Leavey under fire - AGAIN!!
The journo in question submitted the article, as requested, to Caz for agreement and amendment.
On the other hand if what you are saying is that the journo drafted that article based on a conversation with Caz with her having the expectation that she would be able to change it before it was printed then she's incredibly naive. If you don't want it printed, don't say it.
I still maintain she's done more to harm relations between aircrew and the rest of the RAF than anything else I've seen in many years. All very embarrassing. Perhaps she would be good enough to write in to RAF News and apologise.
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Either your's and PN's posts crossed or you need to do some reading courses as what he has to say on the matter seems clear as a clear thing to me
Now in the face of PN's revelations, funnily how it comes as absolutely no surprise to most sane folk, I wonder what 3.4, TSM and the like have to say now
Either your's and PN's posts crossed or you need to do some reading courses as what he has to say on the matter seems clear as a clear thing to me
Now in the face of PN's revelations, funnily how it comes as absolutely no surprise to most sane folk, I wonder what 3.4, TSM and the like have to say now
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Oh god this really really dull now. Wasn't this thrashed out in the first thread. Get over it people, if you really are interested in other peoples lives get a copy of Hello magazine..................
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Are you honestly saying that the rest of the RAF is so thin skinned and narrow minded that they can’t see that article for what it is – a complete and utter stitch up. If my fellow blunt brethren are suffering relationship angst with aircrew because of this article then my pension in 2-years’ time can’t come quick enough. The girl was somewhere hot, dirty and dangerous where people are trying to do her, and her crew, harm every time she moves and you expect her, a junior officer with other things to worry about, like staying alive, to be able to second guess the motives of a creditable journalist inside the wire?
This is more a case of kick somebody when they’re down and twist the knife at the same time and frankly it’s shameful. I would suggest that half the senior officers in the 3 services are saying, ‘there but for the grace of God…’ while every junior officer has learnt a lesson from it that will stay with them for the rest of their career.
Hopefully Caz has enough grounds to take this journalist to the cleaners and I also hope that the Service will show its support by standing alongside her. I for one salute her and her colleagues for the job they are doing while I sit in my air conditioned office facing the daily danger of a paper cut.
Are you honestly saying that the rest of the RAF is so thin skinned and narrow minded that they can’t see that article for what it is – a complete and utter stitch up. If my fellow blunt brethren are suffering relationship angst with aircrew because of this article then my pension in 2-years’ time can’t come quick enough. The girl was somewhere hot, dirty and dangerous where people are trying to do her, and her crew, harm every time she moves and you expect her, a junior officer with other things to worry about, like staying alive, to be able to second guess the motives of a creditable journalist inside the wire?
This is more a case of kick somebody when they’re down and twist the knife at the same time and frankly it’s shameful. I would suggest that half the senior officers in the 3 services are saying, ‘there but for the grace of God…’ while every junior officer has learnt a lesson from it that will stay with them for the rest of their career.
Hopefully Caz has enough grounds to take this journalist to the cleaners and I also hope that the Service will show its support by standing alongside her. I for one salute her and her colleagues for the job they are doing while I sit in my air conditioned office facing the daily danger of a paper cut.
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Not only would I like to see Caz write an apology to the RAF News for both the readership to see, I would like to see her run three laps of the peri fence naked after being dipped in honey.
I don't think she should, I'd just like to see her do it. And you've got to admit -
it makes a lot more sense than most of the drivel posted on both threads about her so far
I don't think she should, I'd just like to see her do it. And you've got to admit -
it makes a lot more sense than most of the drivel posted on both threads about her so far
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Ok for you all please find a link here to the first thread.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=263967
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=263967
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
I would like to see the two journalists and the email leaker write the apology.
As for running naked covered in honey, only if he also had feathers on.
As for running naked covered in honey, only if he also had feathers on.
What made me chuckle about the original article was the notion that a co-pilot might crash an aircraft by being a bit fatigued! Surely when things start going slightly awry, due to co-pilot fatigue/nerves/inexperience/ineptitude, the captain steps in?
Anyone ever heard of a co-pilot managing to bring death/disaster/crashes by being slightly tired?
Or was that quotation just part of the unauthorised amendment?
Anyone ever heard of a co-pilot managing to bring death/disaster/crashes by being slightly tired?
Or was that quotation just part of the unauthorised amendment?
TorqueOfTTheDevil said oin a post on 05Mar2007 at 0840:
Spoken like a true ground pounder.
Now go slag off someone who's talking about something you know about.
What made me chuckle about the original article was the notion that a co-pilot might crash an aircraft by being a bit fatigued! Surely when things start going slightly awry, due to co-pilot fatigue/nerves/inexperience/ineptitude, the captain steps in?
Now go slag off someone who's talking about something you know about.
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Being one of the Ground trades who has had the pleasure of working with Caz on several occaisions in both theatres. I have seen first hand the skills she has as a pilot. I would just like to say having looked at both threads on here that most of the moaning is from officers and not the groundies that she is supposed to have upset in the first place.
I for one, knowing Caz, can see this article for what it is.
She has the utmost respect for all those involved in the day to day running of the fleet.
Now please leave it alone, act like officers and let it go.
Looking forward to flying with you again soon Caz.
I for one, knowing Caz, can see this article for what it is.
She has the utmost respect for all those involved in the day to day running of the fleet.
Now please leave it alone, act like officers and let it go.
Looking forward to flying with you again soon Caz.
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What this thread could really do with is a copy of the original email from the S/L Blunty from the Bunty, Planning Officer...I mean what the f*ck is one of those, which would really give those of us who knew she had been stitched a giggle...................come on pretty please someone must have it 
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What this thread could really do with is a copy of the original email from the S/L Blunty from the Bunty, Planning Officer...I mean what the f*ck is one of those, which would really give those of us who knew she had been stitched a giggle
"I didn't realise that much of my contribution has been in the 'less stringent' category, whereby the only thing of note is the odd pencil-lead breaking when we're a bit knackered. "I cannot imagine that she would really care knowing that she has upset a number of her own — neither does the RAF it seems if we sanction this sort of thing as good PR and reinforce a whole raft of stereotypes to boot."
Sqn Ldr Joanne Campbell
Speaking as a one time planning officer at PJHQ, I was shot at and mortared a whole lot more in that job than in any other in the RAF and probably been to more slightly dodgy places than most, but I'm sure not all, the rest of the RAF. Add to that the 18 hour days, 6-7 days a week for 2 years with but a few days' leave and I think that's where Joanne Campbell is coming from, not that I know her.
I would just like to say having looked at both threads on here that most of the moaning is from officers and not the groundies that she is supposed to have upset in the first place.
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Crikey I thought we had it busy Gar but I am just so glad I don't have a job where you work over 100 hours week non stop for 2 years, apart from a few days leave!
I take my hat off to you and your fellow planning officers as I had no idea anyone in the RAF or the other 2 services for that matter worked at that sustained tempo
Planning Officer..........shan't be recommending that job to anyone in a hurry
I take my hat off to you and your fellow planning officers as I had no idea anyone in the RAF or the other 2 services for that matter worked at that sustained tempo
Planning Officer..........shan't be recommending that job to anyone in a hurry