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UK military pay rise 2007

Old 29th Jan 2007, 11:59
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'twas not my figure, I'll have you know.

So say sorry !

Anway, a 3.6% pension increase would give me an extra 69.19 per month gross - before Gay Gordon gets his cut, of course....
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 12:58
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 14:19
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You ought to be a CRM instructor........
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 14:27
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You ought to be a CRM instructor........
I think he is!!
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 18:25
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Normally the pay rise has been released by now. However seening that Jan's inflation rate is a bit high I guess those in power are waiting to see if Feb's rate is a bit lower then they can justify giving us less.

Watch this space I would think that we might get a few quid more but in 2 stages like we got years ago. Half in April half in September.

Don't really care anyhow I 've had enough and have banged in the PVR to get out 5 years early .....days to do getting few.

Rot in hell Blair.
Here! Here! I wished i'd bugger'd off 5 years ago! luckly less than a year to go.... Funny thou every body i seem to talk too is off. Is there going to be a shortage of rotary blokes. Or is somebody juggling the figures???
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 18:44
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I dont care about any pay rise....I do all this for the sheer love of the job! ...."Please Mr nice man can I take this straight jacket off now"
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 18:50
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Here! Here! I wished i'd bugger'd off 5 years ago! luckly less than a year to go.... Funny thou every body i seem to talk too is off. Is there going to be a shortage of rotary blokes. Or is somebody juggling the figures???

Will the last man please remember to turn off the light...

There is going to be major shortages EVERYWHERE in the forces in the very near future unless Sir Jock gets a grip of this government.
 
Old 29th Jan 2007, 18:58
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Amen brother! Vote with your feet before that idiot Brown gets in!
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 19:10
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Amen brother! Vote with your feet before that idiot Brown gets in!

No, I want to stay in whilst that smug Sh*t from north of the border has to sit in as PM whilst the whole sorry mess that this government have created colapses round their ears... It aint going to be pretty....

Besides, I have a feeling that the Jock will get cold feet when presented with the option of pulling out of Iraq and saving him some loot to waste on some public sector nonsense as opposed to facing future war-crimes charges or ending up with a legacy like senior blair...

While he may be a very bad thing as a whole for the armed forces, I am certainly hoping he will be a very good thing for spending more time at home...
 
Old 30th Jan 2007, 18:15
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Why has this thread quietened down, I would have thought with everybody working so hard and in such difficult spots that a higher than inflation pay rise expectation would be a hot topic, especially since other measures such as the operational tax free bonus is such a small amount compared to what other countries receive and our salaries now are barely comparable to basic civilian professions.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 18:52
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Angry Quiet Thread

Maybe the thread has quietened down for a very good reason, that reason being that those still in the military are too busy doing the jobs left behind by the defence cuts and the "leaning process".

Dont forget, with all the downsizing that has occured in recent years, it seems that the work load has not just stayed the same, but in some cases increased with continued and expanded overseas commitments.

If any pay award were to be realistic, then it would be 9%, the increase attributable to three persons, whose jobs are now done by one.

Dont expect this to happen of course, one can but only dream, I for one shant be voting Labour again, I will be once again stuck , trying to choose betwwen the lesser of all evils, in a vain attempt to get it right for once.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 19:19
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If my pension isn't raised in line with inflation I'm going to have to PVR and find a job.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 20:29
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The civil service pay rise is 2.5% this year (Aug 06) and 2.5% (Aug 07).

The announcement makes the RAF pay rates look a model of simplicity and clarity.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 21:05
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Gents,

It is readily apparent to the vast majority of the Armed Forces that Brown hates us. He lied about the last defence review when he said it was driven 'by the need for effective armed forces', then told the treasury he could 'give them half a billion back' before the review had started. He should have be taken out into the street, and laid bare whilst forced to tell the truth about how much he hates spending a single penny on the armed forces and how much he begrudges every pound that goes on defence and not on vote winning projects in labour constituencies. Blair and Brown are driving the armed forces like 16 year old joyriders drive a stolen car - they are oblivious to the pain and suffering they cause, as long as they gain some satisfaction, and impress their mates. Personally, I think that if Tony Blair were to be tried for crimes against the British people, he would be unanimously found guilty, and should be treated as we have traditionally treated traitors, for make no mistake, that is what he is.

As far as a pay award goes - forget anything remotely fair. This is what SHOULD happen:

1. An average squaddie goes to war, fights for his country, and risks getting killed. FACT.

2. A brand new, shiny, police officer serves their country, and risks life and limb. FACT. They also go home most nights and don't spend months away.

3. Firemen - see point 2

NEW POLICE AND FIREMEN GET PAID ALMOST 50% MORE THAN SQUADDIES.

