RAF JPA Rollout
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This is the one time I do not mind posting when there is a high probabilty of a journo stooging around a thread!!
Got my flying pay on pay run 2 last month. This month had some of it taken back from last month and this month i.e. they have lowered my FP rate. Also paid to live in for last month and this one..I don't by the way.
Got a reasonably helpful lass on the JPAC number but guess what... long past 48 hrs and no call back/solution. This is a sizeable wedge of my pay missing and I will be incurring charges if it is not sorted.
For the sake of lots of p**ssed off, overstretched people can some journo stop writing about the fact that Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
Got my flying pay on pay run 2 last month. This month had some of it taken back from last month and this month i.e. they have lowered my FP rate. Also paid to live in for last month and this one..I don't by the way.
Got a reasonably helpful lass on the JPAC number but guess what... long past 48 hrs and no call back/solution. This is a sizeable wedge of my pay missing and I will be incurring charges if it is not sorted.
For the sake of lots of p**ssed off, overstretched people can some journo stop writing about the fact that Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
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This is the one time I do not mind posting when there is a high probabilty of a journo stooging around a thread!!
....SNIP...Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
....SNIP...Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
(BTW the definition of the word sarcasm can be found in the OECD between santa and spasticated)
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Just checked my latest JPA payslips for May.
Oh Dear.
Basic Pay and Flying pay correct - Hurray.
Correction for double flying pay last month correctly made - Hurray.
Promotion grant - £103.15 - Thanks, but I have not been, and probably never will be promoted.
GPD Offset Taxable - £1014.30 - Even the nice lady at JPAC did not know what the abbreviation ment or why I had been paid the money.
Net result I have been over issued by about £1117.70 which, like the flying pay, they will recover in the future. The problem is every time they do this they recover nearly the full amount back whilst I only receive £1117.70 minus Tax. Thus I am out of pocket (nearly £200 for the over issue of FP last month) JPAC told me I will get the money back from the tax people at the end of the year!
Please, someone in MoD Coporate Comms ( I now you read this forum) inform CAS of the real impact that JPA is having.
In trying to sort out this mess I have wasted 4 hours of my time writing to JPAC and my units HR staff (Bless them).
JPA is impacting operational output.
JPA is having a negative impact on morale.
JPA has introduces changes in allowances etc which have not been widely advertised. Whilst this may not be a change in the letter of the law, with respect to my Terms of Service, I feel it has changed in spirit. I have been let down again by the high level management.
I encourage every RAF individual to complete a tax return this year to ensure that they get all the money back. This will be a significat load on the Tax office. I am sure they will be pleased!
Oh Dear.
Basic Pay and Flying pay correct - Hurray.
Correction for double flying pay last month correctly made - Hurray.
Promotion grant - £103.15 - Thanks, but I have not been, and probably never will be promoted.
GPD Offset Taxable - £1014.30 - Even the nice lady at JPAC did not know what the abbreviation ment or why I had been paid the money.
Net result I have been over issued by about £1117.70 which, like the flying pay, they will recover in the future. The problem is every time they do this they recover nearly the full amount back whilst I only receive £1117.70 minus Tax. Thus I am out of pocket (nearly £200 for the over issue of FP last month) JPAC told me I will get the money back from the tax people at the end of the year!
Please, someone in MoD Coporate Comms ( I now you read this forum) inform CAS of the real impact that JPA is having.
In trying to sort out this mess I have wasted 4 hours of my time writing to JPAC and my units HR staff (Bless them).
JPA is impacting operational output.
JPA is having a negative impact on morale.
JPA has introduces changes in allowances etc which have not been widely advertised. Whilst this may not be a change in the letter of the law, with respect to my Terms of Service, I feel it has changed in spirit. I have been let down again by the high level management.
I encourage every RAF individual to complete a tax return this year to ensure that they get all the money back. This will be a significat load on the Tax office. I am sure they will be pleased!
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Originally Posted by Vim_Fuego
This is the one time I do not mind posting when there is a high probabilty of a journo stooging around a thread!!
For the sake of lots of p**ssed off, overstretched people can some journo stop writing about the fact that Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
For the sake of lots of p**ssed off, overstretched people can some journo stop writing about the fact that Jade Goody has had a new hairstyle and report on something that really affects people...errr I mean us!!
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RAF spokesman said he was unhappy with "bored" RAF "whingers" on PPRuNe
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/05/11/raf_hr_fix/
The RAF has declared it will have its stalled human resources computer systems fully operational by the end of the week, seven weeks after it went live.
