RAF JPA Rollout
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FJJP,
I know, I know, but I had to ask if only to see what obscure AP/JSP they quote when the tell me to sod off!
CBA
Anyone else who's interested,
No idea what Transition Family Charge is, but if they're giving money away I want some. Apparently there is an area on the payslip that tells you when rates/pay scales change. If its empty - no change.
I was under the impression that Service Days pay is LSA and stuff (albeit not broken down).
The statement appears on line and is also posted to you, but not to your home just to your work address. So, even though they get sent out 2nd class post by JPAC (ie no extra expense) they will not send them to your home address. I do not call that progress.
For what its worth my basic was correct. Here endeth the sum total of my JPA pay knowledge. Minus some random deductions you will never find out about and some allowances that are probably wrong!
CBA
I know, I know, but I had to ask if only to see what obscure AP/JSP they quote when the tell me to sod off!
CBA
Anyone else who's interested,
No idea what Transition Family Charge is, but if they're giving money away I want some. Apparently there is an area on the payslip that tells you when rates/pay scales change. If its empty - no change.
I was under the impression that Service Days pay is LSA and stuff (albeit not broken down).
The statement appears on line and is also posted to you, but not to your home just to your work address. So, even though they get sent out 2nd class post by JPAC (ie no extra expense) they will not send them to your home address. I do not call that progress.
For what its worth my basic was correct. Here endeth the sum total of my JPA pay knowledge. Minus some random deductions you will never find out about and some allowances that are probably wrong!
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And to top it all off, just to keep the end-user on-side...
AFPAA have decided in their infinite wisdom to not post daily sitreps on the farce that is JPA - oh no - they're only going to post weekly summaries. Telling us what's going on as it happens? - that would let people know that they haven't got a scooby what's gone wrong.
So, it's only Monday and despite Self-Service users supposedly having access from 1230, by 1330 the Server appears to have crashed and the system went RED and AFPAA don't want to give information out - medals for the guilty have already been issued and the hunt for the innocent is on! Wonder what other excuse (read "processor intensive task like the Payroll") they can find to stop Self-Service logging on and not look like the bunch of incompetents they seem to be?
AFPAA have decided in their infinite wisdom to not post daily sitreps on the farce that is JPA - oh no - they're only going to post weekly summaries. Telling us what's going on as it happens? - that would let people know that they haven't got a scooby what's gone wrong.
So, it's only Monday and despite Self-Service users supposedly having access from 1230, by 1330 the Server appears to have crashed and the system went RED and AFPAA don't want to give information out - medals for the guilty have already been issued and the hunt for the innocent is on! Wonder what other excuse (read "processor intensive task like the Payroll") they can find to stop Self-Service logging on and not look like the bunch of incompetents they seem to be?
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Good JPA Site
Gentlemen (and Ladies too),
When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.
When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.
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Originally Posted by Scribbly Bloke
Gentlemen (and Ladies too),
When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.
When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.
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Shouldn't we be adding those responsible to http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=221444 ??
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CBA - The RAF Benevolent Fund
We all get fleeced to sign up to donate during training and last month my contribution was 35p, but has obviously gone up at the same rate as SFA!!
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We all get fleeced to sign up to donate during training and last month my contribution was 35p, but has obviously gone up at the same rate as SFA!!
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This may help!
http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/afpaa.aspx
I especially love this bit!
This may help!
http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/afpaa.aspx
I especially love this bit!
AFPAA wanted to reduce costs, modernise outdated IT systems and improve personnel services to the UK’s military service members, retirees and dependents. Over the years, and through a renegotiated contract designed to take the partnership even farther, EDS and the Agency have worked together to achieve just that.
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only get 20mins on the net here in sandy climates on a day when we can book and guarantee not having to go flying, thereby relinquishing our place on the net to some bluntie holiday maker!!! Any chance of a quick "what's going on and are we getting paid/LSSA/etc" at the end of the month?
