Why Nobody Likes RAF Police
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Originally Posted by clicker
16B,
Speaking as a civvie police controller, i.e. one that tells policemen were to go and gets away with it, I'm sorry your local force has not seen fit to prioritise its crime. The mob I work for requires burglaries to be attended with 2 hours of the call, a target that we generally make.
The problem comes down to government bean counters. While reported crime has increased in the 19 years I’ve done this job, the said bean counters have not increased the number of policemen by the same percentage, our total of police officers has only increased by about 500-700 in that time.
We no longer have speed management teams in every traffic area, although we have a camera team who do go out and about to locations more often made known in advance. If any plonker then wants to break the speed limit and get caught, fine by me for not planning in advance! http://www.sussexsafetycameras.gov.uk/mobile.htm for anyone interested
Due to other changes, more often or not, dictated to by government, where in 1987 I would be controlling 4 or 5 cars in a medium sized town in our area, I would now probably have 1 or 2 now.
This is not a fob off, but hope it explains some of the problems we have.
Cheers clicker
Speaking as a civvie police controller, i.e. one that tells policemen were to go and gets away with it, I'm sorry your local force has not seen fit to prioritise its crime. The mob I work for requires burglaries to be attended with 2 hours of the call, a target that we generally make.
The problem comes down to government bean counters. While reported crime has increased in the 19 years I’ve done this job, the said bean counters have not increased the number of policemen by the same percentage, our total of police officers has only increased by about 500-700 in that time.
We no longer have speed management teams in every traffic area, although we have a camera team who do go out and about to locations more often made known in advance. If any plonker then wants to break the speed limit and get caught, fine by me for not planning in advance! http://www.sussexsafetycameras.gov.uk/mobile.htm for anyone interested
Due to other changes, more often or not, dictated to by government, where in 1987 I would be controlling 4 or 5 cars in a medium sized town in our area, I would now probably have 1 or 2 now.
This is not a fob off, but hope it explains some of the problems we have.
Cheers clicker
I used to live in Sussex, and had a run-in with a Special (and he was truly special!). He tried to pull my wife over in his own personal car on the back roads of Billingshurst, driving like a fool. Eventually, and arming myself with a crooklock, we pulled over ready to do battle. At no point had he (or could he) identify himself as a policeman. Once I saw him in uniform, I asked him for his warrant card, which he didn't have. He claimed we were drunk (we weren't) and he wanted us to follow him to a police station! This was in the days when everyone was being told not to stop on unlit roads, etc. Er, if we were drunk, how could we have followed him? I asked him where his breathalyser was (he didn't have one), and told him that if I chose to cave his stupid head in, he could do nothing about it. He had no radio, no phone and no backup, and had not been near a police driving course. My wife phoned Sussex police and complained whilst he was trying (and failing) to assert his authority. The Duty Sgt asked to speak to him, he was told to apologise there and then, and we followed it up with letters. He was removed from special policing, we received a bunch of flowers, and the offer of compensation which we turned down. We were happy that this tool was off the road.
Then again, when my father-in-law was burgled they sent a special who was the nicest bloke you could ever hope to meet, and stayed with the task in hand for longer than expected, and even carried out a follow up with the local "bobby" security team.
Good and bad in all.
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...............if I was a RAF copper.......
......I'd ensure my DNA was removed to prevent the puddle depth of genetics being transmitted to others in the future........
(Sounds like a title for a new thread
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I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
I was just the driver, honest guv'. The cargo was a couple of Jerry Johns of Cyprus best being delivered to a mate on the Canberra sqn. Duty scuffers arrived to clear the jet and were told there were a couple of JJs of wine for a mate whose sqn was having a Christmas party.
OK, come down to the office and we'll check it out.
Worried AEO followed scuffers in wagon down to the office and the luckless matey was called to collect same. Once in the office scuffers call Maltese customs. At this point matey turned TT and decided he did not want the 'wine' after all.
