UK military pay rise 2007
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It shows in what low regard the Govt hold us, in what low regard the MOD civ servants processing this hold us and actually the fact that there has been no feedback from AMP - how little influence our senior staff officers have.
I despair and am glad to have pulled the plug.
I despair and am glad to have pulled the plug.
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If that's the case I might not be able to clear my ears on a fairly regular basis. I'm not going on strike of course, just looking after my health y'see.
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so in real terms a 2.5% pay cut for officers. (Again, one rule for us, another for them 
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I feel for you guys, I really do. I suppose it's only a rumour but if true I for one will be keen to see a very large public outcry.
)I feel for you guys, I really do. I suppose it's only a rumour but if true I for one will be keen to see a very large public outcry.
even if it weren't a wind up it would be about par for the course - there is a very steady erosion of officer's benefits in comparison to the ORs.
eg disturbance allowance for officers marking time for years ,
previous pay rises greater in % terms for lower ranks.
Recent allowance reduction that hit officers far more than ORs,
New pension scheme removes earlier pension option age.
By reducing the difference it dilutes the incentive to strive for a commission and makes those already shouldering the responsibilities to question why they do.
I agree its apparently good for ORs, however, it is an erosion of benefits for officers.
eg disturbance allowance for officers marking time for years ,
previous pay rises greater in % terms for lower ranks.
Recent allowance reduction that hit officers far more than ORs,
New pension scheme removes earlier pension option age.
By reducing the difference it dilutes the incentive to strive for a commission and makes those already shouldering the responsibilities to question why they do.
I agree its apparently good for ORs, however, it is an erosion of benefits for officers.
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How obvious can this be?
We were not born yesterday. Here we are, the day before March, still waiting for our well deserved pay rise and the government has 'gone dark' on us.
No questions, no comments, nothing at all. The delay can only fuel the theory that the shutters are up and everyone within the upper circle have been told to zip their mouths!
(If you ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies!)
If we were to get a substantial pay increase, relative to the praise we get everyday from the leader(s) of this country, it would have been done at the same time as the afghan or Harry deployments were released.
Therefore, there is only two options left :-
1. The Armed Forces pay review body are still fighting our side, or
2. The government is dragging the release date out until some massive news headlines takes over.
I would love to say the former, but that will only happen when most of our top officers are retired. So while the news remains bland and boring we will be sitting here twiddling our thumbs, waiting.
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If you want my prediction, we will receive the normal rubbish and nobody will bat an eyelid.......because not one Labour MP will want to get on the wrong side of GB. When it comes to our top military ranks making comments for us.....you can forget it, until they're surrounded by a leather sofa, sat in retired safety.
Sorry to be so negative, but this is just 'another brick in the wall' for us to all bang against!
FbS
We were not born yesterday. Here we are, the day before March, still waiting for our well deserved pay rise and the government has 'gone dark' on us.
No questions, no comments, nothing at all. The delay can only fuel the theory that the shutters are up and everyone within the upper circle have been told to zip their mouths!
(If you ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies!)If we were to get a substantial pay increase, relative to the praise we get everyday from the leader(s) of this country, it would have been done at the same time as the afghan or Harry deployments were released.
Therefore, there is only two options left :-
1. The Armed Forces pay review body are still fighting our side, or
2. The government is dragging the release date out until some massive news headlines takes over.
I would love to say the former, but that will only happen when most of our top officers are retired. So while the news remains bland and boring we will be sitting here twiddling our thumbs, waiting.
........If you want my prediction, we will receive the normal rubbish and nobody will bat an eyelid.......because not one Labour MP will want to get on the wrong side of GB. When it comes to our top military ranks making comments for us.....you can forget it, until they're surrounded by a leather sofa, sat in retired safety.
Sorry to be so negative, but this is just 'another brick in the wall' for us to all bang against!
FbS
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So young yet so cynical......HMG are just going to get all the other pay awards out the way before they announce ours. I've heard 7.9% for all.........
"When did the sky turn pink?"
"When did the sky turn pink?"
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Therefore, there is only two options left :-
1. The Armed Forces pay review body are still fighting our side, or
2. The government is dragging the release date out until some massive news headlines takes over.
What, like when the final resting place of Anna-Nicole Smith is released, 'cos that's all average Jo(e) public is interested in!
Therefore, there is only two options left :-
1. The Armed Forces pay review body are still fighting our side, or
2. The government is dragging the release date out until some massive news headlines takes over.
What, like when the final resting place of Anna-Nicole Smith is released, 'cos that's all average Jo(e) public is interested in!
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Maybe we are all to cynical. Perhaps the government are just waiting to announce the pay rises for all other public sectors and wait for the dust to settle, before announcing a well deserved whacking one for us.
bringgggggg!! the alarm has just gone off, time to get up
bringgggggg!! the alarm has just gone off, time to get up
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Isn't it about time that some blinkered brainwashed no-life ass*-licking career-monkey appears and tells us that we should all be proud to serve, and should in fact be paying the government for wearing the uniform of 'Er Majesty's Armed Forces?
* I have always preferred the American version, it has more bite and sounds less pompous than the Brit variant.
* I have always preferred the American version, it has more bite and sounds less pompous than the Brit variant.
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I reckon that if had come out by now JPA would have only had a 95% chance of c**king it up so they are waiting till it is time critical for the software to be updated to ensure a 100% chance of a JPA glitch.
Good job the Army aren't on till next month
Good job the Army aren't on till next month
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Waiting for lower inflation?
They're clearly waiting for the February inflation figures in the hope that those figures are lower than January's. Don't want to announce a pay award below inflation in the month when inflation peaked and the apparent 'pay cut' appears at its worst. My bet is 2.6% all round to match the pensioners. Next week is my bet.
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The UK inflation rate for January was announced on 13 February, so are you implying we will have to wait until around 12-14 March before the pay rise details are announced?
Of course..... you may well be right!!
The UK inflation rate for January was announced on 13 February, so are you implying we will have to wait until around 12-14 March before the pay rise details are announced?
Of course..... you may well be right!!
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No reply, no surprise
No reply from the MP (yet).
If 'we' all e-mail questions to our respective members (correct in every sense) might it at least provoke a ripple?
If 'we' all e-mail questions to our respective members (correct in every sense) might it at least provoke a ripple?
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If 'we' all e-mail questions to our respective members (correct in every sense) might it at least provoke a ripple?
http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/l/ to identify your MP if you are unsure.
One assumes most liberal MPs can be contacted on Hampstead Heath after dark
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Officers maoning again! you dont sem to mention the massive pensions of the Air Ranks! The lack of DWR that you do in comparison and the Whole Flying Club is run by your SNCOs