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Having lived in Abingdon for 27 yrs and witnessed the previous At home Days and BofB days, this flop was fully predicted. I have been ranting on for weeks to however would listen about the total lack of promotion for the event in the local area. The only way the Abingdon community knew about this event was when the standard yellow AA signs appeared last Monday giving directions and little else. There has been no posters, radio publicity or flyers. Those that were fortunate to find any information were then horrified at the entrance price. This is hardly Fairford! If Abingdon can not muster up a fly-through appearance of a C-17, Tristar & VC10, based just 18 miles away, surely it proves how low key this event has been treated by the boys up top. With 2 major conflicts taking up the majority of the transport fleets flying hours, a skeleton shift left behind at Benson and Odiham, its obvious all your going to get is trng jets or a Typhoon. I feel sorry for those that have tried to make this a memorable event and the time they have commited, but if I feel this way, how do we expect a BMW plant worker, Tesco check-out operative or a Mays carpet fitter to feel.
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I scored a couple of free tickets from work so went along with a colleague to see if it was any good. Within about half an hour of being there I was bored silly and wanted to go home. If this is what’s suppose to encourage more youngsters to join the RAF then we really are in a sorry state.
Almost all the servicemen and women I seen looked like they couldn’t wait for five o’clock to come. The live show was terrible, I’ve never seen such a cheesy video! Fair play to the guys that took part in the TAC demo, at times it was very good but having to run along with the video, it seemed to be drawn out and began to get very tedious. The E3 and two F3’s seemed to spend the first 20 minutes capping at about 3000’ not really doing anything and certainly not drawing the attention of the crowd.
I’d love to see how much the RAF paid the civvy cowboys, sorry, Jervis Media. I'd be a pretty pee'd off bunny if I had paid £25 a ticket plus £5 for car parking plus £3.60 booking fee and a £4.80 transaction fee!
What a flop!
And the Jervis Entertainment Media guarantee...
Hmmmm 
Almost all the servicemen and women I seen looked like they couldn’t wait for five o’clock to come. The live show was terrible, I’ve never seen such a cheesy video! Fair play to the guys that took part in the TAC demo, at times it was very good but having to run along with the video, it seemed to be drawn out and began to get very tedious. The E3 and two F3’s seemed to spend the first 20 minutes capping at about 3000’ not really doing anything and certainly not drawing the attention of the crowd.
I’d love to see how much the RAF paid the civvy cowboys, sorry, Jervis Media. I'd be a pretty pee'd off bunny if I had paid £25 a ticket plus £5 for car parking plus £3.60 booking fee and a £4.80 transaction fee!
What a flop!
And the Jervis Entertainment Media guarantee...
Being at the forefront of the industry, we at JERVIS ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA LTD. are confident that you will be delighted with the service we provide. No matter what your media requirements, our personalised, bespoke service will give you the opportunity to fulfil your vision to the highest level.
What "Spit the Dog" might not appreciate is the difficulty of conjuring up a C17, Tristar or VC10.
Just adding a few extra tons of gas to the return trip to the UK for a timed flypast, just might mean that not everyone can get a seat home. How happy (or legal) do you think that the soldiers on board might feel about making their loved ones at Brize wait for another hour whilst they participate in an airshow?
Whilst your idea sounds simple, in reality every little change has far reaching consequences, legalities and difficulties. Such is the reality of the modern military force.
Just adding a few extra tons of gas to the return trip to the UK for a timed flypast, just might mean that not everyone can get a seat home. How happy (or legal) do you think that the soldiers on board might feel about making their loved ones at Brize wait for another hour whilst they participate in an airshow?
Whilst your idea sounds simple, in reality every little change has far reaching consequences, legalities and difficulties. Such is the reality of the modern military force.
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It is my understanding that the RAF paid nothing. The risk is/was on JEM, but I wonder if the Kinross show will go ahead or whether they will pull the plug now
Bring back At Home Days!!!
It is my understanding that the RAF paid nothing. The risk is/was on JEM, but I wonder if the Kinross show will go ahead or whether they will pull the plug now
Bring back At Home Days!!!
Had a look at the UK Airshow forum to see how it went down with the paying public.
"The only airshow where the loos outnumbered the punters" seems to be the most favourable observation...
"The only airshow where the loos outnumbered the punters" seems to be the most favourable observation...
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Just a few observations on a complete shambles.