Customs arrived and by now AEO after several months of Cyprus sun was as pale as the moon. Customs officer pulled the bung and took a deep sniff. We wondered if we could do a 4 min scramble back to Aphrodite. "Lovely wine in Cyprus, wonderful aroma" he said as he recorked the brandy flasks.
Great Malt. Scuffers? Pillocks. If they wanted to play 'on side' they could have simply impounded the stuff and returned it when we left. They could even have just impounded it. But no, they tried to set up the AEO for an international incident.
Love 'em? And this the same organisation that used to get loads of praise for the blue light taxi service. The moral? Trust a scuffer .................
OK, come down to the office and we'll check it out.
Worried AEO followed scuffers in wagon down to the office and the luckless matey was called to collect same. Once in the office scuffers call Maltese customs. At this point matey turned TT and decided he did not want the 'wine' after all.
Customs arrived and by now AEO after several months of Cyprus sun was as pale as the moon. Customs officer pulled the bung and took a deep sniff. We wondered if we could do a 4 min scramble back to Aphrodite. "Lovely wine in Cyprus, wonderful aroma" he said as he recorked the brandy flasks.
Great Malt. Scuffers? Pillocks. If they wanted to play 'on side' they could have simply impounded the stuff and returned it when we left. They could even have just impounded it. But no, they tried to set up the AEO for an international incident.
Love 'em? And this the same organisation that used to get loads of praise for the blue light taxi service. The moral? Trust a scuffer .................
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
I was just the driver, honest guv'. The cargo was a couple of Jerry Johns of Cyprus best being delivered to a mate on the Canberra sqn. Duty scuffers arrived to clear the jet and were told there were a couple of JJs of wine for a mate whose sqn was having a Christmas party.
OK, come down to the office and we'll check it out.
Worried AEO followed scuffers in wagon down to the office and the luckless matey was called to collect same. Once in the office scuffers call Maltese customs. At this point matey turned TT and decided he did not want the 'wine' after all.
Customs arrived and by now AEO after several months of Cyprus sun was as pale as the moon. Customs officer pulled the bung and took a deep sniff. We wondered if we could do a 4 min scramble back to Aphrodite. "Lovely wine in Cyprus, wonderful aroma" he said as he recorked the brandy flasks.
Great Malt. Scuffers? Pillocks. If they wanted to play 'on side' they could have simply impounded the stuff and returned it when we left. They could even have just impounded it. But no, they tried to set up the AEO for an international incident.
Love 'em? And this the same organisation that used to get loads of praise for the blue light taxi service. The moral? Trust a scuffer .................
OK, come down to the office and we'll check it out.
Worried AEO followed scuffers in wagon down to the office and the luckless matey was called to collect same. Once in the office scuffers call Maltese customs. At this point matey turned TT and decided he did not want the 'wine' after all.
Customs arrived and by now AEO after several months of Cyprus sun was as pale as the moon. Customs officer pulled the bung and took a deep sniff. We wondered if we could do a 4 min scramble back to Aphrodite. "Lovely wine in Cyprus, wonderful aroma" he said as he recorked the brandy flasks.
Great Malt. Scuffers? Pillocks. If they wanted to play 'on side' they could have simply impounded the stuff and returned it when we left. They could even have just impounded it. But no, they tried to set up the AEO for an international incident.
Love 'em? And this the same organisation that used to get loads of praise for the blue light taxi service. The moral? Trust a scuffer .................
There's many more stories out there that put us in a more positive light, but then they don't make such good copy do they? Understandable then, but still childish.
I could also roll out many stories of my own about aircrew getting up to all sorts of stupidity. But then that only brings this already very sad thread down to new levels of lowness.
As many have said before on this thread, there's good and bad in all. No trade is f*ckwittless, even the flying gods. The difference I suppose is that our own bad apples colour everybody's view of all of us.
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Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Well done, another war story.
The difference I suppose is that our own bad apples colour everybody's view of all of us.
The difference I suppose is that our own bad apples colour everybody's view of all of us.
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I bet PC Nobby Clarke the star of BBC 1 Traffic Cops programme tonight valued his experience as an RAF Plod before moving on to join Cheshire Police, where he has a first class reputation as an expert in road policing. His time in Germany was a good grounding.
