JPA - What will it do for you?
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JPA - What will it do for you?
I don’t post often but I have been a member of prune for many years. I sit back and read the many threads with interest, amusement, anger, fascination, frustration and sadness.
I have been in the mob for 28 years. I have been stationed at 13 locations, including many front line Sqns, I have seen a lot and done my fair share; mainly abroad on detachment. I have spent my life, with my wife, taking the rough with the smooth (mainly rough) and kept my (our) sense of humour and a stiff upper lip.
For 25 years we have lived in MQs because we have enjoyed being part of the “Family”.
Recently we have moved into our “FIRST” own home which is several miles away from where I work.
I found out today that under JPA, I will be £62 pounds a month worst off than I was under RILOR.
Worst still I have also found out that there will be no longer be any link between removals and disturbance allowance and the new “Home to Duty system”.
Only a few months ago I paid for my own removals and did not claim disturbance allowance to be able to claim full RILOR.
Now, anybody posted after JPA can claim all allowances with respect to a move and claim full home to duty up to 50 miles.
Good luck to those in the future that can claim, but ask me how happy I am.
My three percent pay rise has been effectively written off.
Once again the goal posts have moved. It really is time for me to get out.
And for those that may reply with “well you don’t get petrol money in Civie Street and anything you do get is a bonus – don’t bother!!!! I really am not interested in listening to people that have sold their souls for the so called better Air Force,
Quite frankly I feel shafted – again.
I have been in the mob for 28 years. I have been stationed at 13 locations, including many front line Sqns, I have seen a lot and done my fair share; mainly abroad on detachment. I have spent my life, with my wife, taking the rough with the smooth (mainly rough) and kept my (our) sense of humour and a stiff upper lip.
For 25 years we have lived in MQs because we have enjoyed being part of the “Family”.
Recently we have moved into our “FIRST” own home which is several miles away from where I work.
I found out today that under JPA, I will be £62 pounds a month worst off than I was under RILOR.
Worst still I have also found out that there will be no longer be any link between removals and disturbance allowance and the new “Home to Duty system”.
Only a few months ago I paid for my own removals and did not claim disturbance allowance to be able to claim full RILOR.
Now, anybody posted after JPA can claim all allowances with respect to a move and claim full home to duty up to 50 miles.
Good luck to those in the future that can claim, but ask me how happy I am.
My three percent pay rise has been effectively written off.
Once again the goal posts have moved. It really is time for me to get out.
And for those that may reply with “well you don’t get petrol money in Civie Street and anything you do get is a bonus – don’t bother!!!! I really am not interested in listening to people that have sold their souls for the so called better Air Force,
Quite frankly I feel shafted – again.
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Hardly....for goodness sake fella, you now own your own place. Yes, the goal posts have moved...but YOU moved them.....so do us all a favour and put them back
what would you like your empolyer to provide for you? Cheap housing, free medical care, free dental care.... If you dont like the cheap housing (IRO £ 300...thats a bit iffy cos thast wot I pay), free medical (£46.78 per month with BUPA), free sports (£50 per month down at golds), free dental (£24.25 in the high st) then do us all a flavour and save the military your wages
what would you like your empolyer to provide for you? Cheap housing, free medical care, free dental care.... If you dont like the cheap housing (IRO £ 300...thats a bit iffy cos thast wot I pay), free medical (£46.78 per month with BUPA), free sports (£50 per month down at golds), free dental (£24.25 in the high st) then do us all a flavour and save the military your wages
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Southside,
I have watched, for a long time, the response from many people on this forum to your replys.
Dont even bother mate!!!!!! - you are not worth it.
I have watched, for a long time, the response from many people on this forum to your replys.
Dont even bother mate!!!!!! - you are not worth it.
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Oh woah is me, woah is me....
I work for this company who pay me enough money to allow me to afford my own house. On top of that they will provide me and my family, cheap child care, free medical care, free dental care, free sailingexpeditions to cyprus, free skiing holidays to Les Deaux alpes, free weekends in Dublin, free beer, free clothing.....and yet still I am not satisfied and therefore I am going to leave the generous and willing company and workj for a much better company....now, where can I get my free water when I join Ryan Air?
