Intercepting Wandering Bears & Blackjacks Again (Merged)
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An RAF Leuchars Tornado F3 escorting a Russian Bear Foxtrot plane
over the Atlantic Ocean, near the coast of Scotland. The jets had to
be scrambled when the Russian aircraft were detected observing a
British naval excercise. RAF/MoD/PA Wire.
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Just to add something....... the 'Jet' in question, (Daily Mail, Later Version) has been pictorially modified, quite right in my view. It has had the Serial and Sqn markings removed. But, that is all. Despite the quotes from earlier posters, it is a recent picture, taken with proper wpns.
If you don't know what I mean, then it doesn't matter. But it is all 'open source', and has been for years.
I am quite suprised, that some of the better 'Spotters', haven't made a connection yet...... ho hum, I guess the trees hide the forrest eh?
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If you don't know what I mean, then it doesn't matter. But it is all 'open source', and has been for years.
I am quite suprised, that some of the better 'Spotters', haven't made a connection yet...... ho hum, I guess the trees hide the forrest eh?
Advo
*Pedantic mode ON*
Actually the serial number is still there, albeit in the sooty crap that gets thrown up by the buckets. And it didn't have any Sqn markings when I took it to Malaysia last year - I remember the jet quite well as it dumped me in Sri Lanka twice with DECU problems
*Pedantic mode OFF*
Edit - and the jet/weapons I was referring to is the 43 Sqn liveried jet just down the page on the Mails site - carrying 'Flash and 'Winders
Actually the serial number is still there, albeit in the sooty crap that gets thrown up by the buckets. And it didn't have any Sqn markings when I took it to Malaysia last year - I remember the jet quite well as it dumped me in Sri Lanka twice with DECU problems
*Pedantic mode OFF*
Edit - and the jet/weapons I was referring to is the 43 Sqn liveried jet just down the page on the Mails site - carrying 'Flash and 'Winders
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Is that a wah?
The F3 has a few panels that wouldn't look right devoid of paint or in other words, 'neath that lick of paint is a right mix of materials.
The F3 has a few panels that wouldn't look right devoid of paint or in other words, 'neath that lick of paint is a right mix of materials.
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Er actually you may remember that Air Defence of the Homeland was originally a Naval responsibility.
But everyone seems to forget that perhaps the RAF's most important task, even now, is the air defence of the homeland, which is an activity that the . . . Navy could only ever do on a tiny scale . . .
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Er actually you may remember that Air Defence of the Homeland was originally a Naval responsibility.
The RN are at their best in water, the Army are at their best on the ground and the RAF are at their best in the air.
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A Sqn Ldr is quoted here as saying he can't remember the last time...
and this 
Stacks
The RN are at their best in water, the Army are at their best on the ground and the RAF are at their best in the air
Seems a bit a variance with the old stickers which read "Fly Navy", "Sail Army", and "Eat Crab"!
Only kidding .....
Jack
PS (for Zoom) Nice try on "more superior", but any of the 4* masters I had would definitely have substituted "absorbed" for "subsumed" in the case at issue
Seems a bit a variance with the old stickers which read "Fly Navy", "Sail Army", and "Eat Crab"!
Only kidding .....
Jack
PS (for Zoom) Nice try on "more superior", but any of the 4* masters I had would definitely have substituted "absorbed" for "subsumed" in the case at issue
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Bear hunting
All this Hoo Hah about what used to be almost daily - or at least weekly routine, and the inability of the media to match pictures to stories reminds me of an incident from the days of yore.
In the late 60s, the Fleet (yes we still had one then as opposed to our current Flotilla) were engaged in a major exercise - "Silver Tower" as I recall. When the Bears kindly provided the daily intruder they were intercepted by organic air from the Carrier (An F4, not a plastic Jump Jet thingy!).
The Navy PRO at a certain HQ close to Watford was delighted. What a coup for Navy vs RAF rivalry! However, no photos of the intercept were available so he "Photo shopped" one by cutting a picture of a Navy F4 out of Janes and sticking it onto an old pic of a Bear. Computers in those days filled a room!
The composite pic was duly printed in the press and the stick on F4 was immediately spotted by the RAF PRO who contacted the press to point out the skullduggery of the RN. RN PRO then had to admit to releasing doctored photos to the press and issue apology.
Cause of great leg pulling of Dark Blue by Light Blue at Joint HQ and another point in the RAF's favour!
Let's hope the Ruskies are struggling as hard as we are with cuts and funding.
If not, and they start making regular visits to the UK ADR again we may be pushed to find a servicable Jet to meet them. Do we still have a tanker available for Q or the ability to escort an intruder for a couple of hours?
In the late 60s, the Fleet (yes we still had one then as opposed to our current Flotilla) were engaged in a major exercise - "Silver Tower" as I recall. When the Bears kindly provided the daily intruder they were intercepted by organic air from the Carrier (An F4, not a plastic Jump Jet thingy!).
The Navy PRO at a certain HQ close to Watford was delighted. What a coup for Navy vs RAF rivalry! However, no photos of the intercept were available so he "Photo shopped" one by cutting a picture of a Navy F4 out of Janes and sticking it onto an old pic of a Bear. Computers in those days filled a room!
The composite pic was duly printed in the press and the stick on F4 was immediately spotted by the RAF PRO who contacted the press to point out the skullduggery of the RN. RN PRO then had to admit to releasing doctored photos to the press and issue apology.
Cause of great leg pulling of Dark Blue by Light Blue at Joint HQ and another point in the RAF's favour!
Let's hope the Ruskies are struggling as hard as we are with cuts and funding.
If not, and they start making regular visits to the UK ADR again we may be pushed to find a servicable Jet to meet them. Do we still have a tanker available for Q or the ability to escort an intruder for a couple of hours?
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Good thing we brought all those Typhoons eh?
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Devil's Advocate wrote:
'Just to add something....... the 'Jet' in question, (Daily Mail, Later Version) has been pictorially modified, quite right in my view. It has had the Serial and Sqn markings removed. But, that is all. Despite the quotes from earlier posters, it is a recent picture, taken with proper wpns.'
I know Frodo's already pointed out that the F-3's pic has not been tampered with, but why would anyone want to airbrush it in the first place? Is it in case the Russians might see it? I dare say they took some photos of their own.
And when they did take a picture, I bet they used a camera, rather than 'proper weapons'
BM
'Just to add something....... the 'Jet' in question, (Daily Mail, Later Version) has been pictorially modified, quite right in my view. It has had the Serial and Sqn markings removed. But, that is all. Despite the quotes from earlier posters, it is a recent picture, taken with proper wpns.'
I know Frodo's already pointed out that the F-3's pic has not been tampered with, but why would anyone want to airbrush it in the first place? Is it in case the Russians might see it? I dare say they took some photos of their own.
And when they did take a picture, I bet they used a camera, rather than 'proper weapons'
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