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Close air support at its finest, from the squaddie's perspective

Old 15th Jan 2008, 14:15
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The smell of bovine scatological output from LM grows ever stronger...

I assume that LM's strafing runs come complete with background music so long as he's remembered to turn his PC speakers on?
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 15:31
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Thumbs down

Simple minded clearly has no first hand knowledge and he strikes me as a particularly sad attention seeker who is just trying to wind people up.

However, am I the only one who feels his latest comments have crossed a line, especially regarding the Canadian Infantry incident?

I doubt if even the pilots responsible for this act would write such a disrespectful comment about fellow servicemen killed in such a tragic manner.

I think the best thing to do with this muppet is to just ignore his posts.
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 15:55
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I have to admit that I looked forward to his ridiculous posts and found them funny, up untill halfway through his last post.

Hopefully his PC's hard disc fill fail under the load from Flight Sim X tonight, and his Mom won't pay for another untill he promises to take his medication.
 
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He should serve as a cautionary warning as to why you should never, ever, shag your sister......
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 16:36
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Big bomb carrier......AKA A Bomber

Not a weaponeer these days but why, if loiter time and load are so important, cant we fit a big plane, a bomber say (2 BFO engines (ideally 4) nice stiff wing with hard points or maybe even an internal bomb bay...call it a Shropshire maybe or any other County for that matter bit like an updated modernised Lanc...) load it up with various guideable munitions and a good link from predator or maybe even a good TI camera or something. It could stay there for hours. Build in a galley, fridge, convenience etc oh a couple of refuel hoses and a boom in case you need a small pointy type thing to go low and do some v v CAS., Bombs away Ginger as they used to say................Hurrah for the boys of Bomber Command we're back!
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 17:46
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I wonder how many big bomber type things you could get for your buck if they were instead of the carriers? More sharp end effect and less floating airfield costs!
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 20:49
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Originally Posted by Axel-Flo
Not a weaponeer these days but why, if loiter time and load are so important, cant we fit a big plane, a bomber say (2 BFO engines (ideally 4) nice stiff wing with hard points or maybe even an internal bomb bay...call it a Shropshire maybe or any other County for that matter bit like an updated modernised Lanc...) load it up with various guideable munitions and a good link from predator or maybe even a good TI camera or something. It could stay there for hours. Build in a galley, fridge, convenience etc oh a couple of refuel hoses and a boom in case you need a small pointy type thing to go low and do some v v CAS., Bombs away Ginger as they used to say................Hurrah for the boys of Bomber Command we're back!
Axel, we did. In the 60s the Argosy bomber was equipped with 8 underwing hard points and a visual bombsight. I guess it would have had a galley. Now if we had thought to add a couple of machinbe guns as well we could have pre-dated Puff the Magic Dragon.

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Old 15th Jan 2008, 22:08
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L-M,

Your last post was disgraceful and evidence, if any were needed, that you are not a military man.
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 08:21
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Walking

Task Force Fury (1/508 PIR) of the 82nd Airborne Division spend most of their time in RC South on shank's pony: works for them...
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 09:41
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FP, thanks for that. I knew from Harry Coyle's books that one was light infantry, couldn't remember which.

M_M et al, it looks like we shall never enjoy the pearls of dew on the scatological evidence (Arch) as he has disappeared into cyber-space's deepest black hole.
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 13:12
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1/508 P I R

Oh, TFF do like to insert and extract by RW, though their support echs usually drive.....
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 21:41
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From a FAC's point of view,I am happy with the CAS we get from the RAF. All the A/C the RAF use for CAS have there good points and not so good points.I agree a gun is need on all A/C that are required to conduct CAS,I have worked with TYPHOON last year on SPTA and I was pretty impressed with the way we are FAC's were able to ''positively'' control the jet.The really impressive thing was the lead A/C called ''stores'' whilst he was upside down.We put it down to one of two reasons either he was an EX F-3 pilot so he didnt know what he was doing or (and my preferred option) he was a big timing show off.The guys on the ground that we were supporting with CAS were none the wiser anyway.

With ref to the yanks and CAS,well they are not as flexible as the RAF,it takes them ages to even get permission to come below 5 grand where a Tonka from II sqn would happily pop down to 50 ft when the need was there.Ok it was Iraq but thats when you need it. USN are very anal and will only accept a nato 9 line no matter how ''rushed'' you are,F-16 guys are tip top but do sound as if there having a heart attack and F-15E's are pretty damn good as well especially if the backseater has a sexy southern states accent(girl before you ask).Give me RAF any day,I like Tonkas because two sets of ears means you can talk quicker,two sets of eyes means you can prosecute the target quicker.

Just my two pennies worth.
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 22:02
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Did you experience Jag with HMS and IDM, and what difference did that make?
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 05:21
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Jacko let it go!
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 11:29
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Jag's gone, and irrevocably so. But that's no reason why babies should be thrown out with bathwater.

I've spoken to operators, and the combination of HMS/IDM seems to have been an extremely effective means of getting 'eyes on target' more rapidly than is possible with other (non HMS, non IDM) platforms. If so, with today's emphasis on CAS, shouldn't we be pushing for HMS on the GR4 and GR9? And even for an interim HMS on Typhoon?

It would obviously be interesting to hear a FAC's perspective.

The key to my question lay in the words IDM and HMS, and not in the word Jaguar (which is an irrelevance).

It does, however, lead me to wonder which other platforms have a similar capability, whether, for example, the USAF's Goldstrike F-16s got a helmet as well as IDM?
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Old 18th Jan 2008, 21:08
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I have used IDM with a Jag in training but not on OPS.To be honest I wouldnt have time to input all the info into IDM when I need CAS unless of course it was on a planned OP. For me its a radio to Hachett/Warhawk to bid for air then its return fire until the jet checks in. Not a fan of IDM and most of my FAC mates that have used are not too keen either.
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Old 18th Jan 2008, 23:01
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Oh just grow up Jacko. Its gone and your not getting it back.
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 10:14
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Jackonicko made his very good point clear at Srl 77. He also recived a very interesting answer that we wouldn't otherwise have seen.
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 20:58
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Thanks R, interesting answer.

Foghorn. Watch out for the chickenhawk, you sound as big, loud and dumb as your namesake.
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 21:22
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Jacko,

I'm sure looking out for that pesky chickenhawk. Your right though, I am big, loud and maybe a little bit dumb, but at least I have first hand experience of CAS.
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