I work for this company who pay me enough money to allow me to afford my own house. On top of that they will provide me and my family, cheap child care, free medical care, free dental care, free sailingexpeditions to cyprus, free skiing holidays to Les Deaux alpes, free weekends in Dublin, free beer, free clothing.....and yet still I am not satisfied and therefore I am going to leave the generous and willing company and workj for a much better company....now, where can I get my free water when I join Ryan Air?
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Southside,
And by the way, have you ever felt hacked off, frustrated, annoyed with other knobs preaching about other peoples life. I doubt it!!!!!
Why dont you get a life and leave prune because from what I can see you annoy a lot of real people and you lead a very sad life.
And by the way, have you ever felt hacked off, frustrated, annoyed with other knobs preaching about other peoples life. I doubt it!!!!!
Why dont you get a life and leave prune because from what I can see you annoy a lot of real people and you lead a very sad life.
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Originally Posted by SRENNAPS
Southside,
And by the way, have you ever felt hacked off, frustrated, annoyed with other knobs preaching about other peoples life. I doubt it!!!!!
Why dont you get a life and leave prune because from what I can see you annoy a lot of real people and you lead a very sad life.
And by the way, have you ever felt hacked off, frustrated, annoyed with other knobs preaching about other peoples life. I doubt it!!!!!
Why dont you get a life and leave prune because from what I can see you annoy a lot of real people and you lead a very sad life.
Oh quantrare young man. I live a very good life. I get paid a fortune for a job I love doing. I fly to my hearts content and love every minute of it. I travel to exotic and foreign climes. I enjoy the freedom of democracy that you pay for as well as enjoying free medical, dental, etc etc blah blah blah
I get to meet people from foreign Armed Forces and I get to discuss our policies and doctrine with them. I enjoy their social lives and enjoy their cultures. I work with the most professional and socially inept bunch of aviators you would ever like to meet. I enjoy their expertise, coolness in combat but most of all their aggression. My team plays hard and fights harder. But above all I love the crewroom banter and cross cockpit banter that the AF's brings to us all. I realise that we are all aviators, all warriors and all professional airmen who are commited to defending this counrty and commited to placing our lifes on the line for the freedom of our fellow man...and if that means enjoying free medical care then Im gonna collect it.
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Southside,
that is the best reply I have seen from you on this forum. If that is the case, I take my hat off to you. I envy the fact that you are still enjoying the life that most of us joined up to. I am a SNCO who has given just about everything they can to the mob. My old man joined in the fifties and I saw life in the Far East with him. As a SNCO so many of us have tried to make it, but at the end of the day we are only numbers and real dedication has never been recognised.
Sorry that’s why I am so pissed off.
that is the best reply I have seen from you on this forum. If that is the case, I take my hat off to you. I envy the fact that you are still enjoying the life that most of us joined up to. I am a SNCO who has given just about everything they can to the mob. My old man joined in the fifties and I saw life in the Far East with him. As a SNCO so many of us have tried to make it, but at the end of the day we are only numbers and real dedication has never been recognised.
Sorry that’s why I am so pissed off.
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Southside
Love it, great little piece mate, but one top tip: if you are going to do your Col Collins impression, best you don't start with:
''Oh quantrare young man''
Haven't laughed so much for a long time.
Love it, great little piece mate, but one top tip: if you are going to do your Col Collins impression, best you don't start with:
''Oh quantrare young man''
Haven't laughed so much for a long time.
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Originally Posted by southside
I get to meet people from foreign Armed Forces and I get to discuss our policies and doctrine with them.
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But getting back to the thread, JPA will allow me to control my own pay account with out some 17yr old snotty buggering it up. I will have full access to my pay and allowances. Claims will be in my bank within days rather than weeks. I will know how much I am getting paid without having to wait for the chit. I will have access to my leave and be able to plan my leave accordingly.
Can't wait....bring it on.
Can't wait....bring it on.
