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Old 25th May 2006, 13:36
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I was being ironic ref the Beverley so as not to upset its many fans. I understand about smoke/fumes in the air (had a fire under the flight deck floor once when carrying three LOX pallets to Belize) but was under the impression that a bottled oxy system similar to that used by Jate for 35000+ft free fall para was under consideration for various tasks. I have been out of the RAF for a long time and it looks like it got nowhere. I believe that several C130H operators opted for gaseous oxy as opposed to LOX for obvious reasons. Has the J got LOX ?
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Old 25th May 2006, 13:48
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Not sure but the oxy system should be well-protected no matter how it is produced - however such protection is also only a relatively new-ish fit.
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Old 25th May 2006, 14:07
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well, one less serviceable 'k' !!!!

About 20% of the serviceable fleet just gone up in flames!!
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I understand that all SF ac have double protection for LOX. Cannot speak for rest of fleet. I am sure the problem is understood. PM me if you have any concerns.

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Old 25th May 2006, 14:26
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whoa!!!!
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:26
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how many K frames we got left now?
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:30
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But no matter what happens, the British Army officer still has his trusty black labrador with him.
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:32
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It's not so much how many k frames, more how many short k frames. Need the short ones for particular missions and we are not exactly flush...

I'd go as far as to say we are in a crisis. How are we supposed to spare the frames for a lengthy mod program now? Something has to give. If it is the program the boys do not get protected. if it is the op, red faces in High Command. Exactly who's idea was it to fight war on two fronts?
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:36
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Originally Posted by nigegilb
It's not so much how many k frames, more how many short k frames. Need the short ones for particular missions and we are not exactly flush...

I'd go as far as to say we are in a crisis. How are we supposed to spare the frames for a lengthy mod program now? Something has to give. If it is the program the boys do not get protected. if it is the op, red faces in High Command. Exactly who's idea was it to fight war on two fronts?
ok mate let me rephrase how man c130s of all models do we currantly have?
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:41
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fight war on two fronts
Look what happened to the last guy who tried that. Worth remembering how hard the Russians fought compared to the French. The Russians call it the Great Patriotic War and lost 22 million. I wonder what the Afghans will be calling it?

Easy - "de-stretch" a long one!!
I'm sure Marshalls would be happy to give a quote. Not sure they can give a courtesy a/c while it's in the shed, though.
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:45
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But no matter what happens, the British Army officer still has his trusty black labrador with him.
Dog Thinks: "If ol' Rupert asks me to pick that up, his arse is history".
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Old 25th May 2006, 16:35
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I know a very funny story about an Afghan dog adopted by some of the lads when they were sharing a control tower with some locals. Probably not the best place to divulge here.

As for the Herc is it a case of saving £600,000 at a cost of £50m for a new J model?

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Old 25th May 2006, 17:43
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Latest engineering reports predict maximum 6 frames within the next 6 months if absolutely everything goes to plan....

Guess its one less now....
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Old 25th May 2006, 17:46
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Old 25th May 2006, 18:12
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s**t going round corners though!
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Old 25th May 2006, 18:34
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s**t going round corners though!
The Disco3 isn't so bad, better than much of the competition anyway.
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Old 25th May 2006, 19:09
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Will there be any Ks left for the RAF museum?
And at the risk of being controversial should we really be sending the airframes that have had money spent on them for things like HEVS, DIRCM etc into areas where there are bad guys? We all know now that misters Brown and Browne will now be looking for other ways to save penies and their (over generous) pensions.
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Old 25th May 2006, 19:38
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Not wanting to state the bleedin' obvious but the whole reason for having DIRCM, HEVS, MAWS etc


IS TO ACTUALLY GO WHERE THE BAD GUYS ARE!!!

There is really no point sending Dumb frames - they would be even worse off!
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Old 25th May 2006, 19:47
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haha.. I thought I must have mis-understood his post
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Old 25th May 2006, 20:10
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I assumed he was being ironic ...

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