AP3003 A Brief History of the Royal Air Force
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We got ours a few months ago just as my service ethos and core values were flagging.
I hope they haven't been sent OOA as the lads will be even more depressed. I suppose after 4 months in the desert the very ugly waffies pictured within might just start to look attractive
I hope they haven't been sent OOA as the lads will be even more depressed. I suppose after 4 months in the desert the very ugly waffies pictured within might just start to look attractive
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So thats a concise History of the RAF (x amount of £'s)
"Gucci" Typhoon trainers. (more £'s)
RAF daysacks....(even more £'s)
FAA arm badges (oh even more money)
Sounds like the best way of getting value for your / my money?
"Gucci" Typhoon trainers. (more £'s)
RAF daysacks....(even more £'s)
FAA arm badges (oh even more money)
Sounds like the best way of getting value for your / my money?
Because a blue/grey beret, a cap badge and a blue rank slide aren't enough to show we're in the RAF.
So thats a concise History of the RAF (x amount of £'s)......
... I don't have an immersion suit with the right sized feet (waiting for more stock, then staff to make them up...)
... and there's no neck roll, so when I do wear the too-small imm suit, I get nappy rash round my neck
But on the bright side, on my next visit to stores I'll get a **** rucksack, a bunch of green badges for my next stint on CCS, and a copy of AP3003.
Is there a chapter entitled "how good it used to be when we had a ton of cash?"
P.S. I love my job really
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Thanks Cambridge Crash, I really must start reading from the front of a book. I am surprised that its authors/editors etc have actually had the nerve to claim responsibility for what is at best, error strewn, at worst, a shambles.
Would anyone on pprune care to own up to being one of its creators then ?
56,000 copies, i have read elsewhere.
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Would anyone on pprune care to own up to being one of its creators then ?
56,000 copies, i have read elsewhere.
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Acident of History
S-H,
I have managed to obtain a copy of AP 3003 and I would be interested in a list of the errors that are strewn throughout the document, so I can review it from an academic perspective (rather than from the view of those serving).
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I have managed to obtain a copy of AP 3003 and I would be interested in a list of the errors that are strewn throughout the document, so I can review it from an academic perspective (rather than from the view of those serving).
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To be fair, I don't think the 'Typhoon Trainers' are anything other than a licensing exercise for the RAF, though I stand to be corrected.
As for the CS 95 badges, I would agree with the helpful stacker:
except that I've got a couple of mates serving with 16 Air Assault Brigade who, despite being RAF officers, are forced to wear para berets, identity patches and comedy belts to show that they belong to the Brigade. I am still not convinced this is legal, but I suppose that if the Brigadier says it must be, it must be. Don't half look silly when they visit RAF units in their pongo gear though. (I thought you had to do Pee Company to get one of those pink hats?)
On the subject of AP3003, I believe most of the SPFSs hold them (in huge stacks of brown boxes).
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As for the CS 95 badges, I would agree with the helpful stacker:
Because a blue/grey beret, a cap badge and a blue rank slide aren't enough to show we're in the RAF.
On the subject of AP3003, I believe most of the SPFSs hold them (in huge stacks of brown boxes).
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I would certainly be willing to proof read it, not sure what the standard fees are for that sort of work though.
As a starter though, have a look at pages 198 and 199 and tell me if they are not the same pictures, but with different captions.
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I would certainly be willing to proof read it, not sure what the standard fees are for that sort of work though.
As a starter though, have a look at pages 198 and 199 and tell me if they are not the same pictures, but with different captions.
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I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
AHB admit that there are caption errors, one shows a IX Sqn ac when it should be XXX because they used the number 9 instead of 29.
The guy in the pressure suit is a bit light, the suit is empty.
etc etc
She knows there are errors and would like to update these in a reprint. There are also lots of omissions as 'my' favourite story, operation, exercise or whatever, has been omitted, but there is too much call on space.
The guy in the pressure suit is a bit light, the suit is empty.
etc etc
She knows there are errors and would like to update these in a reprint. There are also lots of omissions as 'my' favourite story, operation, exercise or whatever, has been omitted, but there is too much call on space.
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Cost of AP3003
The cost of producing the 60,000 copies of AP3003 was asked and answered in the house: £100,668.
Much less than I think many of us expected, but, money well spent ?
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Much less than I think many of us expected, but, money well spent ?
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Did anyone read the article on Page 11 of the Mail On Sunday??
Looked remarkably like this thread.......