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Well, there is even less news as to what is going on with this c0ckup for those of us in the South Atlantic. No doubt I will find out that I have not been paid when I get a very angry email from the ex-wife that she's not got her dosh.... look forward to that
Can't find anywhere down here to log-on, and have spoken to loads of people who haven't got any log-on details.
This is just bl00dy appaling, but it will be hailed agreat success and many will already have been promoted because of it.
Tonks
Can't find anywhere down here to log-on, and have spoken to loads of people who haven't got any log-on details.
This is just bl00dy appaling, but it will be hailed agreat success and many will already have been promoted because of it.
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Friend of a friend is on the team at Innsworth - where they are working 18 hour shifts. The pay run will not work - tried and failed 8 times - so expect to be paid exactly the same as you got last month, when the pay run did work.
JPA will be the the final death knell for what was once a great Air Force, brought to its knees, not by guns and missiles and bombs, but by bureaucracy and incompetence and negligence.
JPA will be the the final death knell for what was once a great Air Force, brought to its knees, not by guns and missiles and bombs, but by bureaucracy and incompetence and negligence.
I have spoken to some people who have been able to 'view' their payslip on JPA. This is not rumour, or 'a bloke in a pub told me....' but first hand information. Some aircrew have not received their flying pay for the month, and some aircrew who should not be receiving flying pay (PA spine) have been paid it........!!!
How many months, how much grief, before all this mess is sorted out.....??!!
How many months, how much grief, before all this mess is sorted out.....??!!
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JPa Access
How confident are you of being paid on Friday ???!!!!!
Quote from JPA Online 250800 Apr 06
System Acces Plan for Tue 25 Apr will be as follows:
0700-1700 - HR professional users
0700-1700 - Payroll allowed access
1700-2300 - AFPAA - payroll and other technical diagnostics etc
SELF SERVICE USERS WILL BE UNABLE TO LOGIN UNTIL FURHTER NOTICE BLAH BLAH BLAH
If the payrun last week was so good then why do they need access all day today??!!
Quote from JPA Online 250800 Apr 06
System Acces Plan for Tue 25 Apr will be as follows:
0700-1700 - HR professional users
0700-1700 - Payroll allowed access
1700-2300 - AFPAA - payroll and other technical diagnostics etc
SELF SERVICE USERS WILL BE UNABLE TO LOGIN UNTIL FURHTER NOTICE BLAH BLAH BLAH
If the payrun last week was so good then why do they need access all day today??!!
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Some aircrew have not received their flying pay for the month...
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Found at http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...fPersonnel.htm
Why didn't we think of that... I mean, who's ever crashed an abacus?
And then this gem of a quote...
No, I imagine he wouldn't...
Blunty
The army of Alexander the Great, as it swept across the known world toppling kingdoms and collecting tribute, took its pay clerks and administrators with it. In a back office behind the luxurious tents of the leader and his generals, it's a fair bet there was a scribe bent over an abacus and a clay tablet, making sure the soldiers got their pay, and the spoils of war were shared out fairly.
And then this gem of a quote...
It's all a far cry from clay tablets and the rattling beads of the abacus. Would Alexander have conquered a bigger slice of the world if JPA had been available to his scribes? Probably not.
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Just heard an interesting couple of snippets.
There are more than 150 people who haven't been paid their Flying Pay and there are some which have been paid who aren't entitled - eg PA Flt Lts!!
It also seems that Flying pay (according to JPA) is based on PIC and not person, so if you are in a non-FP PIC then you aren't entitled!!
Might explain why some people have not received their FP!!
I am sure that won't cause some concern...how easy will it be to modify JPA to take this into account?
There are more than 150 people who haven't been paid their Flying Pay and there are some which have been paid who aren't entitled - eg PA Flt Lts!!
It also seems that Flying pay (according to JPA) is based on PIC and not person, so if you are in a non-FP PIC then you aren't entitled!!
Might explain why some people have not received their FP!!I am sure that won't cause some concern...how easy will it be to modify JPA to take this into account?