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Flying Pay
Sorry guys, just a quick one - what is the breakdown of years served since the initial award of flying pay for mid rate and higher rate???
Thanks in advance..
Tgreen.
Thanks in advance..
Tgreen.
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Not for NCA
Its middle rate after 9 years (3 years for ex ground trades that have completed 9 years in a previous trade)
Then top rate after 18 years (ex ground trades must have completed at least 9 years in the flying role and be at or past the 18 year point).
Seems really fair to me
The rates of fling pay can be found if you Google it.
Its middle rate after 9 years (3 years for ex ground trades that have completed 9 years in a previous trade)
Then top rate after 18 years (ex ground trades must have completed at least 9 years in the flying role and be at or past the 18 year point).
Seems really fair to me
The rates of fling pay can be found if you Google it.
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If you follow this link, found as suggested using google it will tell you all about Fling pay
http://www.purdue.edu/hr/LeadingEdit...ring_Fling.htm
But quite what this has to with us in the military I fail to see..........
http://www.purdue.edu/hr/LeadingEdit...ring_Fling.htm
But quite what this has to with us in the military I fail to see..........
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More importantly - why is Pilot's enhanced rate (around £43 per day!) more than anyone elses?
Would that be because without the pilot nobody else gets to go flying?
Would that be because without the pilot nobody else gets to go flying?
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The post, or indeed pic you are in should not impact your progression to next level of fg pay.
And to those who, once again, are moaning about the existence of fg pay, or ideed aparent inequalities between NCA, pilots and Nav:
How many times do you need telling? Pilots are not required to justify their fg pay - they are only required to spend it.
As has been stated many many many many times on these boards, if you take away (or reduce) my flying pay, I leave. Simple.
The fact that MOD are trying, and failing, to convince me to stay by offering me 100 thousand of your earth pounds, suggests that they want me to stay. QED fg pay (in some form or other) is here to stay...
And to those who, once again, are moaning about the existence of fg pay, or ideed aparent inequalities between NCA, pilots and Nav:
How many times do you need telling? Pilots are not required to justify their fg pay - they are only required to spend it.
As has been stated many many many many times on these boards, if you take away (or reduce) my flying pay, I leave. Simple.
The fact that MOD are trying, and failing, to convince me to stay by offering me 100 thousand of your earth pounds, suggests that they want me to stay. QED fg pay (in some form or other) is here to stay...
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Do I take it, therefore, that YOU will do all the Air Tests ?
I remember the time I impounded an aircraft when, after it had been snagged 3 air tests running, the Engineers still hadn't rectified the aileron control jam that appeared only when airborne. Then they put jacks under the wings and lifted it off the ground and lo and behold they found it.
Do I take it, therefore, that YOU will do all the Air Tests ?
I remember the time I impounded an aircraft when, after it had been snagged 3 air tests running, the Engineers still hadn't rectified the aileron control jam that appeared only when airborne. Then they put jacks under the wings and lifted it off the ground and lo and behold they found it.
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Sorry to spoil the dream
I do believe that Flying Pay is no more
It has been subsumed in to gross pay and is taxable and pensionable when you are productive
At long last!
PS - this is a good thread for youngsters aspiring to a Service career and Service Writing - nice word - 'subsumed' - make sure your not - Ha!
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I do believe that Flying Pay is no more
It has been subsumed in to gross pay and is taxable and pensionable when you are productive
At long last!
PS - this is a good thread for youngsters aspiring to a Service career and Service Writing - nice word - 'subsumed' - make sure your not - Ha!
Love Many - Trust a Few - Always paddle your own canoe
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Autorev,
Sorry to tell you but there are a significant number of posts out there that the fine individuals who brought in JPA didn't assign a flying post marker against and so taking up one of these posts immediately drops you onto RB flying pay (and hence a mark time on your happy march to higher rates). Also, some training posts are short of this crucial marker (all ab initio fg trg...) meaning a return to trg (creamies) will screw up fg pay. Some PSFs are better than others at resolving the issue. The be all and end all is keep an eye on your own pay - haven't you heard, it's our job now!!!!
Sorry to tell you but there are a significant number of posts out there that the fine individuals who brought in JPA didn't assign a flying post marker against and so taking up one of these posts immediately drops you onto RB flying pay (and hence a mark time on your happy march to higher rates). Also, some training posts are short of this crucial marker (all ab initio fg trg...) meaning a return to trg (creamies) will screw up fg pay. Some PSFs are better than others at resolving the issue. The be all and end all is keep an eye on your own pay - haven't you heard, it's our job now!!!!
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IIRC flying pay was always taxable, but never pensionable unless PAS.
Just for the record too, I never had a problem with the bus driver getting more flying pay, seeing as the training was longer and retention more difficult. My only gripe was 75% rates whilst staying in the same places, which happily is no longer the case.
Plus, as everyone now gets a 5* tent and capped actuals making the whole system much more user friendly and administratively simple
Just for the record too, I never had a problem with the bus driver getting more flying pay, seeing as the training was longer and retention more difficult. My only gripe was 75% rates whilst staying in the same places, which happily is no longer the case.
Plus, as everyone now gets a 5* tent and capped actuals making the whole system much more user friendly and administratively simple
Hola, Moosemaster!
An ex-C130 mate told me a story of flying the Lyneham Stn Cdr on a local sortie. The ALM handed out the butty boxes - the Stn Cdr found one slice of bread missing from his sarnies, 3/4 of a pork pie, 3/4 of an anpple and 3/4 of a Mars bar. "WTF is this??!!" he demanded. "Sorry Sir", replied the ALM, "I must have given you an NCO's butty box...."
As S/L Spec Aircrew, my take home pay was considerably greater than that of a ground branch S/L of the same seniority. But my pension certainly isn't!
I did suggest to the AFPRB mob that it was Flying PAY, not Flying Allowance, and should form part of the pension. Which would perhaps retain a few more folk.
Eventually they dreamed up PA spine..... Too little, too late.
An ex-C130 mate told me a story of flying the Lyneham Stn Cdr on a local sortie. The ALM handed out the butty boxes - the Stn Cdr found one slice of bread missing from his sarnies, 3/4 of a pork pie, 3/4 of an anpple and 3/4 of a Mars bar. "WTF is this??!!" he demanded. "Sorry Sir", replied the ALM, "I must have given you an NCO's butty box...."
As S/L Spec Aircrew, my take home pay was considerably greater than that of a ground branch S/L of the same seniority. But my pension certainly isn't!
I did suggest to the AFPRB mob that it was Flying PAY, not Flying Allowance, and should form part of the pension. Which would perhaps retain a few more folk.
Eventually they dreamed up PA spine..... Too little, too late.
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Beag's,
If it's any consolation a FS NCA on PA now gets way more pension and lump sum than a ground branch S/L, and can afford to retire and never work again at age 55..........so goodness knows how much pilots on PA now get.....oooodles of dosh no doubt........maybe you jumped ship to early chap...............
If it's any consolation a FS NCA on PA now gets way more pension and lump sum than a ground branch S/L, and can afford to retire and never work again at age 55..........so goodness knows how much pilots on PA now get.....oooodles of dosh no doubt........maybe you jumped ship to early chap...............
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so goodness knows how much pilots on PA now get
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And the chance to snuff it shortly after leaving at 55.
Let's face it, the stats aren't good as far as longevity is concerned for those that do 30 odd years and then leave.
I'll take mine at 38 with the chance that I'll use my pension for longer
Let's face it, the stats aren't good as far as longevity is concerned for those that do 30 odd years and then leave.
I'll take mine at 38 with the chance that I'll use my pension for longer