The J vs K Thread. Pacifists keep out.
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and that makes the j cr@p because..........?
That could have happened to anyone, have we now dissolved into a 'who messed up more' slanging match? Or can we go back to type bashing instead?
That could have happened to anyone, have we now dissolved into a 'who messed up more' slanging match? Or can we go back to type bashing instead?
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But i dont have to be Aircrew to say whether a aircraft is low or high, as a matter of fact the Belgian Army sentry post, adjacent to the BFI, which was 20ft high complained to the German Airport CO, that 2 of their antenna were knocked down by the draft produced from the aircraft. So in my eyes, thats fecking low!
I, by the way, didnt complain being the site commander, thought it was quite good actually!!
So your comment about being a soldier....i never said any different
and i do leave the flying to professionals...Bell-end!
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Always on leave in wiltshire, did you look at stars?? You've gone very quiet on the subject. I think it is you that owes sctizo an apology, just my thoughts.
No doubt you'll have an informed reply as usual.
No doubt you'll have an informed reply as usual.
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"Both the Ks, however, managed to soldier on nicely"
I'm under the strong impression that the Chinook is lifting far more than the 'k' is in Afgan and that the 'k' decided to clip a sand dune on a departure from a strip as it could not get airborne due to performance issues....
As for reliabilty, how many 'k' frames are actually working and doing a job? I'm not talking about flying around Wilts either(no need to post the answer to this,but the answer is obvious)
I standby to be corrected.
I'm under the strong impression that the Chinook is lifting far more than the 'k' is in Afgan and that the 'k' decided to clip a sand dune on a departure from a strip as it could not get airborne due to performance issues....
As for reliabilty, how many 'k' frames are actually working and doing a job? I'm not talking about flying around Wilts either(no need to post the answer to this,but the answer is obvious)
I standby to be corrected.
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=truckiebloke;2829480 ...and that the 'k' decided to clip a sand dune on a departure from a strip as it could not get airborne due to performance issues....
I standby to be corrected.
I standby to be corrected.
You can stand down now.
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Boy,
Been night flying, TAC course so with my head being on fire I forgot to look.
One thing I do know is that 24 ALM's are not guilty as charged but I will endevour to check the others tomorrow, prior to getting veah veah drunk at 24's beer call. If your there look me up and I will get the beers in
As regards an apology for the scabby one...........he either smells of wee or tows a caravan so it aint gonna happen
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Been night flying, TAC course so with my head being on fire I forgot to look.
One thing I do know is that 24 ALM's are not guilty as charged but I will endevour to check the others tomorrow, prior to getting veah veah drunk at 24's beer call. If your there look me up and I will get the beers in
As regards an apology for the scabby one...........he either smells of wee or tows a caravan so it aint gonna happen
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Hey, I ain't gonna hold my breath! Don't suppose the 'ALWAYS AT HOME AND NEVER ON DET WHEN THERE'S A BEER CALL ON' will ever change his spots. Know who he is, everybody does, know his sort, they'll always be the same. The young lads are working their tits off on the J and there's a number of free loaders taking the pi$$ out of their good nature. More power to you guys. I sincerely hope the burden you carry slackens soon. You guys deserve a break. I sincerely mean that. Could ABIW fall into the mould of the former? I wonder. If the cap fits........................................................ ............
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Dear oh dear scabies,
Not having a seat anymore is really making you bitter and twisted you silly little man
If you really know who I am, and many on here do, please feel free to come over to 24 and introduce yourself. I will show you the stats for 2006 and the projections for 2007 and you can then wander off to eat your humble pie as you contemplate the foolishness of your last post. But we both know that aint gonna happen
Pour yourself a cup of "Man Up" and stop whining like a big girls blouse
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Not having a seat anymore is really making you bitter and twisted you silly little man
If you really know who I am, and many on here do, please feel free to come over to 24 and introduce yourself. I will show you the stats for 2006 and the projections for 2007 and you can then wander off to eat your humble pie as you contemplate the foolishness of your last post. But we both know that aint gonna happen
Pour yourself a cup of "Man Up" and stop whining like a big girls blouse
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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ABIW
I know exactly who you are and what you have done in your career!You are known as one of the best loadies , and someone I've always come to for advice.Once again, Scitzo is talking p1ss... which evidentaly he smells of too...
Scitzo is obviously a very uninformed and useless individual who cant see the facts that are staring him in the face about the k, along with others....
I know exactly who you are and what you have done in your career!You are known as one of the best loadies , and someone I've always come to for advice.Once again, Scitzo is talking p1ss... which evidentaly he smells of too...
Scitzo is obviously a very uninformed and useless individual who cant see the facts that are staring him in the face about the k, along with others....
Lyneham sounds like a real 'fun' place to be at the moment!
Still, look on the bright side. It will be closing in a few years and you all go off to enjoy the delights of Brize!
Oh yes.........
J reliability - I have been let down by J's more than four times during my recent visits to the Gulf over the last couple of years, and I only spend about 40% of my life there!! Haven't had the chance to be let down by K's, so couldn't comment on whether it would have been better or worse!!