I went today, and paid to get in. By the time I'd paid my parking fee and driven over the grass several miles, I was wondering if I was in the right place. The complete lack of a crowd was noticeable. I paid the disinterested and obviously bored staff, and was confronted, at 11 o'clock in the morning, by people leaving and one group demanding their money back. Apparently Toady Jervis had published a map via the Herald local newspaper website with with Dr Who, Star Trek and other TV show stands on it, and some fans were disappointed not to see ANY of the stands there. Lie number 1.
I ran into an old air show freind of many years expereince and we compared notes on the crowd, 9 rows of 52 cars (yes, we counted!) makes for 1,872 people at 4 people per car. The RAF estimated 50,000 a day on its website after the Horseguards launch of the SOA, and JEM estimated 25,000 per day. Staff were then overheard telling people at least 8,000 people had been there today. Lie number 2.
The spectacular car action consited of 6 European NASCARs of dubious quality being driven up and down and doing the odd cowboy donut. Ho hum, deadly dull, except for the all-body RAF and Typhoon logo wearing Ford Fiesta, which was a gem of pathetic marketing and embarrasing "yoof" culture.
Jervis is quoted on his website as claiming that this would also be a shopping specacular. This consisted of the RAF clothing collection, the Red Arrows ground crew stand, and the Red Arrows Marketing Company stand. Lots of choice then, and lie number 3.
Conversations by my colleague with staff at the show revealed and interesting fact. The movie that was to save the day and be the centrepiece of the show was delivered late by JEM. This was also one of the reasons that the original show in August 06 was cancelled, it had not been finished. Despite the limited and hard to find pre-event press talking about an hour or 90 minute hollywood-style blockbuster film, the actual film delivered by JEM was under half an hour, and consisted mostly of Andy Turner and Terry Jervis in newsroom-style interviews. Terry Jervis may be many things, but a screen presenter he is not. Andy Turner may now hold a record for ums and ers in a pre-recorded video. Deadly dull, but a good high profile for the two gentlemen involved. In order to pad the film out, DDefPub staff spent Wednesday of last week in the Old War Office Building, splicing pieces of old RAF information films into the so called blockbuster movie, giving it about a 55 minute length. These splices had no relevant soundtrack, so on the day, the commentator had to improvise voiceovers, which sounded terrible in conjunction with the set soundtrack in the rest of the movie. There wan no interactivity at all, despite everyone concerned stressing this was a vital feature of the film. You sat and watched, and were deeply confused, then laughing out loud at the pitiful acting and appaling boys-own storyline. No aliens were involved, despite the JEM site pronouncements, and no interactivity becomes lie number 4.
The flying was pedestrian in nature and so far away as to be un-photographable. The much vaunted dogfight was two F3s, each following a Hawk in lazy circles at about 2,000 feet. The pyrotechnics set off in time to the RAF Regiment mortars and GR4 flypasts at least made my son jump, but thats all. Many of the aircraft in the published programme were simply not there.
I could go on, but the list of things that were promised but were not there, and the list of blatant mis-information about this show and its content would fill a small book.
Andy Turner should be made to show his accounts on this fiasco. Terry Jervis has proved himself an incapable shyster of the worst stripe. I would like to know why the RAF still has him contracted after his failure to produce this show last year, two magazine projects, a clothing range of any quality and most crucialy, a movie of acceptable length and quality to base a £25 a head show on. He should be asked to return the funds paid to him and be removed from his contract for so many clear breaches. I doubt this will happen, largely because of Jervis's colour, no one wants the racist slur cast at them do they?
My final comment must be a reply to the Turner/Jervis statement about the ticket price. Yes, it does cost more for a ticket to Twickenham, but the international rugby organisers don't lie to me about what I will see, and I get a solid 90 minutes and a half time entertainment. You failed to provide even that. And further, rugby doesn't iron its teething and technology problems out in front of a paying audience. You two should be ashamed, you have made the RAF a laughing stock.
For tomorrow, the only three simulator rides have left for the free airshow at Southend (estimated audience in excess of 500,000) and it is unlikely any flying will take place int eh forecast 400 ft cloudbase.
Sorry to go on at length, but I think these facts should be made public, Turner and Jervis censured, and both of them stopped from organising anything else that costs the RAF money and reputation.
