Red Arrows On The Move!!
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"They may move but we haven't decided the best location for them at the moment but they will be staying in Lincolnshire, I would hope." - BBC News
Sounds like confirmation of the rumour that their Airships were asked to go on a course on decision-making but couldn't make up their minds whether to go or not ....
Jack
Sounds like confirmation of the rumour that their Airships were asked to go on a course on decision-making but couldn't make up their minds whether to go or not ....
Jack
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"They may move but we haven't decided the best location for them at the moment but they will be staying in Lincolnshire, I would hope."
Lucky the Airships don't have to choose which tie to wear to work each day unless they work in MoD Main, of course, in which case how do they manage?
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Surely that means Waddington, Cranwell or Coningsby. Cranwell is one of the busiest training bases in the country and the runway is a bit short so that rules that out. Didn't the RAF move the Reds from Marham because they were incompatible with an operational station so that rules out Cby and Waddo. Where are they going? Humberside?
but they will be staying in Lincolnshire
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The pilots in charge think Leeming IS in Lincolnshire!
Seriously though, the Reds will move to Leeming as the closest base to the heartland of nu Labour where they can be sponsored by the newly nationalised bank of Northern Rock. They can then have the name emblazoned across their aircraft to replace the cr@ppy logo that they currently have. (Will the new bank's logo change to a wonky "N"?).
I've also heard that Kevin Kegan will be the new manager.......
Seriously though, the Reds will move to Leeming as the closest base to the heartland of nu Labour where they can be sponsored by the newly nationalised bank of Northern Rock. They can then have the name emblazoned across their aircraft to replace the cr@ppy logo that they currently have. (Will the new bank's logo change to a wonky "N"?).
I've also heard that Kevin Kegan will be the new manager.......
Waddo is hardly an "operational" airfield: The only operational aircraft at Waddo is usually deployed on ops in the Middle East. As for the other two non-operational aircraft, one normally sits on the pan doing very little, and the others are usually deployed on non-operational, money-wasting exercises; assuming that the runway was dry and there was no wind for them to depart.
The main traffic at Waddo is the Cranwell lot and the occasional random noise generator from Conningsby. I think the Reds will be making waddo their home at some point as D313 will still remain and be a v quick transit for them.
The main traffic at Waddo is the Cranwell lot and the occasional random noise generator from Conningsby. I think the Reds will be making waddo their home at some point as D313 will still remain and be a v quick transit for them.
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He said the unit were a "complex operation to run" because they needed to practice three times a day when preparing for a touring season.
"What we're doing is looking at the most appropriate base for the Red Arrows."
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Come on chaps, you should know the way it works by now!!!
Every year, some bright civil serpant offers up the Reds as a cost cutting measure and we then spend the next few weeks debating it on PPrune.
Just forget it - they have nowhere else to go that is safe and has a big chunk of free airspace, like 313.
Every year, some bright civil serpant offers up the Reds as a cost cutting measure and we then spend the next few weeks debating it on PPrune.
Just forget it - they have nowhere else to go that is safe and has a big chunk of free airspace, like 313.
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May I hazard a prediction?
Reds move to Waddo for reasons above, D313 retained for practice - Reasonable enough.
Scampton (recent big spend on stuff wasn't there?) accom deemed unfit for asylum seekers* and so knocked down and re-built at MoD expense, then sold off cheap to Department for Scroungers and Spongers who house aformentioned 'disadvantaged' folk for six weeks before they get the Reds and D313 removed by some unaccountable european court because they dont like the noise and it breaches their human rights as well as offending their sense of (insert foreign thing)ness having the RAF rubbing Britishness in their faces...
I hope I'm wrong.
* edited to add: here I mean the 'asylum seekers' ie the spongers as opposed to the kind genuinely fleeing persecution who would be grateful for our offer of security and protection.
Reds move to Waddo for reasons above, D313 retained for practice - Reasonable enough.
Scampton (recent big spend on stuff wasn't there?) accom deemed unfit for asylum seekers* and so knocked down and re-built at MoD expense, then sold off cheap to Department for Scroungers and Spongers who house aformentioned 'disadvantaged' folk for six weeks before they get the Reds and D313 removed by some unaccountable european court because they dont like the noise and it breaches their human rights as well as offending their sense of (insert foreign thing)ness having the RAF rubbing Britishness in their faces...
I hope I'm wrong.
* edited to add: here I mean the 'asylum seekers' ie the spongers as opposed to the kind genuinely fleeing persecution who would be grateful for our offer of security and protection.
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witty,
I'm not sure about your logic. How would the MOD save money if it retained D313? I can't see anyone wanting to buy Scampton if it still had an active danger area over the top of it.
G Flash,
Extra fuel burn in the transit?
Reds move to Waddo for reasons above, D313 retained for practice - Reasonable enough.
G Flash,
Extra fuel burn in the transit?
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LFFC,
Fair point, although you could keep scampton for other RAF/Army use (avoiding the noise problem) and allow the aviation infrastructure to be run down (no requirement to maintain runways etc, can move ATC / ops types to fill gaps elsewhere etc. Less saving admittedly (a worthless saving IMHO given the loss of a decent base etc) but when bean counters can see savings when all we see is increased costs shifted around budgets then surely its a possible!
...and meant to also say - where else could Reds practice? Bad enough having a role demo practice once in a while at our place but no way could they realisticaly practice at another location... unless you cut corners on hours practiced etc - a bad idea all round.
Fair point, although you could keep scampton for other RAF/Army use (avoiding the noise problem) and allow the aviation infrastructure to be run down (no requirement to maintain runways etc, can move ATC / ops types to fill gaps elsewhere etc. Less saving admittedly (a worthless saving IMHO given the loss of a decent base etc) but when bean counters can see savings when all we see is increased costs shifted around budgets then surely its a possible!
...and meant to also say - where else could Reds practice? Bad enough having a role demo practice once in a while at our place but no way could they realisticaly practice at another location... unless you cut corners on hours practiced etc - a bad idea all round.
The only operational aircraft at Waddo is usually deployed on ops in the Middle East.
I know we are not military but we are operational out of Waddo! (At least 3 sorties per day on average, 365 days a year.)