Wing Commander Trevor Field, a RAF spokesman and administrator, said he was unhappy with press interest in the delay and "bored" RAF "whingers" on chat sites like the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe), which he said make things appear worse than they are.
The RAF has declared it will have its stalled human resources computer systems fully operational by the end of the week, seven weeks after it went live.
Wing Commander Trevor Field, a RAF spokesman and administrator, said he was unhappy with press interest in the delay and "bored" RAF "whingers" on chat sites like the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe), which he said make things appear worse than they are.
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Originally Posted by CommonSenseApproach
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/05/11/raf_hr_fix/
The RAF has declared it will have its stalled human resources computer systems fully operational by the end of the week, seven weeks after it went live.
Wing Commander Trevor Field, a RAF spokesman and administrator, said he was unhappy with press interest in the delay and "bored" RAF "whingers" on chat sites like the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe), which he said make things appear worse than they are.
The RAF has declared it will have its stalled human resources computer systems fully operational by the end of the week, seven weeks after it went live.
Wing Commander Trevor Field, a RAF spokesman and administrator, said he was unhappy with press interest in the delay and "bored" RAF "whingers" on chat sites like the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe), which he said make things appear worse than they are.
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Well of course we're bored - we've played all the 'waiting for JPA' games, listened to the hold music and upset all our local admin staff. What else are we going to do?? 
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Dear Trevor,
Sorry to whinge, but I'm bored. You see, I'm short £38.65 per day that the fully functional system has not yet paid me for flying last month. I have run out of money and can't afford to drive to work for the remainder of this month; so I'm sitting at home with nothing better to do than comlpain about your excellent system. Etc.
Sorry to whinge, but I'm bored. You see, I'm short £38.65 per day that the fully functional system has not yet paid me for flying last month. I have run out of money and can't afford to drive to work for the remainder of this month; so I'm sitting at home with nothing better to do than comlpain about your excellent system. Etc.
Champagne anyone...?
RAF site
Sorry if this has already been done but i stumbled across this rowsing horsecrap on the RAF website.....
"A true measure of the JPA system would be its ability to run the very first pay roll. This was successfully achieved and bank payments were made to RAF personnel on 28 th April as planned. Where there have been a small number of minor discrepancies caused by the migration of data from the legacy system to JPA, these have already been rectified or will be in May's pay run. These were clearly ‘one off' start up issues that have now been addressed. Great efforts were made to ensure that the small number of individuals affected were not financially disadvantaged."
Who are these deluded fools?
"A true measure of the JPA system would be its ability to run the very first pay roll. This was successfully achieved and bank payments were made to RAF personnel on 28 th April as planned. Where there have been a small number of minor discrepancies caused by the migration of data from the legacy system to JPA, these have already been rectified or will be in May's pay run. These were clearly ‘one off' start up issues that have now been addressed. Great efforts were made to ensure that the small number of individuals affected were not financially disadvantaged."
Who are these deluded fools?
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Pay Statement
As I have yet to receive the last pay statement (April) does anyone know whether May's pay statements etc will be any better? Or am i still assuming that the RAF produce these things!! I have only called my HR people 6 times and been told the Apil pay statement is in the mail for April!!l 
I have only called my HR people 6 times and been told the Apil pay statement is in the mail for April!!l
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More JPA problems
Hello All,
My first post need somewhere to let off steam!!! Has anybody noticed the tax codes are wrong on the JPA pay statements??? At a guess I would say the code is 503L the emergency tax code. Phoned HR and JPAC and apparently they 'do not deal with tax codes and therefore I need to contact Inland Revenue.'
How then was my tax code correct prior to JPA now it is wrong, I have been told that all the RAF tax codes are wrong and all are on 503L incorrectly.
I cant understand how this can be allowed to happen, all personell are more concerned with pay issues and normal work has taken a back seat. Couple that with the time issue of actually logging onto JPA, finding an issue, waiting on the phone for at least an 1 hour and a 1/2 only to be told that we cannot help you. At least 1/2 a day has gone buy lost to inefficency and beurocracy. The old system had its faults but at least you had a friendly scribbly to try to help you not a faceless inexperianced telephone assistant that has not got a clue. If this were a civvy company heads would roll over this fiasco. Yet again common sense has left the building stage left replaced by a farcical system that to quote our ex boss'...is not fit for purpose...'.
Sorry bout that had enough,
My first post need somewhere to let off steam!!! Has anybody noticed the tax codes are wrong on the JPA pay statements??? At a guess I would say the code is 503L the emergency tax code. Phoned HR and JPAC and apparently they 'do not deal with tax codes and therefore I need to contact Inland Revenue.'
