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Old 9th Apr 2007, 16:45
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Anyone currently at MPA?

Am in need of some info... is there anyone out there in cyberspace currently at or going to MPA who could answer a few questions for me.... I am not a journo or anyone wanting to compromise your persec.

Please pm me
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 17:30
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If it doesn't have any bearing on security ask the question on open forum, there are a lot of people at and recently returned from MPA who would be happy to respond...
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Yes, Lott 22 is closed for good.
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Wot, No Lot 22?

Many a night I can't remember in there!
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 18:35
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About bŁoody time it was!

Hopefully the absurd 'Goose' has also been closed?

How about the 'Queen Vic'?
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Goose Absurd? Clearly a post designed to provoke emotion. Outrageous suggestion Any way it's not a bar it's a lounge for 1435 aircrew and "selected" guests. Yes the selection process does usually involve how lumpy your jumper is.
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Nothing new there then!!
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At least it kept the fag-charioteers out of the Mess!

Do they still do that childish carpet thing at Happy Hour? The Wokka mates ripped the cr@p out of that when they let off an MS26 in the pub and invited everyone in - except the fag-charioteers who stood and sulked on their tatty piece of mat....
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How about the 'Queen Vic'?
Also sadly now closed for good.
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 19:30
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Jeez BEagle - they either seriously upset you at some point or you have the biggest chip on your shoulder ever!!

Got a good story about it?
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Beag as a complete failure on any fast jet has the biggest chip on his shoulder when it comes to those who have succeeded!

You never know who's on this site!
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 21:25
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Air Defender: I offer a suggested amendment

del: 1435 aircrew
insert: 1435 officers
..... well it most certainly was in my time there!
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Beags as a complete failure on any fast jet has the biggest chip on his shoulder when it comes to those who have succeeded!
I always thought that Beags had a bit of mud-moving F4 time before growing old, bitter and twisted on the Vicky? RDB do you have more info???

Now, now, Beags
At least it kept the fag-charioteers out of the Mess!
, did you enjoy boozing with all the blokes in the Mess whilst we "took" all the laydeez upstairs for a good time in the Goose away from your scintillating company?

Anyway, I'm sure I saw you in the Goose a few times during my many visits da'n sarf?

I used to love that old carpet - pity I missed the MS26 gag (surely an MS10 for wokka mates?); I'm always up for a bit of escalatory banter!!!

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Old 9th Apr 2007, 23:20
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My my BEags,

I'm awfully surprised at your comments there!!

What's the matter? Did you not enjoy the pole dancing? Was it the enormous projector screen that put you off? Or was it simply the ladies that we stole from Timmy's that made you so bitter towards the fabulous Goose?
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 06:32
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Yes, it was an MS10, now I come to think of it. Prank organised by JJ. The window was thrown open, in came the dinghy. A loud hissing noise and there was the wokka mates' answer to the fag-charioteers tatty old mat....

Make personal attacks all you like (not permitted by the rules of PPRuNe, you might note), I have never made any secret of the fact that after I did a 'pre-Vulcan Buccaneer' course, then flew the tin triangle, I crossed back over to the FJ world,but was only Op on the F4 for about 18 months before returning to multis on the VC10K.

I was discussing the Goose, not my personal time in the RAF. But sticks and stones....

Anyway, back to the Goose. During my last stint at MPA, we had to have a crack down on illegal drinking dens after a fire in one of them. At the weekly meeting of FIAW, it was stated that the problem was getting out of hand. Yet the very next night (or maybe a couple later) the OM wing was evacuated in the freezing cold because of smoke seen billowing out of the Goose as they partied until oh-dark-hundred on a Friday night - despite the fact that Saturday is supposed to be a working day at MPA. The Wg Cdr was not too pleased, to say the least, and declared that the Goose would be shut if things didn't settle down.

Then it was discoverd that the smoke alarm had been 'modified'; the smoke the police patrol had seen was only fag smoke, but could have been something more deadly. Anyone who has been to MPA should know that fire is one of the biggest threats to the place, particularly in the Death Star wings.

After another evacuation a couple of weeks later, I asked why on earth the Goose was tolerated, yet we were cracking down on anyone else who ran such a 'lounge'.... One rule for the officer aircrew and one for the rest? There was no real answer to that.

It was also necessary to close the short RW as an MT route after FOD patrols found bits of a 'recreational' MT vehicle on the RW - someone hadn't done the FOD check (it was dark - ATC won't notice...the girls are thirsty...) and had then driven to the 'Queen Vic'.... The squeals of complaint about the inconvenience such a Flight Safety measure brought to those invited to the Vic were many and loud. It seems that many people seemed to advocate behaviour which would never be tolerated on a UK base - and life at MPA was far from being particularly hard. Although it was, and probably still is, heavily fuelled by alcohol. It's been that way since MPA first opened.

I understand that Mrs Doubtfire closed most of the ISO-container drinking dens?

I'm sure that 1435 had a reason to have their own mess within a mess, but it did seem surprising that it was tolerated. And as for pole-dancing in an Officers' Mess by people-formerly-known-as-WRAFs in front of drunken aircrew - I'm sure The Sun would have loved that one.
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 08:26
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Beags,

The Sun has already highlighted the drunken antics back in 2002:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002501128,00.html
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 08:55
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Glad to see that the work hard, play hard military ethos is alive and well.

Time for a Horlicks and an early night, maybe?
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 09:41
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The Sun

The Sun has already run a story on MPA antics in 2002.
It was written by John Kay after an RAF Officer sent them a dossier.
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 09:47
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You forgot to say "..bitter and twisted RAF officer who got less "actual" than the Chinny crew"
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 10:04
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That'll be this article:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002501127,00.html

about this 'dossier':
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002501128,00.html

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