I ran into an old air show freind of many years expereince and we compared notes on the crowd, 9 rows of 52 cars (yes, we counted!) makes for 1,872 people at 4 people per car. The RAF estimated 50,000 a day on its website after the Horseguards launch of the SOA, and JEM estimated 25,000 per day. Staff were then overheard telling people at least 8,000 people had been there today. Lie number 2.
The spectacular car action consited of 6 European NASCARs of dubious quality being driven up and down and doing the odd cowboy donut. Ho hum, deadly dull, except for the all-body RAF and Typhoon logo wearing Ford Fiesta, which was a gem of pathetic marketing and embarrasing "yoof" culture.
Jervis is quoted on his website as claiming that this would also be a shopping specacular. This consisted of the RAF clothing collection, the Red Arrows ground crew stand, and the Red Arrows Marketing Company stand. Lots of choice then, and lie number 3.
Conversations by my colleague with staff at the show revealed and interesting fact. The movie that was to save the day and be the centrepiece of the show was delivered late by JEM. This was also one of the reasons that the original show in August 06 was cancelled, it had not been finished. Despite the limited and hard to find pre-event press talking about an hour or 90 minute hollywood-style blockbuster film, the actual film delivered by JEM was under half an hour, and consisted mostly of Andy Turner and Terry Jervis in newsroom-style interviews. Terry Jervis may be many things, but a screen presenter he is not. Andy Turner may now hold a record for ums and ers in a pre-recorded video. Deadly dull, but a good high profile for the two gentlemen involved. In order to pad the film out, DDefPub staff spent Wednesday of last week in the Old War Office Building, splicing pieces of old RAF information films into the so called blockbuster movie, giving it about a 55 minute length. These splices had no relevant soundtrack, so on the day, the commentator had to improvise voiceovers, which sounded terrible in conjunction with the set soundtrack in the rest of the movie. There wan no interactivity at all, despite everyone concerned stressing this was a vital feature of the film. You sat and watched, and were deeply confused, then laughing out loud at the pitiful acting and appaling boys-own storyline. No aliens were involved, despite the JEM site pronouncements, and no interactivity becomes lie number 4.
The flying was pedestrian in nature and so far away as to be un-photographable. The much vaunted dogfight was two F3s, each following a Hawk in lazy circles at about 2,000 feet. The pyrotechnics set off in time to the RAF Regiment mortars and GR4 flypasts at least made my son jump, but thats all. Many of the aircraft in the published programme were simply not there.
I could go on, but the list of things that were promised but were not there, and the list of blatant mis-information about this show and its content would fill a small book.
Andy Turner should be made to show his accounts on this fiasco. Terry Jervis has proved himself an incapable shyster of the worst stripe. I would like to know why the RAF still has him contracted after his failure to produce this show last year, two magazine projects, a clothing range of any quality and most crucialy, a movie of acceptable length and quality to base a £25 a head show on. He should be asked to return the funds paid to him and be removed from his contract for so many clear breaches. I doubt this will happen, largely because of Jervis's colour, no one wants the racist slur cast at them do they?
My final comment must be a reply to the Turner/Jervis statement about the ticket price. Yes, it does cost more for a ticket to Twickenham, but the international rugby organisers don't lie to me about what I will see, and I get a solid 90 minutes and a half time entertainment. You failed to provide even that. And further, rugby doesn't iron its teething and technology problems out in front of a paying audience. You two should be ashamed, you have made the RAF a laughing stock.
For tomorrow, the only three simulator rides have left for the free airshow at Southend (estimated audience in excess of 500,000) and it is unlikely any flying will take place int eh forecast 400 ft cloudbase.
Sorry to go on at length, but I think these facts should be made public, Turner and Jervis censured, and both of them stopped from organising anything else that costs the RAF money and reputation.
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Just a few observations on a complete shambles.
I went today, and paid to get in. By the time I'd paid my parking fee and driven over the grass several miles, I was wondering if I was in the right place. The complete lack of a crowd was noticeable. I paid the disinterested and obviously bored staff, and was confronted, at 11 o'clock in the morning, by people leaving and one group demanding their money back. Apparently Toady Jervis had published a map via the Herald local newspaper website with with Dr Who, Star Trek and other TV show stands on it, and some fans were disappointed not to see ANY of the stands there. Lie number 1.
I ran into an old air show freind of many years expereince and we compared notes on the crowd, 9 rows of 52 cars (yes, we counted!) makes for 1,872 people at 4 people per car. The RAF estimated 50,000 a day on its website after the Horseguards launch of the SOA, and JEM estimated 25,000 per day. Staff were then overheard telling people at least 8,000 people had been there today. Lie number 2.