IS THIS FAIR???!!!

More to the point, Brown, (the most dangerous man in the world if you are British - make no mistake) - is it fair? - you MUST say that it IS, because you created this situation!

So, Gordon - answer me now or later, but the truth will out - it always does. Even if I have to march into parliament in my uniform and confront you face to face (Did you even know we (military officers) have a right to do that - well I've checked, and we do) - Look forward to seeing you soon - I will be armed with the facts and the truth, and I strongly suspect that I will tear you apart. Traitor.

A fair pay rise is 50% for the lowest ranks, 5% for the highest, and an incremental rise in between. If you are worth even a 40% pay rise (you're not - you are a leech on the British psyche), then you havre to admit that the armed forces are worth more than you - they work harder, longer, and for others, not for their own gain - who could say that about you - only you, I suspect.

I hate you
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 21:09
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[quote]/ 4.4% or more would be good but don't the sneaky b ds now use the CPI as a measure of inflation, currently around 3% ? /[quote]
When CPI was introduced, didn't Gay, Gobby, Grabbing Gordon say that CPI was only being used as a tool for accurate measure of underlying inflation but that RPI would still be used to calaculate Pay/pension rises etc?
Or is this another Tony's Tw4ts blatent lies?
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 21:47
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Bravo Ethereal Entity

Well said me old china plate. I haven't seen so much bile or vitriol in a post for some time.

And I have to agree.

And I'll be watching the BBC News on the day you march into Parliament too. In fact, would you need a lift?
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 21:57
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And herein lies Liarbour's problem; they promise the earth, then after they have spent all OUR cash frivilously (and claiming to have created a stable economy, whilst spending all the cash durning the boom times instead of saving in case it all goes a little Pete Tong) they get ruled out of power for eons until a new generation comes along that doesnt remember the bad times of the last old lot.
Stable economy mister brown? Well Want to account for the following?
http://www.in2perspective.com/nr/200...ecord-high.jsp
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2002107,00.html
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news/...-INFLATION.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nrbrown21.xml
Oh, thats right, the stable economy thats built on
This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_money_supply
its all going here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...oswecon125.xml
and the reason why we have such "stable"growth at the moment... they are printing more cash. Tonnes of the stuff. Thats what M4 is. And guess what that does to your savings and your pay? Thats right, inflation devalues it quicker than you can say lickety Split. Brown is going to achieve is utopian Socialist dream by inflating us out of our wealth. Thankfully, we get a say on the matter at the next election. Simple truth is, there is no such thing about a miracle economy. We will have to pay back all the national debt (including the PFIs you forgot to add to the total, which almost doubles it) at some stage.
I will even tell you how it will all end.....

"If the Fed wants to inject liquidity (credit) into the system they simply call up large broker dealers and buy some of their bonds with credit they create out of thin air ... The dealer then passes this credit on to 'the market' by making loans to mortgage companies ... or whatever ... Because each layer of lender is only required to keep marginal capital on hand, a $1bn repo done by the Fed eventually creates as much as $100bn in new credit to the consumer ... This situation is very unstable in the long run. The Federal Reserve's balance sheet this year alone has expanded by $30bn in this way, and created $3.5trillion of new credit" (for which read debt) "in the US."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/92f7ee6a-a76...0779e2340.html

to give you an idea, in 1929 (great depression) the GDP debt ratio was 2.9.....

today it is 3.6.

Im packing up and moving to New Zealand.

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Old 30th Jan 2007, 22:23
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ethereal entity,

I don't think I've such vitriol or splean venting since, well since Gordon was asked to pay for a war on 2 fronts.

Agree with every word you said - bravo, I salute you sir. Wish the press would print it.

Shame you're talking about people without conscience - they couldn't care less what you think.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 22:42
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ethereal entity..Whilst I agree with your post wholeheartedly you need to be careful when comparing the average Squaddie to your average Policeman and lazy, loafing fireman.

Its not entirely true to state that
An average squaddie goes to war, fights for his country, and risks getting killed. FACT.
On Occasion they may do but at the last count there were close 175,000 servicemen serving Queen and Country but just under 6,000 in Afg and just over 7000 in the sand......leaving well over 150,000 not getting shot at.
Agreed, there are other Operations around the world where Jack,Percy and the Light Blue boys are placing themselves in harms way.


Whilst I am here, can anyone remember what percentage pay rise we received in 1979 when Mrs Thatcher took over. I remember my pay packet rocketed over night but in those far off days I was a baby Lt and didn't get paid that much anyway. Any one recall the actual figure?
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Old 31st Jan 2007, 07:54
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And how many police and firemen are deployed overseas on ops? What is their percentage of personnel deployed?
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