Thanks Movers...not!

[Saint Evil]

Blakey - I appreciate what you say about my personal admin, however, I was into PSF the day after my son was born to hand in the letter from TPMH and other paperwork as I knew this sort of faff was inbound. I had been told that it would take a couple of weeks for the birth certificate to come because it had to be typed out at Akrotiri and then be sent on for authentication etc. Once the birth certificate had been produced we could drive to Nicosia and get the passport. It took 6 weeks to get the birth certificate done because the typist was off sick and no-one had bothered to get a standin. When I offered to type it for PSF after the 4th week of trying to find out what was happening and explaining why I needed this document typing(leaving the country etc) did Aki PSF pull their finger out and sort it(still took another couple of weeks).

At that point I ensured that Customs were aware of the situation and that the necessary steps had been taken. Safe in the knowledge that I had covered the bases I relaxed to enjoy my last few days in the sun - silly me.

Echo 5 - did you see mythbusters do the aircraft crash seats demo - quite good, but they concluded that forward facing in the brace position was the best.

TMK1 - I have read the CAA doc and FAA doc and you are quite correct FAA doc para 10b does state that a child under 2 can be held during take off, landing and ground movement - but no mention of turbulence(?). The CAA doc states that para 2 (iv) that children under the age of 6 months should be secured by a supplementary loop device - that must be my arm then.

as for the final part - during the incident I was the model of restraint. Even the Midwife who delivered my son said that we were pretty calm. I had no wish to complain to other aircrew, but felt on this occasion I had to, and I suspect if you had come back to speak to me, with your attitude I would have got off before you offered the invite.

[November4]

friction restrains - job done!!

Only works with aircrew bags

[TMK1]

Saint Evil -Touché - attitude based on your organ grinder, monkey comment.

The CAA and FAA have different policies - CAA you would get a lap belt extender. FAA you dont. The only reason I got looked this up was that when I asked for a belt extender on an FAA regulated airline and was told that they did not carry them and to hold the infant. I now always buy a seat for junior and use the airlines CRS or our own approved car seat. Same rules apply for turbulance.

[Blakey875]

Evil - Ok I understand. Only asked 'cos when my son was born in TPMH a few years ago Birth Cert was produced by Admin AHQ Episkopi within days and then HC Nicosia also produced goods pretty fast! Result of more cuts I presume? You also notice that the sarcasm in here now is generated by the Loadies in here and not the Movers?
Pratt - Are you working for the Taliban? No wonder there is no flexibility!

[Echo 5]

samuraiprat,

What has all this sh!te

Tie-down restraint is the most common form of load restraint and involves the use of lashings.
The load is prevented from moving by friction between the load and the vehicle. The friction force prevents the load moving forward, rearward and sideways. The lashings are tensioned to clamp the load to the vehicle and to prevent the load from moving upwards.
The friction force comes from both the weight of the load and the clamping force of the lashings. When the surfaces are slippery, the friction forces can be very low.
Lashings that clamp the load onto the vehicle are called ‘tie-down lashings’

got to do with a seven week old sprog ?

Saint Evil,

Echo 5 - did you see mythbusters do the aircraft crash seats demo - quite good, but they concluded that forward facing in the brace position was the best.

Should one assume then that the RAF have been getting it wrong for several decades by facing the seats in the wrong direction. Oh, sorry I haven't seen the demo.

[Saint Evil]

Myhtbusters

Echo 5 - honestly I don't know. It was just a good programme and when they strapped the mythbusters team into the simulated cabin and then dropped it at an angle from(albeit not very much height) it was good tv on a slow shift day.

[fastener]

Whoa!! I can't belive that getting from A to B could be made so difficult. Airlines do it everyday. Even those F%^&wits at R%an air manage to get a few punters around europe every day!!!! As for W & B on a Trans Atlantic route the a/c will burn the same weight in fuel as a pax + kit on the way to the runway. I have worked at AA and BA and we would "normally" accept late pax provided they had an entertaining excuse. Sorry but I don't get it. Being found guilty of Jobsworthsism should be punishable by Bugg%%ing with a Ragmans trumpet. We could start with the security guys/gals at MAN/LGW/LHR. I'm sure ITV would run a programme on it. We could run a thread for the programme title here.

[Mr C Hinecap]

fastener - I have no idea where you have come in from, but you are some sort of genius in the AT world. I cannot believe that you have not appeared to me in a vision before, dispensing divine guidance and wise words, so that I may go forth and solve all the RAF AT problems. It is actually rather complex and exacerbated by tired aircraft, flying to grotty places, overstretch, cuts, cuts, did I mention doing more with less and a myriad of other stuff. The Movs world doesn't actually get off on being shouted at by grumpy PAX you know.

[Seldomfitforpurpose]

"The Movs world doesn't actually get off on being shouted at by grumpy PAX you know."

Mr C,

I seem to remeber from a recent thread that :-

"The Movs world actually get's off at shouting at the grumpy PAX you know." .............or words to that effect, which would seem to add some credence to the original thoughts on this thread