Still, look on the bright side. It will be closing in a few years and you all go off to enjoy the delights of Brize!
Oh yes.........
J reliability - I have been let down by J's more than four times during my recent visits to the Gulf over the last couple of years, and I only spend about 40% of my life there!! Haven't had the chance to be let down by K's, so couldn't comment on whether it would have been better or worse!!
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Not so. Only my personal experience here, but on my most recent desert sojourn, one of the J's was laid up for several days with prop issues, undercarriage issues, and other mishaps. The other one lost sorties to anti-skid problems due to the harsh conditions of going in and out of Bastion strip.
Both the Ks, however, managed to soldier on nicely - one with a badly crazed window, no GTC and a myriad of other faults, and the other with some significant airframe damage that had been temporarily repaired. They built them tougher in them days, you see. The Js 'superior reliability' is the real myth - just 'cos it's newer and fancier, doesn't mean it works better. I'm sure alot of that is due to the fact we are flying the arses off them, but the fact remains that the K can carry alot more snags and keep going - which is just as well, given that they're falling apart!
Both the Ks, however, managed to soldier on nicely - one with a badly crazed window, no GTC and a myriad of other faults, and the other with some significant airframe damage that had been temporarily repaired. They built them tougher in them days, you see. The Js 'superior reliability' is the real myth - just 'cos it's newer and fancier, doesn't mean it works better. I'm sure alot of that is due to the fact we are flying the arses off them, but the fact remains that the K can carry alot more snags and keep going - which is just as well, given that they're falling apart!
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Assasin,
Looked high and low on pilots and alm plots for both sqns for the last year and I could'nt see any ref to SF at all, a couple of mentions of T2 but that was about it, so not too sure what the scabby one is on about
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Looked high and low on pilots and alm plots for both sqns for the last year and I could'nt see any ref to SF at all, a couple of mentions of T2 but that was about it, so not too sure what the scabby one is on about
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Boy,
Been night flying, TAC course so with my head being on fire I forgot to look.
One thing I do know is that 24 ALM's are not guilty as charged but I will endevour to check the others tomorrow, prior to getting veah veah drunk at 24's beer call. If your there look me up and I will get the beers in
As regards an apology for the scabby one...........he either smells of wee or tows a caravan so it aint gonna happen
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Been night flying, TAC course so with my head being on fire I forgot to look.
One thing I do know is that 24 ALM's are not guilty as charged but I will endevour to check the others tomorrow, prior to getting veah veah drunk at 24's beer call. If your there look me up and I will get the beers in
As regards an apology for the scabby one...........he either smells of wee or tows a caravan so it aint gonna happen
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Assasin,
Looked high and low on pilots and alm plots for both sqns for the last year and I could'nt see any ref to SF at all, a couple of mentions of T2 but that was about it, so not too sure what the scabby one is on about
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Looked high and low on pilots and alm plots for both sqns for the last year and I could'nt see any ref to SF at all, a couple of mentions of T2 but that was about it, so not too sure what the scabby one is on about
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Haven't had a look for a while but in recent times the pilots were down as SF. Glad to see it has been removed. Line drawn under that one. Hope it was a good beer call.
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Having read through this whole crock of s*%t, it's nice to see the winged master race at each others throats !!
The pi55ing contest about who lifts what and when is irrelevant. Facts are, the 'J' props are ****e. In service they may be great.....put the a/c into maint and ...guess what.... 'change the props, they're f%^&ed because of the sand'.
Ferrari electrics and trick props on a 40 odd year(designed) old frame...do me a favour get the A400M! Only then will the 'my c&*ks bigger than yours' thing stop
'bout time the grow bags grew up !!!
The pi55ing contest about who lifts what and when is irrelevant. Facts are, the 'J' props are ****e. In service they may be great.....put the a/c into maint and ...guess what.... 'change the props, they're f%^&ed because of the sand'.
Ferrari electrics and trick props on a 40 odd year(designed) old frame...do me a favour get the A400M! Only then will the 'my c&*ks bigger than yours' thing stop
'bout time the grow bags grew up !!!
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Scabies,
I told you a couple of posts back the invite is there chap, pop over to 24 any time you like and say hello, if as you say you know me finding me will be no problem for you As regards being obnoxious and the face to face threat.........nah I just enjoy the good natured banter!
Boy,
I was fairly confident it would'nt be the ALM fraterntiy at fault and I have heard rumours about the odd pilot being mis quoted but could find no evidence on stars, but as you say line drawn.
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
I told you a couple of posts back the invite is there chap, pop over to 24 any time you like and say hello, if as you say you know me finding me will be no problem for you
As regards being obnoxious and the face to face threat.........nah I just enjoy the good natured banter!Boy,
I was fairly confident it would'nt be the ALM fraterntiy at fault and I have heard rumours about the odd pilot being mis quoted but could find no evidence on stars, but as you say line drawn.
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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