The spectacular car action consited of 6 European NASCARs of dubious quality being driven up and down and doing the odd cowboy donut. Ho hum, deadly dull, except for the all-body RAF and Typhoon logo wearing Ford Fiesta, which was a gem of pathetic marketing and embarrasing "yoof" culture.
Jervis is quoted on his website as claiming that this would also be a shopping specacular. This consisted of the RAF clothing collection, the Red Arrows ground crew stand, and the Red Arrows Marketing Company stand. Lots of choice then, and lie number 3.
Conversations by my colleague with staff at the show revealed and interesting fact. The movie that was to save the day and be the centrepiece of the show was delivered late by JEM. This was also one of the reasons that the original show in August 06 was cancelled, it had not been finished. Despite the limited and hard to find pre-event press talking about an hour or 90 minute hollywood-style blockbuster film, the actual film delivered by JEM was under half an hour, and consisted mostly of Andy Turner and Terry Jervis in newsroom-style interviews. Terry Jervis may be many things, but a screen presenter he is not. Andy Turner may now hold a record for ums and ers in a pre-recorded video. Deadly dull, but a good high profile for the two gentlemen involved. In order to pad the film out, DDefPub staff spent Wednesday of last week in the Old War Office Building, splicing pieces of old RAF information films into the so called blockbuster movie, giving it about a 55 minute length. These splices had no relevant soundtrack, so on the day, the commentator had to improvise voiceovers, which sounded terrible in conjunction with the set soundtrack in the rest of the movie. There wan no interactivity at all, despite everyone concerned stressing this was a vital feature of the film. You sat and watched, and were deeply confused, then laughing out loud at the pitiful acting and appaling boys-own storyline. No aliens were involved, despite the JEM site pronouncements, and no interactivity becomes lie number 4.
The flying was pedestrian in nature and so far away as to be un-photographable. The much vaunted dogfight was two F3s, each following a Hawk in lazy circles at about 2,000 feet. The pyrotechnics set off in time to the RAF Regiment mortars and GR4 flypasts at least made my son jump, but thats all. Many of the aircraft in the published programme were simply not there.
I could go on, but the list of things that were promised but were not there, and the list of blatant mis-information about this show and its content would fill a small book.
Andy Turner should be made to show his accounts on this fiasco. Terry Jervis has proved himself an incapable shyster of the worst stripe. I would like to know why the RAF still has him contracted after his failure to produce this show last year, two magazine projects, a clothing range of any quality and most crucialy, a movie of acceptable length and quality to base a £25 a head show on. He should be asked to return the funds paid to him and be removed from his contract for so many clear breaches. I doubt this will happen, largely because of Jervis's colour, no one wants the racist slur cast at them do they?
My final comment must be a reply to the Turner/Jervis statement about the ticket price. Yes, it does cost more for a ticket to Twickenham, but the international rugby organisers don't lie to me about what I will see, and I get a solid 90 minutes and a half time entertainment. You failed to provide even that. And further, rugby doesn't iron its teething and technology problems out in front of a paying audience. You two should be ashamed, you have made the RAF a laughing stock.
For tomorrow, the only three simulator rides have left for the free airshow at Southend (estimated audience in excess of 500,000) and it is unlikely any flying will take place int eh forecast 400 ft cloudbase.
Sorry to go on at length, but I think these facts should be made public, Turner and Jervis censured, and both of them stopped from organising anything else that costs the RAF money and reputation.
I ran into an old air show freind of many years expereince and we compared notes on the crowd, 9 rows of 52 cars (yes, we counted!) makes for 1,872 people at 4 people per car. The RAF estimated 50,000 a day on its website after the Horseguards launch of the SOA, and JEM estimated 25,000 per day. Staff were then overheard telling people at least 8,000 people had been there today. Lie number 2.
The spectacular car action consited of 6 European NASCARs of dubious quality being driven up and down and doing the odd cowboy donut. Ho hum, deadly dull, except for the all-body RAF and Typhoon logo wearing Ford Fiesta, which was a gem of pathetic marketing and embarrasing "yoof" culture.
Jervis is quoted on his website as claiming that this would also be a shopping specacular. This consisted of the RAF clothing collection, the Red Arrows ground crew stand, and the Red Arrows Marketing Company stand. Lots of choice then, and lie number 3.