Southside,
I thought the RN always controlled their own leave without having to put leave passes in. Will you have to submit them now and actually be restricted to a set limit like the rest of us (were when I was still in)?
I thought the RN always controlled their own leave without having to put leave passes in. Will you have to submit them now and actually be restricted to a set limit like the rest of us (were when I was still in)?
From his/her(?) profile: "southside is not a member of any public groups".
Nor perhaps, the human race ..... as we know it?
Arty, do you think that southside meant "Eau Cointreau young man"? Drinking too much, perhaps.
Nor perhaps, the human race ..... as we know it?
Arty, do you think that southside meant "Eau Cointreau young man"? Drinking too much, perhaps.
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From what I understand from my JPA briefing, the system has yet to have a provision for claiming days off in lieu of public holidays worked. Great to roll it out on 1 Apr when we have easter and 2 PHs in May; all those poor souls who will end up working will no doubt loose that time off (another erosion of the quality of life that we once experienced).
And for Southside who will, no doubt, add that some civvies also get stitched work over PHs - yup they do, but they also get double time pay!
And for Southside who will, no doubt, add that some civvies also get stitched work over PHs - yup they do, but they also get double time pay!
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Originally Posted by RubiC Cube
Southside,
I thought the RN always controlled their own leave without having to put leave passes in. Will you have to submit them now and actually be restricted to a set limit like the rest of us (were when I was still in)?
I thought the RN always controlled their own leave without having to put leave passes in. Will you have to submit them now and actually be restricted to a set limit like the rest of us (were when I was still in)?
Rej,
This will be dealt with by the Unit HR Administrator in the PSF. They will re-credit your absence balance with the grant/public/shift days etc.
Not ideal but a workaround.
On the Pilot run just gone at bunker in London, JPA was well recieved by the OR's but, funny old thing, met with the most resistance from senior officers (Sqn Ldr and above)
This will be dealt with by the Unit HR Administrator in the PSF. They will re-credit your absence balance with the grant/public/shift days etc.
Not ideal but a workaround.
On the Pilot run just gone at bunker in London, JPA was well recieved by the OR's but, funny old thing, met with the most resistance from senior officers (Sqn Ldr and above)
So how long do you think it will be before the centralised call centre is moved from Glasgow to Mumbai to save money? (not sure which accent would be easier to understand though!)
What will JPA do for me? Probably cock-up my pay, leave (or absence, as it will now be called) and claims (re-imbursements?) even more than now. It will enable me to get loads of free calls to someone that doesn't have a clue what I am talking about.
And on a plus side, it will pay for itself in the first year by making it such a painstaking effort to claim for expenses that no one has the time or inclination to do so - not to mention a lack of space to store all your receipts!
I just love progress!
What will JPA do for me? Probably cock-up my pay, leave (or absence, as it will now be called) and claims (re-imbursements?) even more than now. It will enable me to get loads of free calls to someone that doesn't have a clue what I am talking about.
And on a plus side, it will pay for itself in the first year by making it such a painstaking effort to claim for expenses that no one has the time or inclination to do so - not to mention a lack of space to store all your receipts!
I just love progress!
Understand that the RAF will accept JPA on time "as long as the pay side works". It will be accepted even if none of the other elements work correctly. I guess someone's promotion is predicated upon JPA coming online at the target date.
What has JPA done for me? I look forward to it buggering up my leave and travel claims for the next few months!!
What has JPA done for me? I look forward to it buggering up my leave and travel claims for the next few months!!
Southside,That is twice in the space of a month I have found myself agreeing with you.....I will be calling WEBF "mate" next!.The best thing about JPA is that the RAF will be the guinea pigs!Oh, are you guys still not getting paid more than 28 days in February?
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What will JPA do for you? Be afraid.... be very afraid, most of us have done online banking or bought something online right? The weary will always check to see if there is a padlock on the bottom right hand side of the browser window.
Just wait and see..... not sure that we will get to see that padlock....
Watch and shoot...... watch and shoot!
TBK
Just wait and see..... not sure that we will get to see that padlock....
Watch and shoot...... watch and shoot!
TBK