He was recently recognised for his professionalism with a highly prestigous award.
Another example of someone making good after RAFP 'plodding'
http://www.cheshire.police.uk/showco...php?pageid=654
He was recently recognised for his professionalism with a highly prestigous award.
Another example of someone making good after RAFP 'plodding'
http://www.cheshire.police.uk/showco...php?pageid=654
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Take it to the RAF Coppers website (if they haven't deleted all their files again) this is about how the real forces feel about plastic piggies, not an episode of 'before they were famous'. Haven’t you got some combinations to check?
(not expecting to hear anything for a while as it's time for the Sy plod)
(not expecting to hear anything for a while as it's time for the Sy plod)
Another example of someone making good after RAFP 'plodding'
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Originally Posted by Bing
So no examples of someone making good while they're RAFP 'plodding' then.
Its an impossible quandary. Its a contradiction that would baffle the likes of Steven Hawkins.
Making good as an RAF plod is to leave it, isn't it?
I know Air Dogs can but the lead holding element cannot.
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LAC/Acting-Cpl/ Unpaid - RAFP with 11 years NCO experience before becoming a Flying Officer **** ******* retired as Group Captain, (Provost Branch) about 3 years ago...... Must have done rather well at plodding.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible.
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Originally Posted by stillagoodguy
LAC/Acting-Cpl/ Unpaid - RAFP with 11 years NCO experience before becoming a Flying Officer **** ******* retired as Group Captain, (Provost Branch) about 3 years ago...... Must have done rather well at plodding.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible.
They must have got thier quota of stolen bic pens big style then?
RAFP aint exactly proper policing is it?
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"LAC/Acting-Cpl/ Unpaid - RAFP with 11 years NCO experience before becoming a Flying Officer **** ******* retired as Group Captain, (Provost Branch) about 3 years ago...... Must have done rather well at plodding.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible."
All those you mention are still RAFP ergo they are STIL all tossers
The thread is not entitled look how many of plod do good in civvy street, most of us could cite numerous cases of mates from all trades who have made good whilst in civilian life
The thread is all about why the rest of the military think RAFP are a bunch of strokers, so get with the plot
Must admit I nearly pi@@ed myself when I saw the mad WOPIG state that the RAF couldnt all be bad as a bunch of movers had told him so............movers and RAFP........not much differance really
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"LAC/Acting-Cpl/ Unpaid - RAFP with 11 years NCO experience before becoming a Flying Officer **** ******* retired as Group Captain, (Provost Branch) about 3 years ago...... Must have done rather well at plodding.
Numerous Wg Cdrs and Sqn Ldrs also ex LACs, with and without dogs.
Anything is possible."
All those you mention are still RAFP ergo they are STIL all tossers
The thread is not entitled look how many of plod do good in civvy street, most of us could cite numerous cases of mates from all trades who have made good whilst in civilian life
The thread is all about why the rest of the military think RAFP are a bunch of strokers, so get with the plot
Must admit I nearly pi@@ed myself when I saw the mad WOPIG state that the RAF couldnt all be bad as a bunch of movers had told him so............movers and RAFP........not much differance really
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Greetings.
I have read this thread with interest.
Having done 23 years I have to question all these tales about RAFP doing the barrier. All lies.
Apart from one year at Northolt where the RAFP did the gate (Not counting the W H gate) it has been the every other ground trade that had to enjoy the delights of gate guard at every station I was at.
Plod just don’t have the porcine power to cope.
They were busy getting me and extra week of keys when they sprung the dodgy window in stores.
Ba
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I have read this thread with interest.
Having done 23 years I have to question all these tales about RAFP doing the barrier. All lies.
Apart from one year at Northolt where the RAFP did the gate (Not counting the W H gate) it has been the every other ground trade that had to enjoy the delights of gate guard at every station I was at.
Plod just don’t have the porcine power to cope.
They were busy getting me and extra week of keys when they sprung the dodgy window in stores.
Ba
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