Future Carrier (Including Costs)
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Sorry. A demonstration of the traits designed into the platform for low observability under the overall mantle called stealth.
In forward flight during a mission, how would you provide the spec performance without a jet engine and a con-di nozzle?
Of the things people complain about with the F-35, the practical limitations of physics seems a strange one to add to the list.
At such close range, I suspect the visual bulk of the aircraft is a bit more of a giveaway to its presence than the exhaust plume. Low observability does not constitute invisibility.
Blimey. There's an effin great radar reflector called an aircraft carrier around when it's doing that hovering trick. A bit of near IR in that regime is hardly an issue.
In forward flight during a mission, how would you provide the spec performance without a jet engine and a con-di nozzle?
Of the things people complain about with the F-35, the practical limitations of physics seems a strange one to add to the list.
In forward flight during a mission, how would you provide the spec performance without a jet engine and a con-di nozzle?
Of the things people complain about with the F-35, the practical limitations of physics seems a strange one to add to the list.
Yes.
(The quote is from one of the photo captions at that link)
The production F-35 design has a compact axisymmetric convergent/divergent nozzle for the STOVL version and a longer set of nozzle flaps for better performance on the CTOL and CV variants.
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The thing that strikes me most about these PR pics is the amount of real estate (deckspace) we have. Seems completely disproportionate to our ability to fill it!
Potential to be more of a national embarrassment than a national asset?
Potential to be more of a national embarrassment than a national asset?
*at the time ours was the only one.
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I listened to a rather good brief by a RAF Regiment Officer the other day in which he gave the stats that in WW2 the axis powers lost 18,000 aircraft to ground based attack and the figure for the US in Vietnam was 1,800.
I’ve no reason to doubt him - and the figures do give a new slant to the ‘carriers are so vulnerable’ argument. Seems the risks of the sea base as compared to those faced by non movable airfields might not be balanced the way some folk put forward.
I’ve no reason to doubt him - and the figures do give a new slant to the ‘carriers are so vulnerable’ argument. Seems the risks of the sea base as compared to those faced by non movable airfields might not be balanced the way some folk put forward.
I hold the record for the first ever CRVL, c 1045Z May1st 1982; I was not sure whether I could safely hover after taking one of Herr Rheinmetal's 20mm HE through my tail. Took a bit longer to stop than Wizzle though!
"I counted them all out and I counted them all back"
Mog
"I counted them all out and I counted them all back"
Mog
Aye, 'twas a little tricky because the jumping bean's brakes were not very effective on a greasy deck. I stabilised at 50kts IAS with the ship doing around 20kts into wind, so c30kts ground speed. Touchdown was about 50' in and I stopped opposite Flyco, so about 300' of roll. Luckily the deck was pretty stable because any rolling moment would have meant the possibility of slipping overboard and an early bath.
Biggest problem was all the goofers on the flight deck who were all desperate to see the arrival. It was a bit like a football crowd with everyone moving a bit further forward to be able to see past their oppo. Flyco twigged though, and cleared them into the catwalk as I was short finals.
Hey-Ho!
Mog
Biggest problem was all the goofers on the flight deck who were all desperate to see the arrival. It was a bit like a football crowd with everyone moving a bit further forward to be able to see past their oppo. Flyco twigged though, and cleared them into the catwalk as I was short finals.
Hey-Ho!
Mog
Amazing what you can do with computers nowadays. It will never be able to do a "Farley climb" though!
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