JPA, BOCS, what next?
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JPA, BOCS, what next?
With JPA being a bit of a nightmare for most, does anyone have any ideas about BOCS, is it going to be any good? I think it hits the streets in couple of weeks and I dont know much about it. Any idea how its going to effect us front enders?
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Difficult to imagine that it will have been adequately funded to ensure that it works properly, first time. I can't see that its introduction will be any less disruptive than that of JPA. We were supposed to be briefed on its operation last week, but the trainers can't use it properly so heaven help the rest of us!
As with all these computer systems there seems to be an idea that they must be better than doing it the old way, although in my experience simply adding a computer to the process does not always improve things. BOCS seems to principally benefit those up the command chain as it makes it simpler to see what's going on, but I doubt it will benefit the workers at the coal face.
Bring back chinagraph boards!!
As with all these computer systems there seems to be an idea that they must be better than doing it the old way, although in my experience simply adding a computer to the process does not always improve things. BOCS seems to principally benefit those up the command chain as it makes it simpler to see what's going on, but I doubt it will benefit the workers at the coal face.
Bring back chinagraph boards!!
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Just delayed changing our unit's details onto BOCS as we have discovered that most of the qualifications and currencies don't apply to us and the ones that do aren't on the system!!!
I for one am all in favour of the chinagraph board and paper record/file system that seems to work irrespective of software problems and upgrade requirements!!
As an aside, like JPA all your personal and contact information is held on BOCS - including spouse/partner and children's details. Is it secure???
I for one am all in favour of the chinagraph board and paper record/file system that seems to work irrespective of software problems and upgrade requirements!!
As an aside, like JPA all your personal and contact information is held on BOCS - including spouse/partner and children's details. Is it secure???
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Many moons ago, we had a standalone electronic stateboard that we all liked whilst our poorer cousins remained in the 60s with plastic slats on their wall.
Then we "progressed", joined with our poorer cousins and we all used the Ops system to record engineering data. It wasn't very good but at least everyone used the same system. Just as we got used to it and made some changes to improve it, along came BOCS.
BOCS doesn't (or at least didn't when I last saw it) have any engineering pages of any use so.... we paid a contractor to develop a new electronic stateboard like the one we had originally!
At least we've managed to cut our poorer cousins loose again!
N Joe
Then we "progressed", joined with our poorer cousins and we all used the Ops system to record engineering data. It wasn't very good but at least everyone used the same system. Just as we got used to it and made some changes to improve it, along came BOCS.
BOCS doesn't (or at least didn't when I last saw it) have any engineering pages of any use so.... we paid a contractor to develop a new electronic stateboard like the one we had originally!
At least we've managed to cut our poorer cousins loose again!
N Joe
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Originally Posted by Background Noise
............AMS?
Who could forget CUDS that was brill!!
Like has been said good to see that our Procurement department is keeping ahead of its times, (aren't they due to go on strike soon)?Anyway there is nothing wrong with joining the ranks of the Womens Royal Balloon Corps.....
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TLAs are SOp TFN in THE RAF. The overarching conceptual solution provides an integrated operational archietecture that will instill a balanced secure option to ensure a conventional communication capability that will combine historic proven systems with optomistic promising innovations to prolong the existence of Electroinc Dinosorus Shytology.
can't put it any simpler!!
can't put it any simpler!!
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Originally Posted by cynicalint
TLAs are SOp TFN in THE RAF. The overarching conceptual solution provides an integrated operational archietecture that will instill a balanced secure option to ensure a conventional communication capability that will combine historic proven systems with optomistic promising innovations to prolong the existence of Electroinc Dinosorus Shytology.
can't put it any simpler!!
can't put it any simpler!!
AH so thats where shytology comes from
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ZOFO, IMI K AA TLAs would indicate a soupcon of morse monkey training!..what I said was that ' the idea is that a new system can be built to complement the old new technology so we can talk to each other while keeping a certain IT company in employment"
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OK, I'm in the RAF, have been for 15 years, I don't know what BOCS is, (do you mean BACS??), nor do I know what AMS or STARS is...... If you're going to have a discussion, at least someone explain what it is that we're discussing?
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And what of MFIS? That had defered success in April last year and nothing since except for the hardware that is fine for JPA, if it had JPA on it.
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BOC'S etc etc
Bought from a contractor/ouside source? Then it will probably be sh!te, but deemed wonderfull.
Developed in house through experience by the front end operators? Then it'll work, probably first time too, but will be deemed sh!te.
The diifference will be many bazillions of spons; no prizes for guessing which will cost more.
Bought from a contractor/ouside source? Then it will probably be sh!te, but deemed wonderfull.
Developed in house through experience by the front end operators? Then it'll work, probably first time too, but will be deemed sh!te.
The diifference will be many bazillions of spons; no prizes for guessing which will cost more.
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BOCS (Boeing Operation Control Suite) has been bought off the civy airlines to act as a system for crewing within the militaty AT world. Having had a breif at my unit today it is apparant that the system keeps freezing and locking up. This does not sound good as it is supposed to go live in 2 days!!