Mind you, come to think of it, thats not the first "PPRuNe" story I've seen hit the papers....you saw it here first kids
Looked remarkably like this thread.......
Mind you, come to think of it, thats not the first "PPRuNe" story I've seen hit the papers....you saw it here first kids
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The 3003 is'nt particuarly absorbant but does make an average doorstop or a great wobbly table/chair rectification device. If you have not received one then it is probably sat in my office with the other 17 copies that have accumulated there in various hidey-holes over the past few months.
On the rucsack subject I have heard in conversation from at least two people how they walk to their car in the morning using a normal civilian rucsac then either on reaching said automobile, or when reaching their place of work, they shove the civvy one inside the RAF sack to complete their commute. Something to do with the high viz wording and birdy on the top flap....
I still smirk to myself when I think back to the time everyone was 'issued' a CD that you could pop into your PC and be enlightened as to where our assets were the previous year and what they were all supposed to do...within minutes of opening the packaging and realising how utterly pants it was every office in my squadron had some lovely new coasters for our expensive personalised mugs.
On the rucsack subject I have heard in conversation from at least two people how they walk to their car in the morning using a normal civilian rucsac then either on reaching said automobile, or when reaching their place of work, they shove the civvy one inside the RAF sack to complete their commute. Something to do with the high viz wording and birdy on the top flap....
I still smirk to myself when I think back to the time everyone was 'issued' a CD that you could pop into your PC and be enlightened as to where our assets were the previous year and what they were all supposed to do...within minutes of opening the packaging and realising how utterly pants it was every office in my squadron had some lovely new coasters for our expensive personalised mugs.
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I still smirk to myself when I think back to the time everyone was 'issued' a CD that you could pop into your PC and be enlightened as to where our assets were the previous year and what they were all supposed to do...within minutes of opening the packaging and realising how utterly pants it was every office in my squadron had some lovely new coasters for our expensive personalised mugs.
It made a great frisbee and was thrown around the Mess and various ops rooms in quiet moments...
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Gobsmacked!!
I have yet to see this book but await it with anticipation, having read about it in the MOS.
Why are we wasting money on stuff like this- are our leaders really that out of touch? Even £100000 could have been better spent on a new SLAM unit or doing up a few rooms in the Mess or a couple of MQ's.
I remember as a recruit at Swinderby having lectures on the history of the service and having to pass an exam on said subject- do we still do this?
Likewise, whats all this mission statement guff? Even when I was a spotty 17yr old LAC I knew what I was in the RAF for, and what my units role was- do we really need it spelt out in 12in high letters? Is communication in the service really that bad?
I guess it is as my wife came home from work today and told me that the GR4 force (of which I am a member) is taking over Afganistan from JFH next year, according to a bloke at work who reads Air Forces Monthly. Assuming this is true, it would have nice to have heard it from someone in a green or blue suit, rather than grumpy wife contemplately yet more separation!
Why are we wasting money on stuff like this- are our leaders really that out of touch? Even £100000 could have been better spent on a new SLAM unit or doing up a few rooms in the Mess or a couple of MQ's.
I remember as a recruit at Swinderby having lectures on the history of the service and having to pass an exam on said subject- do we still do this?
Likewise, whats all this mission statement guff? Even when I was a spotty 17yr old LAC I knew what I was in the RAF for, and what my units role was- do we really need it spelt out in 12in high letters? Is communication in the service really that bad?
I guess it is as my wife came home from work today and told me that the GR4 force (of which I am a member) is taking over Afganistan from JFH next year, according to a bloke at work who reads Air Forces Monthly. Assuming this is true, it would have nice to have heard it from someone in a green or blue suit, rather than grumpy wife contemplately yet more separation!
Sooms,
Air Forces Monthly says:
" The JFH deployment is expected to continue until December 2006, when Kandahar will be able to accommodate the fixed wing community and allow the RAF Tornado force to take over the detatchment".
It doesn't say who expects this...
Air Forces Monthly says:
" The JFH deployment is expected to continue until December 2006, when Kandahar will be able to accommodate the fixed wing community and allow the RAF Tornado force to take over the detatchment".
It doesn't say who expects this...
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I have AL1 to the said AP. It is a chapter entitled
'We haven't got a clue how many troops we have got, or for that matter, where they are'.
This is in reaction to my F765 submission after I received 3 copies with my name on!!
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'We haven't got a clue how many troops we have got, or for that matter, where they are'.
This is in reaction to my F765 submission after I received 3 copies with my name on!!
Fatbaldandonlyneedonemorecopytoraisemycoffeetable
