Why are only pilots captains
Thread Starter
Why are only pilots captains
Looking at the "young C17 pilots thread" made me think (a rare thing!). Why do most fleets only have pilots as the aircraft captain?
The kipper fleet is clearly ahead of the game and enlightened, by making navs and AEOs or pilots as the aircraft captain. Surely the man or woman with their finger on the operational pulse is the best person to be in charge.
The fast jet world has navs leading formations. Why should they not be the aircraft captain?
What does the pilot know about what is really happening abord an E3?
Does the captain of a submarine or the captain of the navy's surface ship ever "drive" the vessel? I think not.
Discuss
The kipper fleet is clearly ahead of the game and enlightened, by making navs and AEOs or pilots as the aircraft captain. Surely the man or woman with their finger on the operational pulse is the best person to be in charge.
The fast jet world has navs leading formations. Why should they not be the aircraft captain?
What does the pilot know about what is really happening abord an E3?
Does the captain of a submarine or the captain of the navy's surface ship ever "drive" the vessel? I think not.
Discuss
Couldonlyaffordafiver
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: The Twilight Zone near 30W
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BEA had a thought (an aberation?) in the Sixties that the Captain of the Vanguard should sit on the jump seat and the two First Officers should fly the thing (make it so, Number One!!). I can perhaps understand why a Nimrod or such should perhaps have a mission specialist as the Captain, but a transport? What's the point.
Having said that, I may be missing something here but as a non-military flyer, whoever the "Captain" may be: no controls, no say I'm afraid.
Having said that, I may be missing something here but as a non-military flyer, whoever the "Captain" may be: no controls, no say I'm afraid.
What does the pilot know about what is really happening abord an E3?
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LONDON
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Does the NAV/AEO ever drive the plane. I think not.
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Building blocks duh
How is that a typical J reply
As it happens irrespective of type he is 100% correct, there maybe well be a multitude of mis guided kippers who "thought" they were A/C captains but at the end of the day the guy driving is ALWAYS in charge
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Edited after sciatica's cartoon, as I am an ALM please explain to simple old me how you have "hooked" me
There is no rocket science involved in comprehending that whoever controls the control column is actually in control, I mean come on if a tea boy can grasp this simple concept surely you can
How is that a typical J reply
As it happens irrespective of type he is 100% correct, there maybe well be a multitude of mis guided kippers who "thought" they were A/C captains but at the end of the day the guy driving is ALWAYS in charge
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Edited after sciatica's cartoon, as I am an ALM please explain to simple old me how you have "hooked" me
There is no rocket science involved in comprehending that whoever controls the control column is actually in control, I mean come on if a tea boy can grasp this simple concept surely you can
Last edited by Always_broken_in_wilts; 28th Aug 2006 at 21:39.
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LONDON
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Boyblunder
Gay Bloke, how long did it take you to become a t*sser?
Later.
As we are about to get a bunch of way above average K guys onto the J fleet I guess you are a bit bitter at not being included in that gang
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Gay Bloke, how long did it take you to become a t*sser?
Later.
As we are about to get a bunch of way above average K guys onto the J fleet I guess you are a bit bitter at not being included in that gang
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Eire/HK
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The captain is responsible for the aircraft, but is not always in charge of the mission. The captain of a ship does drive it, (on cruise ships) almost always does the parking, and when its on auto pilot he makes the final decisions.
Thread Starter
airborne_artistWho signs the 700?
If he is the Captain the AEO of course!
Kev NurseWhen someone (Shadwell) ends an opening message with the word (directive), "discuss", I can't help but think, "what an arse"
As your ex captain - thanks Kev!
Shadwell
If he is the Captain the AEO of course!
Kev NurseWhen someone (Shadwell) ends an opening message with the word (directive), "discuss", I can't help but think, "what an arse"
As your ex captain - thanks Kev!
Shadwell
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: wherever I lay my headset
Posts: 538
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It used to be the case in the RN Fleet Air Arm that the senior crewmember was the captain... hence often that responsibility would fall upon the Observer (they've never had Flt Engineers) Is it still the case, or become another victim of jointery (and the perceived need to do it the light-blue way)? ISTM Captaincy is pretty much divorced from crewrole?