Lynx Down on SPTA
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Nottingham UK
Age: 85
Posts: 5,575
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Quote from Totalwar.
"Normally it would be but the British Army don't have any Aircraft engineers...they only have REME"
A totally unecessary remark and insulting remark. Yes I have bitten. Why? Because I find such remarks as offensive REME Aircraft & Avionic Technicians, Artificers and Aircraft Enginneering Officers are selected and trained to the same standards as their Royal Navy and Royal Air Force counterparts. Having supported Army Aviation in the field for many years I have the greatest respect for the work, effort and dedication REME Air has made in maintaining the AAC's aircraft with Flight Safety always being at the forefront.
"Normally it would be but the British Army don't have any Aircraft engineers...they only have REME"
A totally unecessary remark and insulting remark. Yes I have bitten. Why? Because I find such remarks as offensive REME Aircraft & Avionic Technicians, Artificers and Aircraft Enginneering Officers are selected and trained to the same standards as their Royal Navy and Royal Air Force counterparts. Having supported Army Aviation in the field for many years I have the greatest respect for the work, effort and dedication REME Air has made in maintaining the AAC's aircraft with Flight Safety always being at the forefront.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Racedo blows goats
Posts: 677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Another one to rise to the bait
I have been involved in studies of comparative standards of maintenance between different countries operating the same type of aircraft. In the study, it was obvious that the other nations aircraft were in a better state than ours. However, they also had only consumed a third of the flying life in the same service life as ours. Naturally this was matched by the utilisation rate, we generated sorties at 3 times their rate. We did not look at comparative accident rates, had this been more than triple theirs, we would have to worry. Intuitively, I do not believe this to be the case.
You would not expect to see a taxi in the same condition as the car that is used once a week to go to Tesco. If you want shiny pristine cabs, use them less so that they can be valeted more often.
I have been involved in studies of comparative standards of maintenance between different countries operating the same type of aircraft. In the study, it was obvious that the other nations aircraft were in a better state than ours. However, they also had only consumed a third of the flying life in the same service life as ours. Naturally this was matched by the utilisation rate, we generated sorties at 3 times their rate. We did not look at comparative accident rates, had this been more than triple theirs, we would have to worry. Intuitively, I do not believe this to be the case.
You would not expect to see a taxi in the same condition as the car that is used once a week to go to Tesco. If you want shiny pristine cabs, use them less so that they can be valeted more often.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: EGDN
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All power to the mighty Lynx! They are flown and maintained by some of the best aircrew and engineers in the world; these cabs are getting on a bit, but they fly the most demanding sorties in the most difficult conditions and rarely have a technical fault. If they do, then it is usually something that the REME engineers do not have any control over. As with most aspects of aviation, mishaps are caused by human factor issues 80% of the time, but happily, the army aircrews statistics are no worse than any of the other services in the UK. So please guys, don't knock the aircraft, crews or maintainers - they do a great job for Queen and country.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 785
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Cant believe what I'm actually reading from some contributors here.
As a bit of statistical balance. How many Lynx do the RN operate? How many Lynx do the Army operate? What flight profile/conditions/theatre as above? How many hours/airframe?
I have heard some interesting news regarding this accident. Watch future incident signals.
As a bit of statistical balance. How many Lynx do the RN operate? How many Lynx do the Army operate? What flight profile/conditions/theatre as above? How many hours/airframe?
I have heard some interesting news regarding this accident. Watch future incident signals.
Nothing, but nothing, was better than the Scout.......go wash your mouth out with soap and water..........Ken
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Lynx
Scout was okay for the hamfisted. Only had one bed in the back and could not carry as much beer on an Army Air Corps reunion and you could'nt fly the whole trip IMC. So there!
Ham*'@*ingfisted my a*se JB! You only needed 1 bed only 1 pilot. As for IMC unless your talking about ice I can't see the difference. Last time I flew a Lynx with 20mm,ish of ice I was back at 80kts to maintain height and recovering. As for carrying beer do some sums it aint that much different. I agree with Ken JB, go and wash your mouth out with soap and water.
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Scout
Did not know there were any Scout pilots still alive its so old.
Mainly converted bedford drivers to fly it.
You may have been back at 80 kts in the Lynx, in the Scout you would not be here.
It was alright in its day but then technology came along.
Good job its not still in use as they have closed most of the coal mines, so no fuel.
JB
Mainly converted bedford drivers to fly it.
You may have been back at 80 kts in the Lynx, in the Scout you would not be here.
It was alright in its day but then technology came along.
Good job its not still in use as they have closed most of the coal mines, so no fuel.
JB
losers!! 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Andover, Hampshire
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Beagle, there are a few Scouts in the hands of civilians nowadays. There may even be one with the Army Air Corps Historical Flight (if it hasnt been binned due to cuts). I havent seen any civilian Wasps though!!
Jon, you have made your point, and yes, I am an old fart.
You never flew one did you Mighty??
MOSTAFA, you are definately wasting your breath trying to persuade the uninitiated in the way of the Scout.
Jon, you have made your point, and yes, I am an old fart.
You never flew one did you Mighty??
MOSTAFA, you are definately wasting your breath trying to persuade the uninitiated in the way of the Scout.
Gem - Your absolutely right " Once a Scout pilot, always a Scout pilot" yup and very proud of it. As I said my 2000hrs of Scout flying were amongst the very best of a varied (still ongoing) many types career.
Kenny your right remember the old adage "You can't teach pork"
Kenny your right remember the old adage "You can't teach pork"
Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
An input of 'wasp' on G-INFO brought up 6 results;
Registration Serial No. Aircraft Type Photo
G-BYCX F9754 WESTLAND WASP MK1B Yes
G-BZPP F9675 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-CBUI F9590 WESTLAND WASP HAS1
G-KAWW F9663 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-KAXT F9669 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-RIMM F9605 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
Most 'registered' and have 'Display of Registration Mark Exemption' which enables them to have the XTxxx type registration.
SS
Registration Serial No. Aircraft Type Photo
G-BYCX F9754 WESTLAND WASP MK1B Yes
G-BZPP F9675 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-CBUI F9590 WESTLAND WASP HAS1
G-KAWW F9663 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-KAXT F9669 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
G-RIMM F9605 WESTLAND WASP HAS1 Yes
Most 'registered' and have 'Display of Registration Mark Exemption' which enables them to have the XTxxx type registration.
SS