Conversations by my colleague with staff at the show revealed and interesting fact. The movie that was to save the day and be the centrepiece of the show was delivered late by JEM. This was also one of the reasons that the original show in August 06 was cancelled, it had not been finished. Despite the limited and hard to find pre-event press talking about an hour or 90 minute hollywood-style blockbuster film, the actual film delivered by JEM was under half an hour, and consisted mostly of Andy Turner and Terry Jervis in newsroom-style interviews. Terry Jervis may be many things, but a screen presenter he is not. Andy Turner may now hold a record for ums and ers in a pre-recorded video. Deadly dull, but a good high profile for the two gentlemen involved. In order to pad the film out, DDefPub staff spent Wednesday of last week in the Old War Office Building, splicing pieces of old RAF information films into the so called blockbuster movie, giving it about a 55 minute length. These splices had no relevant soundtrack, so on the day, the commentator had to improvise voiceovers, which sounded terrible in conjunction with the set soundtrack in the rest of the movie. There wan no interactivity at all, despite everyone concerned stressing this was a vital feature of the film. You sat and watched, and were deeply confused, then laughing out loud at the pitiful acting and appaling boys-own storyline. No aliens were involved, despite the JEM site pronouncements, and no interactivity becomes lie number 4.
The flying was pedestrian in nature and so far away as to be un-photographable. The much vaunted dogfight was two F3s, each following a Hawk in lazy circles at about 2,000 feet. The pyrotechnics set off in time to the RAF Regiment mortars and GR4 flypasts at least made my son jump, but thats all. Many of the aircraft in the published programme were simply not there.
I could go on, but the list of things that were promised but were not there, and the list of blatant mis-information about this show and its content would fill a small book.
Andy Turner should be made to show his accounts on this fiasco. Terry Jervis has proved himself an incapable shyster of the worst stripe. I would like to know why the RAF still has him contracted after his failure to produce this show last year, two magazine projects, a clothing range of any quality and most crucialy, a movie of acceptable length and quality to base a £25 a head show on. He should be asked to return the funds paid to him and be removed from his contract for so many clear breaches. I doubt this will happen, largely because of Jervis's colour, no one wants the racist slur cast at them do they?
My final comment must be a reply to the Turner/Jervis statement about the ticket price. Yes, it does cost more for a ticket to Twickenham, but the international rugby organisers don't lie to me about what I will see, and I get a solid 90 minutes and a half time entertainment. You failed to provide even that. And further, rugby doesn't iron its teething and technology problems out in front of a paying audience. You two should be ashamed, you have made the RAF a laughing stock.
For tomorrow, the only three simulator rides have left for the free airshow at Southend (estimated audience in excess of 500,000) and it is unlikely any flying will take place int eh forecast 400 ft cloudbase.
Sorry to go on at length, but I think these facts should be made public, Turner and Jervis censured, and both of them stopped from organising anything else that costs the RAF money and reputation.
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We can only hope the "truth will out" via the Freedom of Information Act in good time.
I worry what the flop will mean for the future of RAF participation in airshows. I hope the powers that be don't take the poor turnout and inevitable financial loss as an indication that there's no market for airshows as a recruiting tool. Anyone with half a brain could see that Spirit was going to be a colossal disaster.
I fully expect a media backlash at the waste of taxpayers money, and personally am intruiged to see if the Scottish sister event at Kinross goes ahead.
I worry what the flop will mean for the future of RAF participation in airshows. I hope the powers that be don't take the poor turnout and inevitable financial loss as an indication that there's no market for airshows as a recruiting tool. Anyone with half a brain could see that Spirit was going to be a colossal disaster.
I fully expect a media backlash at the waste of taxpayers money, and personally am intruiged to see if the Scottish sister event at Kinross goes ahead.
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My daughter had a grand time with the RAF in Oxfordshire yesterday - flying with 6AEF at Benson.
There was no publicity within the ATC org. for this event. How hard would it have been to have sent a poster to all the southern England ATC locations - it's in the public domain. Offer them x% discount for group tickets of 10, and hey presto, your numbers swell, and your ice cream van does a good trade.
There was no publicity within the ATC org. for this event. How hard would it have been to have sent a poster to all the southern England ATC locations - it's in the public domain. Offer them x% discount for group tickets of 10, and hey presto, your numbers swell, and your ice cream van does a good trade.
