BOCS WTF???
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BOCS WTF???
We are soon to get BOCS at sunny BZN apparently the next best thing after JPA
. However as you can only see your own program and not other peoples we have to go back to a perspex board and a chinagraph for the leaders to keep track on everyones det's etc. What was wrong with STARS?? Still, like JPA it's the way ahead
apparently so long as you back it up with a wax pencil. NICE ONE!!!!
. However as you can only see your own program and not other peoples we have to go back to a perspex board and a chinagraph for the leaders to keep track on everyones det's etc. What was wrong with STARS?? Still, like JPA it's the way ahead apparently so long as you back it up with a wax pencil. NICE ONE!!!!
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Perspex & marker pens are far easier to work with with respect to programming a section, as it allows a full overview of 3, sometimes 4, months at a time, and allows one's colleagues to perform gross error checks. People can also pop in to the office and have a quick check one their, or anyone elses, programme.
Sadly the Air Force is becomming i.t.-obsessed, with e-mails being sent to next-door offices instead of popping next door in person to 'chew the fat'. In many ways i.t.-osession is a retrograde step with respect to flight safety.
Sadly the Air Force is becomming i.t.-obsessed, with e-mails being sent to next-door offices instead of popping next door in person to 'chew the fat'. In many ways i.t.-osession is a retrograde step with respect to flight safety.
Last edited by Confucius; 30th May 2006 at 20:48.
Chinagraph and perspex, or magnetic strip and magnetic board. It is easy, simple, eminently flexible, does not rely upon knowlege of computers or the latest fashionable programme. Having done planning on large and small squadrons it is simple that is the best - ditch the computers!!
What was wrong with STARS?
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH STARS??
F*cking everything! It was an appalling spawn of the devil. Forced onto the premier tanker squadron by the most boring truckie in NATO who had missed his true vocation as a double glazing salesman, it was user unfriendly, desperately slow and thoroughly impersonal. Before the bastard thing arrived, we sent our requirements and the availability of instructors to the planners, they then sorted out the programme for approval. Done job, pure and simple - and we had time to instruct our students properly. After the sodding thing came in it was purgatory - I was stuck in an office for hours trying to work out an impossible programme and it was so time consuming that I used to risk no more than 4 days leave at a time due to the time it took to sort out all the changes after I got back again.... I shudder to think of the appalling impression our knackered, overworked instructors gave to our increasingly inexperienced students.
A classic example of an IT disaster which had to be coped with by hugely overworked folk run by a so-called boss whose interest lay totally in his next promotion. That stupid prick Kelvin Rucksack (now redundant and missed by nobody) refused to allow us to have a full time STARS-astronaut to fettle the b£oody thing, so what had been a superb job turned to $hit in less than a year as we tried to cope with ever increasing demands and ever increasing problems.
I wouldn't pi$$ on the grave of STARS.....
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH STARS??
F*cking everything! It was an appalling spawn of the devil. Forced onto the premier tanker squadron by the most boring truckie in NATO who had missed his true vocation as a double glazing salesman, it was user unfriendly, desperately slow and thoroughly impersonal. Before the bastard thing arrived, we sent our requirements and the availability of instructors to the planners, they then sorted out the programme for approval. Done job, pure and simple - and we had time to instruct our students properly. After the sodding thing came in it was purgatory - I was stuck in an office for hours trying to work out an impossible programme and it was so time consuming that I used to risk no more than 4 days leave at a time due to the time it took to sort out all the changes after I got back again.... I shudder to think of the appalling impression our knackered, overworked instructors gave to our increasingly inexperienced students.
A classic example of an IT disaster which had to be coped with by hugely overworked folk run by a so-called boss whose interest lay totally in his next promotion. That stupid prick Kelvin Rucksack (now redundant and missed by nobody) refused to allow us to have a full time STARS-astronaut to fettle the b£oody thing, so what had been a superb job turned to $hit in less than a year as we tried to cope with ever increasing demands and ever increasing problems.
I wouldn't pi$$ on the grave of STARS.....
BOCS is yet another example of how the RAF is prepared waste a lot of time effort and money changing its modus operandi to fit in with a piece of 'off the shelf' software designed for a civilan company that doesn't do what we do! It's a piece of s*h*i*t that could be bettered by a cheap laptop from PC World plugged into a mobile phone and connected to jetplan.com or baseops.org! Can anyone think of software procured by the MOD that actually does what we want it to efficiently ?
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Originally Posted by Specaircrew
...It's a piece of s*h*i*t that could be bettered by a cheap laptop from PC World plugged into a mobile phone and connected to jetplan.com or baseops.org!...
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Oh, forgot to mention one more advantage of perspex & pens - it tends to carry on working when the electrickery goes off. These days everyone is sent home when the system goes down.
Reminds me, today I needed to mention a change of tasking to someone in the next office, so of course I popped next door. The chap wasn't in, but a colleague said "well, send him an e-mail" in such a way as to suggest as though getting off my arse was a criminal offence!
Originally Posted by Greenleader
Well said Confucius! I personally have a policy of ignoring emails sent to me by people in the same building. If it's important, they come running down the corridor eventually!!
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I volunteered for a 'Hot Weather Chinagraph Trial' in the 70's with a company selected by the MOD called "Wax Lyrical plc" managed by an Alistair Campbell
Heard nothing since - my mind is spinning
Beags dear chap - don't sit on the fence - speak your mind - love you!
Heard nothing since - my mind is spinning
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the reasoning behind e-mailing the guy in the next office, is so that your a*se is covered when he says, 'nobody mentioned it to me'. Thats the way it works in the local council apparently.
