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Without having seen the official paper, though I heard the same from someone at work this afternoon, I guess they will see over a trial period of a year if the rates system is cheaper and easier to administer.
Bring on my next det next Tuesday!
Y_G
Bring on my next det next Tuesday!
Y_G
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Found this web site: http://www.rafcom.co.uk/pay_allowances/allowances.cfm
Not up to date (1 Aug) but worth watching.
Not up to date (1 Aug) but worth watching.
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Good news, but worth noting that it applies specifically to Flight Sub-Imprests (FSI) only, not to Exercise/Operational Imprests generally. Also, I'll wait to see what the published rates are before I jump too high for joy. Still, a commonsense move, even if only guaranteed for a limited period.
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Ginseng
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Us in the RN never get an imprest, but does this work the same for a crew of us that go abroad for a det somewhere in Europe, have to spend our money and keep all our receipts, or is it impresst only
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The introduction of Capped actuals in concuntion with JPA was never a money saving exercise. They wanted to save on personel, but infact had to employ more people to administer the whole stupid exercise. It was the Army, bless them, who were against the FSI's. Dont forget to keep your Capped actuals rate sheet, to compare, and see if they cut the rates though.
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Hi Guys;
It would be nice to keep the rate as a 'stay on the ground more than 5 hours....get the full whack' scenario.
Don't think many of us go flying for 6 hours, land for 4.5, then go flying again for another 6 hours.....think it may bust CDT.....(not even the 7-5-7 boys would go for this as they prob wouldn't be on an FSI doing 7-5-7 anyway).
The only downside to the 5 hour rule is the start snag the next morning after you have spent all your dosh the night before on a nice meal....then you would have to go hungry ...(until the 29hr point!!) or start eating the perishables.
Be nice to the rainforests...don't collect receipts.
MOG
It would be nice to keep the rate as a 'stay on the ground more than 5 hours....get the full whack' scenario.
Don't think many of us go flying for 6 hours, land for 4.5, then go flying again for another 6 hours.....think it may bust CDT.....(not even the 7-5-7 boys would go for this as they prob wouldn't be on an FSI doing 7-5-7 anyway).
The only downside to the 5 hour rule is the start snag the next morning after you have spent all your dosh the night before on a nice meal....then you would have to go hungry ...(until the 29hr point!!) or start eating the perishables.
Be nice to the rainforests...don't collect receipts.
MOG
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Get the odd moment to pprune! I'll send C your love. Is that a pic of you behind the bar??
Oh, and any gen on post 26/09 rates would be great as I'm on my 2nd rainforest already
Oh, and any gen on post 26/09 rates would be great as I'm on my 2nd rainforest already
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As previously said through this thread, its only for 'imprest' trips so when your back there in 6 months doing a bit of 'simming', its all receipt based again, however it certainly makes the 8 day 'det' eating chicken tava a bit easier to swallow.
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Kipper Nav,
Prior to 1 Apr we only got rates when we were on the ground over 3 hours during a meal time. Meal times are no longer a factor, a big win for us I think. Remember whilst in the air for 5 hours you will be receiving food at public expense (ie: In-Flight).
I am very happy with the new rules and I think due to Bzn and Lynehams proactive canvassing on our behalf should be appaluded
Prior to 1 Apr we only got rates when we were on the ground over 3 hours during a meal time. Meal times are no longer a factor, a big win for us I think. Remember whilst in the air for 5 hours you will be receiving food at public expense (ie: In-Flight).
I am very happy with the new rules and I think due to Bzn and Lynehams proactive canvassing on our behalf should be appaluded
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I believe it came to a head when a 1* Bean-Counter came thru and realised what a rubbish idea it all was and we went back to rates.
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[QUOTE=donardboy;2868523]
Remember whilst in the air for 5 hours you will be receiving food at public expense (ie: In-Flight).
Only if you have onboard re-heating/cooking facilities....not all aircraft have an oven/microwave. Those that don't lose out. For example, a FJ transiting europe to Cyprus without AAR. Or a Kingair on a euro-trainer. Stops for fuel overseas and crew are not entitled to any cash/rates for lunch unless they stop for more than 5 hours. Not a very efficient use of the ac. There used to be an exemption to the 3 hours rule on the ground for ac without hot food facilities to just 1 hour on the ground. This has now been lost (although I hope temporarily).
However, going back to rates is certainly heading in the right direction
. Just goes to show if we, the end users, kick up enough of a fuss then someone listens to us....
Remember whilst in the air for 5 hours you will be receiving food at public expense (ie: In-Flight).
Only if you have onboard re-heating/cooking facilities....not all aircraft have an oven/microwave. Those that don't lose out. For example, a FJ transiting europe to Cyprus without AAR. Or a Kingair on a euro-trainer. Stops for fuel overseas and crew are not entitled to any cash/rates for lunch unless they stop for more than 5 hours. Not a very efficient use of the ac. There used to be an exemption to the 3 hours rule on the ground for ac without hot food facilities to just 1 hour on the ground. This has now been lost (although I hope temporarily).
However, going back to rates is certainly heading in the right direction
. Just goes to show if we, the end users, kick up enough of a fuss then someone listens to us....
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Could somebody please point me in the direction of the new policy document that the RAF has got about this change back to rates, as the RN are disavowing any knowledge of any change
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Back to rates
Official paperwork posted up on Sqn notice board today. It confirms that we are back on a daily rate which is to be issued in full, no receipts required. If you are on the ground for more than 5 hours full daily rate applies.
I bet the bean counters are looking at other ways of screwing us over though.
I bet the bean counters are looking at other ways of screwing us over though.
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Dicky, could you please tell me the name of the policy document, where it came from etc so that the rest of us can share in the RAF's good fortune?
Even better post it on here!
Even better post it on here!
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Now I was told a while ago that JPA would be accessible via the internet. Is this the case? If so, what's the address? It would be useful to be able to fill in the claims piecemeal when detached, before hitting the whirling dervish that is the office back home...
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There was a time, believe it or not, when Senior Oficers actually sought the opinions of Junior Officers because they were the people doing the job.
I can remember the then AOCinC specifying that I would be the Captain of a specific task so that we could "Discuss" various matters that had come to his attention. My (Navigator) Flt Cdr came along to provide top cover.
The discussion lasted for some 6-8 hours over 2 days and there was absolutely no adverse come back from the AOCinC.
The crew, however, felt that somewhere other than Vagar would have been a better choice of nightstop!!
I can remember the then AOCinC specifying that I would be the Captain of a specific task so that we could "Discuss" various matters that had come to his attention. My (Navigator) Flt Cdr came along to provide top cover.
The discussion lasted for some 6-8 hours over 2 days and there was absolutely no adverse come back from the AOCinC.
The crew, however, felt that somewhere other than Vagar would have been a better choice of nightstop!!