How then was my tax code correct prior to JPA now it is wrong, I have been told that all the RAF tax codes are wrong and all are on 503L incorrectly.
I cant understand how this can be allowed to happen, all personell are more concerned with pay issues and normal work has taken a back seat. Couple that with the time issue of actually logging onto JPA, finding an issue, waiting on the phone for at least an 1 hour and a 1/2 only to be told that we cannot help you. At least 1/2 a day has gone buy lost to inefficency and beurocracy. The old system had its faults but at least you had a friendly scribbly to try to help you not a faceless inexperianced telephone assistant that has not got a clue. If this were a civvy company heads would roll over this fiasco. Yet again common sense has left the building stage left replaced by a farcical system that to quote our ex boss'...is not fit for purpose...'.
Sorry bout that had enough,
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ExJAFAD says:
"My first post need somewhere to let off steam!!! Has anybody noticed the tax codes are wrong on the JPA pay statements??? At a guess I would say the code is 503L the emergency tax code. Phoned HR and JPAC and apparently they 'do not deal with tax codes and therefore I need to contact Inland Revenue.'
How then was my tax code correct prior to JPA now it is wrong, I have been told that all the RAF tax codes are wrong and all are on 503L incorrectly".
The personal tax allowance for the financial year 2006/7 is £5035, the standard tax code for this year (source: Inland Revenue) is indeed 503L.
Believe me, you do not have a problem.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pa...%202006-07.pdf
"My first post need somewhere to let off steam!!! Has anybody noticed the tax codes are wrong on the JPA pay statements??? At a guess I would say the code is 503L the emergency tax code. Phoned HR and JPAC and apparently they 'do not deal with tax codes and therefore I need to contact Inland Revenue.'
How then was my tax code correct prior to JPA now it is wrong, I have been told that all the RAF tax codes are wrong and all are on 503L incorrectly".
The personal tax allowance for the financial year 2006/7 is £5035, the standard tax code for this year (source: Inland Revenue) is indeed 503L.
Believe me, you do not have a problem.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pa...%202006-07.pdf
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Tax Codes
Possibly but surely all personell shouldnt have the same ie lower ranks to higher ranks.
Also this form http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p7x.pdf says that the emergency code is 503L
Confused???????????????
Also this form http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p7x.pdf says that the emergency code is 503L
Confused???????????????
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Originally Posted by ExJAFAD
Possibly but surely all personell shouldnt have the same ie lower ranks to higher ranks.
Also this form http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p7x.pdf says that the emergency code is 503L
Confused???????????????
Also this form http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p7x.pdf says that the emergency code is 503L
Confused???????????????
I would interpret `Emergency` as `default` in terms of tax codes. In other words, if you qualify for any special tax allowances (OAPs) then until the tax office allocate the correct code for your circumstances they might just use the default (emergency) code until the system has caught up.
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Check your tax code on your last proper (blue) pay statement. It was probably 483L - last year's code. I'm also on 503L - which I believe is correct. I am still missing my flying pay though... And I've not had a pay statement for May, and it is against the law for JPA not to provide one before payday.
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How then was my tax code correct prior to JPA now it is wrong, I have been told that all the RAF tax codes are wrong and all are on 503L incorrectly.
NOte - My tax code was right. Incidentally, I got the right amount of money too. I wonder if there is any connection with having a wrong tax code and some of the other errors?
NOte - My tax code was right. Incidentally, I got the right amount of money too. I wonder if there is any connection with having a wrong tax code and some of the other errors?
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My last 2 were 507L. I'm guessing it should be '7 to account for the uniform allowance? Then again I may have paid too much tax last financial year, but I can't think how as I have no 'external' income.
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Works For Me
Don't want to sound Jack but whilst agreeing that it was a total clusterfcuk at the start (and for a few weeks thereafter) JPA seems to be doing the biz for me now. Availability has been "Green" for the last couple of weeks and I have my online pay statements for April and May. My tax code is 493L which should worry me (from reading the above threads) but I never understood the code to begin with so what the hell.
There are some irritating bugs that need to be addressed like not recognising shift workers for leave but hey, print it out, annotate the breakdown and stick it in the post. It's not life threatening.
Finally, any improvements didn't happen by magic. A lot of people (not just the guilty ones) have worked there socks off to get us this far and I, for one, am grateful. So thank you, you know who you are.
There are some irritating bugs that need to be addressed like not recognising shift workers for leave but hey, print it out, annotate the breakdown and stick it in the post. It's not life threatening.
Finally, any improvements didn't happen by magic. A lot of people (not just the guilty ones) have worked there socks off to get us this far and I, for one, am grateful. So thank you, you know who you are.