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Old 7th Jul 2006, 19:38
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Oh my God. The poison dwarf joins bristows. What next, an ex-OC 22 Sqn for CHC(you all know who I mean)
Unfortunatley, not all of us do know who you mean. Is the former ex-OC 22 Sqn you refer to an incredibly tall Test pilot? Please say no........

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Oh yes!

Oh Dear!
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 21:45
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Oh Dear dear dear indeed

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Old 7th Jul 2006, 21:51
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 22:12
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"Jim joins Bristow from his current role as Head of Media Operations for HM forces"

Since when? Methink his CV overstated the truth!

When will the civvy market learn that recruiting ex-RAF will result in an overmanned, over-cost bid - as they (the RAF) just do not understand lean manning and training.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 22:13
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Actually, some of us do!
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Old 9th Jul 2006, 07:24
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Bismark - it is the difference between doing just enough to satisfy the contract and doing the maximum possible with the available resources - one is driven by profit margins, the other by professional pride and many of us here are proud to be that way.
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Old 9th Jul 2006, 07:51
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How about getting the Beriev Be 42 from russia and fitting western engines and avionics. According to the following website, http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/vvs/a40-01.htm, "The Be-42 SAR aircraft would be able to take 54 survivors of a marine accident and would be equipped with liferafts, powerboats and a range of specialized medical equipment including a transfusion machine, defibrillator and ECG. It would also be equipped with various infrared sensors and a searchlight."
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Old 9th Jul 2006, 08:42
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Is it April the first today!!!
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Old 9th Jul 2006, 14:57
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Bismark - it is the difference between doing just enough to satisfy the contract and doing the maximum possible with the available resources - one is driven by profit margins, the other by professional pride and many of us here are proud to be that way.
Crab, oh come on! I do hope you are not inferring that the crews who work on the MCA contracts or for Bond SAR do not have the same professional pride in the work they do? Those in civil SAR have as much professional pride as you and your colleagues.

However, can you really blame a civilian company who is bidding for a SAR contract to not try and attract someone who has had recent experience in the SAR world? You and your colleagues may not like the individual on a personal level, but his recent experience at high levels in MOD SAR will be attractive for a civilian company bidding for the military work.
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Old 9th Jul 2006, 21:24
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It's a familiar process; they (BHL) took on Edward Taite in preparation for the DHFS bidding process (which they won), then he left. Then they took on Howard Hollingsby (ex Shell) in preparation for the Shell North Sea contract bidding process (which they won), then he left. Thus far it seems to be a winning formula!

If he's as bad as you make out, then it sounds like he and Allan Blake are made for each other
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 05:52
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JKnife - I don't know how you manage to infer any of that drivel from my post - maybe you're just fishing again.
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 16:55
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Crab

Sorry for not making myself clear, however the first paragraph in my reply was in response to your reply to Bismark, but I suspect that what you wrote wasn't really what you meant.

The second paragraph was in response to both Bismark's comment and your reply, which I did not make clear, I accept.

However, the points I made still stand. As for fishing? Never liked the sport!

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Old 10th Jul 2006, 18:40
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Flynx may well be popular with the RN as it seems to have a good track record on board. However, for Army use it is next to useless as it isn't big enough to do the job that the AAC need ie to provide support for Apache ops. It can't lift enough, it can't get enough troops in the cabin and, since it has no sensors of any kind - it is not a battlefield recce machine either.
The MOD keeps being criticised for not having enough battlefield helicopter lift capability yet the RAF buys Typhoon and the AAC will get Flynx. Meanwhile the Sea King fleet is knackered and can't cope with hot and high ops so we are left with not enough Chinooks and Merlins. But it's OK, Wastelands are propped up again by the UK taxpayer.
PS - liaison not laison
Interesting as SOHB lists the sensors the current lynx can carry and I'm sure they will be compatable with FLynx. As to lift I seam to remember a brief in the dim and distant past saying lynx was for lifting small teams like Milan or Javelin detachments or OP teams. And that lift of anything over a section strength would go by support helicopter. I agree the AAC lift capability is poor and 212's or 412's should be more widespread however in my opinion battlefield support hele should be part of the army just like the Americans and Australians have.
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