Today's weather does not look very promising. Brize is giving:
EGVN 270438Z 270606 VRB07KT 9000 -RA BKN008 TEMPO 0606 6000 RA BKN006 PROB40 TEMPO 0618 2500 +RA BKN004 BECMG 1417 01020G30KT BECMG 2023 BKN016 BECMG 0003 36012KT
However, if Jervis Media try to blame the undoubted flop this farce will prove to be on low cloud and heavy rain, that will be yet another lie.
Not normally given to schadenfreude, I can't help thinking that this absurd event was doomed from the start. An air show is an air show is an air show... Nothing else.
Nor would it have been difficult to arrange some participation from Brize-based aircraft, given the fact that this event was postponed from last summer.
However, it is the RAF squirearchy who are chiefly to blame. The low profile the RAF has these days has meant that the nation's yoof, bar the Air Training Corps, is no longer 'air-minded'. A giimmick-ridden overpriced nonsense such as 'Spirit of Adventure' is not going to restore air-mindedness in the UK's youngsters.
I have copies of the RAF 'At Home' day brochure produced for RAF Merryfield in 1953 and 1954. This was just one At Home day of many, held at a small training aerodrome in Somerset. Yet the quality and variety it manged to provide far outstripped the paltry efforts which seem to be all that the RAF - with or without the efforts of Jervis Media - can manage 43 years later.
How glad I am that I was around to enjoy the At Home days of the 1960s...
EGVN 270438Z 270606 VRB07KT 9000 -RA BKN008 TEMPO 0606 6000 RA BKN006 PROB40 TEMPO 0618 2500 +RA BKN004 BECMG 1417 01020G30KT BECMG 2023 BKN016 BECMG 0003 36012KT
However, if Jervis Media try to blame the undoubted flop this farce will prove to be on low cloud and heavy rain, that will be yet another lie.
Not normally given to schadenfreude, I can't help thinking that this absurd event was doomed from the start. An air show is an air show is an air show... Nothing else.
Nor would it have been difficult to arrange some participation from Brize-based aircraft, given the fact that this event was postponed from last summer.
However, it is the RAF squirearchy who are chiefly to blame. The low profile the RAF has these days has meant that the nation's yoof, bar the Air Training Corps, is no longer 'air-minded'. A giimmick-ridden overpriced nonsense such as 'Spirit of Adventure' is not going to restore air-mindedness in the UK's youngsters.
I have copies of the RAF 'At Home' day brochure produced for RAF Merryfield in 1953 and 1954. This was just one At Home day of many, held at a small training aerodrome in Somerset. Yet the quality and variety it manged to provide far outstripped the paltry efforts which seem to be all that the RAF - with or without the efforts of Jervis Media - can manage 43 years later.
How glad I am that I was around to enjoy the At Home days of the 1960s...
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Well well well...... RAF website this morning -
That's handy. Nothing to do with yesterday's bijou debarcle then?
Interesting that all the other guff on the Spirit of Misadventure site seems to have been deleted too......
Following advice from the Met Office on the likely weather conditions today, the decision has been made to cancel today’s Spirit of Adventure at Dalton Barracks, Abingdon.
Poor weather conditions, including the likelihood of substantial heavy rain and low cloud all day, would have a major bearing on the safety of the flying programme on the second day of the event and the decision therefore has been taken before the majority of show-goers leave home.
The organisers regret the late notice of this decision however the event organisers were unable to reach this decision until just after dawn this morning following a weather update from the Met Office.
Poor weather conditions, including the likelihood of substantial heavy rain and low cloud all day, would have a major bearing on the safety of the flying programme on the second day of the event and the decision therefore has been taken before the majority of show-goers leave home.
The organisers regret the late notice of this decision however the event organisers were unable to reach this decision until just after dawn this morning following a weather update from the Met Office.
Interesting that all the other guff on the Spirit of Misadventure site seems to have been deleted too......
I wonder how many people who have already bought tickets (has anyone really done so?) will be checking the RAF website bfore setting off for ex-RAF Abingdon?
And, for a taste of what the RAF was like the year I joined, see:
http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/airdays/raf50/index.htm
And, for a taste of what the RAF was like the year I joined, see:
http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/airdays/raf50/index.htm
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Oooh you can be such a bitch at times, Stoppers...
I missed the 1990 Abingdon air show as my brother was getting married on the same day. But by all accounts you lot had a pretty good time?
