' last desperate attempt to hit the target.
As far as cluster munitions go I subscribe to the Israeli opinion that they are the bad weaponeers' last desperate attempt to hit the target.
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soddim, you know exactly what I intended. To imply otherwise is a cheap shot.
However, to remain on point, being liable to criminal proceedings for using a legitimate weapon does seem to put British military commanders in a bind.
It would appear they (the poor bastards in my original post) have been sold out for an EU reward with few benefits in return.
However, to remain on point, being liable to criminal proceedings for using a legitimate weapon does seem to put British military commanders in a bind.
It would appear they (the poor bastards in my original post) have been sold out for an EU reward with few benefits in return.
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So, we have to go to war with one arm tied behind our back's. Does Terry the Terrorist have the same SOP's? For F***'s sake!!! We'll be air dropping them Bandaids next!!!!
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I don't see why Brit troops would face prosecution if it is US forces that use the weapon. If Brit Forces call in the mud shifters then they get what ordnance they are given, and even then the guy dropping the weapon isn't the one breaking the law, the gov't owns the bomb in the first place.
On a 2nd point. Perhaps we should make bombs out of marshmallows now just in case it hits someone on the head. While we are at it, paint it a nice colour so that it doesn't offend anyone when it is dropped and doesn't go bnag -it is also environmentally friendly and will dissolve over time, or be eaten by children. The marshmallow would be useful in absorbing the loud noise from the bnag action, thereby not waking anyone up that lives near the target.
On a 2nd point. Perhaps we should make bombs out of marshmallows now just in case it hits someone on the head. While we are at it, paint it a nice colour so that it doesn't offend anyone when it is dropped and doesn't go bnag -it is also environmentally friendly and will dissolve over time, or be eaten by children. The marshmallow would be useful in absorbing the loud noise from the bnag action, thereby not waking anyone up that lives near the target.
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and even then the guy dropping the weapon isn't the one breaking the law, the gov't owns the bomb in the first place.
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I just wonder how many international treaties the UK has signed, but the US has not. If we work in coalition there should be incredibly robust rules of engagement so that our troops get both the protection and a fair representation.
As for the comment that terrorists, sorry, extortionists and murderers, have no rules, if we had no rules to take them on, the world would be chaos. I'd rather not be lowered to their levels, thanks.
As for the comment that terrorists, sorry, extortionists and murderers, have no rules, if we had no rules to take them on, the world would be chaos. I'd rather not be lowered to their levels, thanks.
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Napalm
" Works pretty well on poppies too "
In that case can I request a strike on the weeds in our garden - might be a whole new market/role, as the sodding stuff advertised on telly' doesn't work.
If I'm advised of the ETA I'll keep the pets & maybe even girlfriend in, but at the moment I feel I'll let the nearby cowboy builders have the experience !
In that case can I request a strike on the weeds in our garden - might be a whole new market/role, as the sodding stuff advertised on telly' doesn't work.
If I'm advised of the ETA I'll keep the pets & maybe even girlfriend in, but at the moment I feel I'll let the nearby cowboy builders have the experience !
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Gordon Brown on collision course with George W Bush over Iraq cluster bombs
By Tim Shipman in Washington
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Why bother with Napalm? Fuel-Air weapons are far more effective and readily usable.
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Isn't the use of white phosporus illegal already?
I think I remember reading about US troops using rounds with WP heads (Smoke grenades I believe?) as weapons and inquiries and that sort of ****.
I think I remember reading about US troops using rounds with WP heads (Smoke grenades I believe?) as weapons and inquiries and that sort of ****.
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from an article here...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...rus-debate.htm
Yes, there was a stink about it at the time.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...rus-debate.htm
Also on Tuesday ---- after seeming to have the last word on the cover-up controversy last week when he said U.S. forces had used the chemical as a perfectly legal "incendiary weapon" against insurgents ---- Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable backtracked on that statement and denied the weapon was used to burn insurgents or civilians.
He said it was only used to drive enemy fighters out of their hiding places so they could be killed by other means.
"We do not use it as an incendiary weapon," said Venable, contradicting his earlier statements.
"But it has incendiary effects," he added.
In his rolling Texas drawl, Venable compared the use of white phosphorus in Fallujah to lawmen trapping "bad guys" in a Western film.
If the fugitives are holed up in a building and "you can't shoot 'em any other way," he said, "you set fire to the building and shoot 'em when they run out.
"That's how they (white phosphorus bombs) were used in Fallujah," Venable said.
Venable, even as he further parsed his previous statements on white phosphorus, blamed the controversy on inaccurate reporting, and mistakes made by government officials.
He said it was only used to drive enemy fighters out of their hiding places so they could be killed by other means.
"We do not use it as an incendiary weapon," said Venable, contradicting his earlier statements.
"But it has incendiary effects," he added.
In his rolling Texas drawl, Venable compared the use of white phosphorus in Fallujah to lawmen trapping "bad guys" in a Western film.
If the fugitives are holed up in a building and "you can't shoot 'em any other way," he said, "you set fire to the building and shoot 'em when they run out.
"That's how they (white phosphorus bombs) were used in Fallujah," Venable said.
Venable, even as he further parsed his previous statements on white phosphorus, blamed the controversy on inaccurate reporting, and mistakes made by government officials.
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Interesting,
In Ultimate Force on Saturday our hero used WP exactly for the purpose of incinerating a corpse to stop it being mutilated.
In Ultimate Force on Saturday our hero used WP exactly for the purpose of incinerating a corpse to stop it being mutilated.