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Old 13th Apr 2006, 22:50
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New Forum?

Is anyone interested (Mods) in making Mil Aircrew into a private forum?

Aside from threads such as Chinook and one or two other well-discussed topics, the forum of late seems to be, IMHO, becoming somewhat indistiguishable from that of Jet Blast.

Or am I too old and should consigne myself to Av & Nost?

Feel free to lambast me ----
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Old 13th Apr 2006, 22:55
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So, based on your profile, is that a forum for retired "professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here." you're proposing then ?

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Old 13th Apr 2006, 23:18
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If I was a mod I would agree.

This forum is becoming less interesting as it is increasingly populated by the less professional both ex and present.
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Old 13th Apr 2006, 23:41
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Ask people to prove who they are and many of the real current aircrew might think twice before posting here.

And which retirees qualify, and which ones don't?

Anyway, shall I let Spruce Moose and others like him know that they're not welcome here before or after I get my own coat, Jindy?
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I think this has been done enough times.

1. Why is it needed - if you wanted to make it current mil aircrew, there probably wouldn't be anything interesting to talk about ..... I mean issues of security preventing much more than 'bar chat' which is what goes on here anyway.

2. There is much more to military aviation than just aircrew, and much more value added (whether or not you agree with it) by those who can talk about 'the good old days' or bring differing viewpoints.

However, there are a number of threads that I think would be better moved elsewhere, but that's not my job. If you don't have an interest in the thread - don't read it, it's that easy.

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*Pictures a gate plod asking for mil ID before being allowed in the forum.*
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Jind how about a non-aircrew and an aircrew, divided into Pilots and everyone else, sub divided into serving, non-serving, further divided into commissioned, and non-commissioned, sub divided into those with something I agree with and those that....... 'forum'

But you get the picture.

Consider yourself 'lambasted'

Edited to add :-

This is not the mess old bean. If you want to swap war stories, swing that lantern and pull up a sandbag then appreciate that everyone might want to hear the banter, not just retired pilot types who's only joy comes from sitting in the corner at the local village pub lamenting the day that 617 stopped using derogatory names as a callsign. And being called Wingco.
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http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...military+forum
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 07:48
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To be certain that everyone knows their place, ExRAFRadar's proposed forums should be then divided down by Service, educational attainment, UK region and what your father did for a living.

Only then would it accurately reflect all possible predjuces, and ensure that no-one was remotely offended (or interested) in the content.

Just for fun Jindabyne, have a guess at my last substantive rank in HM Forces, and the first HM forces training course that I passed out from
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 08:41
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Surely the forums available to our civilian counterparts in 'Airline Specific Private Forums' are all that is being asked for here? Is there any reason why the moderators cannot allow us the equivalent status? Or are military aircrew less worthy.

RAF, AAC and FAA forums would seem to be the natural breakdown.
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 09:03
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As we go purple surely we should be looking to cross-fertilise? As more light blue fly from dark blue bases, as all helicopters look the same etc, then separate forums would make it more difficult to find relevant topics.

Would JPA have been a light blue non-aircrew thread or an aircrew only thread denied professional input?

One question I answered was from deep field and totally non-aircrew however I did have expertise in that area and was able to answer. The thread had precisely 3 messages, question, answer and thank you. Without this polyglot forum it would never have seen the light of day.

returning to the purple bit, it is also good to have the colonial inputs too albeit the forum does seem to be UKAir biased.
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 09:21
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Well, I think it would be shame if only military and ex-military were allowed to partake in threads such as "Chinook - hitting back". I take a great interest in that thread as well as Caption Competition (or is that the sort of thing that is being criticized as being only fit for Jet Blast?).

Occassionally there are threads here to which non-military people can make a valid contribution (in my case anything about tax!!!) so why should you wish to close yourself off from the "outside world" and not allow the "outside world" to comment?

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Still wouldn't get rid of Southside!!!

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Twinact - 'RAF, AAC and FAA forums would seem to be the natural breakdown.' - now you are proposing not only that it is military aircrew, but only UK. nb the 'of the World' bit in the forum descriptor.

And as for access, I think it must be easier to regulate the airline forums, if only by staff number and posing some questions that only an insider could know, but how would this be done for a worldwide, military aircrew only forum?
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Safeware,

Yes, I am. If you would like a worldwide one, propose that as well. As for the UK only forums, service numbers are unique to individuals and would be a secure entry system.

Don't close down the Mil Aircrew thread, as Whirlygig says, many threads have interest to mil and civvy.

There is a place for a private forum for the military; as I said before the airline types are given that privilege on this site, so wouldn't it be appropriate for mil types to be afforded the same.
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Twinact, although service numbers are unique, how would you propose 'control of entry'?

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Most current serving people have mil e-mail addresses, plus moderators. PPrune are the experts in controlling their website, I'm sure they would be able to propose a system that would ensure proper useage.
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 10:36
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Twinact, although service numbers are unique, how would you propose 'control of entry'?
Could you check the validity of a service no.? I don't think so. Anyway, I've got two
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Twinact - most, but not all. But if you think it would work and you can get the support, go for it, free speech and all that.

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Originally Posted by airborne_artist
Could you check the validity of a service no.? I don't think so. Anyway, I've got two
How do the civvy private forums manage? I assumed they used their company numbers.
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