Incidentally, there's nothing on the 'Spiwwit of Adventure, bwavado and dewwing-do' website about the other show due to be held at Kinross, Jockistan. That really is Kinross, not ISK.....
I missed the 1990 Abingdon air show as my brother was getting married on the same day. But by all accounts you lot had a pretty good time?
Incidentally, there's nothing on the 'Spiwwit of Adventure, bwavado and dewwing-do' website about the other show due to be held at Kinross, Jockistan. That really is Kinross, not ISK.....
Champagne anyone...?
It was a very quiet affair BEags. Must've been as I have little or no recollection of events.....
Is it me or do both the Jervis Media website and the Spirit of Misadventure website look as though were designed as year 5 school web project? I would've thought that a meejah company would've had some grasp of the concept of presentation etc. I'm no web designer but I guarantee I could knock you up a better website than their efforts given about 30 mins on Front Page
Is it me or do both the Jervis Media website and the Spirit of Misadventure website look as though were designed as year 5 school web project? I would've thought that a meejah company would've had some grasp of the concept of presentation etc. I'm no web designer but I guarantee I could knock you up a better website than their efforts given about 30 mins on Front Page
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Lovely!
StopStart, that is a stunning photo! 504s! Ah, Avro!
Cancellation due to weather may mean they recover some of the miss-spent public money in insurance cover, if they had any. The shame of it is that the RAF has a wide variety of real experts to produce some superb events. All that effort and money has been hijacked by a grasping cretin in Jervis and an either unbelievably gullible or stupid ambitious Group Captain. How could Turner have trumpeted the SOA at Horseguards when the crucial film hadn't even been delivered?
Interesting you note their website competence BEagle, its on a par with everything else they do, the CGI in the Jervis movie was terrible. You could do a better website? I could have done better CGI with Flight Sim X and a bit recorder!
So Turner is off to Odiham as OC in July I now hear. Not on promotion at least. Major General Coward, you are about to get an officer who is the living embodiment of a little knowledge and a lot of ambition is a dangerous thing as one of your JHC station commanders. You have been warned.
Cancellation due to weather may mean they recover some of the miss-spent public money in insurance cover, if they had any. The shame of it is that the RAF has a wide variety of real experts to produce some superb events. All that effort and money has been hijacked by a grasping cretin in Jervis and an either unbelievably gullible or stupid ambitious Group Captain. How could Turner have trumpeted the SOA at Horseguards when the crucial film hadn't even been delivered?
Interesting you note their website competence BEagle, its on a par with everything else they do, the CGI in the Jervis movie was terrible. You could do a better website? I could have done better CGI with Flight Sim X and a bit recorder!
So Turner is off to Odiham as OC in July I now hear. Not on promotion at least. Major General Coward, you are about to get an officer who is the living embodiment of a little knowledge and a lot of ambition is a dangerous thing as one of your JHC station commanders. You have been warned.
It was a very quiet affair BEags. Must've been as I have little or no recollection of events.....
(IIRC) - pity they repealed that one!!!
A quiet affair
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
A_A, there was an email shot for the ATC came out week before last. Special ATC price just £10 and they had to wear uniform. That was another lie.
The website only requested that they wear uniform.
Oh, the price, that was a lie too.
It was £10 plus a booking fee of £1.50 plus a fee of £4.80 per group of 6. Maximum group size 6, which put the minimum price at £12.50.
But was that correct as the website had a group size of 20. Ho hum.
Oh, and the RAF got in at half price to, yes only £10 + ++ + of £12.50 or so.
The website only requested that they wear uniform.
Oh, the price, that was a lie too.
It was £10 plus a booking fee of £1.50 plus a fee of £4.80 per group of 6. Maximum group size 6, which put the minimum price at £12.50.
But was that correct as the website had a group size of 20. Ho hum.
Oh, and the RAF got in at half price to, yes only £10 + ++ + of £12.50 or so.
Wobbler Fang, it wasn't my obervation about their website, to be fair!
Ah, Roly, you've clearly never encountered the dry wit of Stoppers at first hand
.. If he says it was a quiet do....
One understands that some of the female students took their allocated task of 'entertaining' visiting aircrew particularly diligently.....
Ah, Roly, you've clearly never encountered the dry wit of Stoppers at first hand
.. If he says it was a quiet do....One understands that some of the female students took their allocated task of 'entertaining' visiting aircrew particularly diligently.....