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Auth by some pollie who wants re-election.
Costs an arm and a leg.... as you already guessed. Better yet..... as a tax-payer you pay for it butyou won't see any return when they sell their stories to the tabloids.
Why? Because we are the good guys. If we were like them it'd be a bullet and an unmarked grave. This is why we're gonna lose in the long run.
Costs an arm and a leg.... as you already guessed. Better yet..... as a tax-payer you pay for it butyou won't see any return when they sell their stories to the tabloids.
Why? Because we are the good guys. If we were like them it'd be a bullet and an unmarked grave. This is why we're gonna lose in the long run.
To the tune of Copacabana:
...At the Campa... Camp they called X-Ray...
There was screaming in the air, nobody knew that they were there..
Except for Ozzie...Ozzie Bin-Laden...
Now Ozzies gone and fled, with a price upon his head...
Yes torture and bashin' were always in fashion at the Campa...
...They lost their hair.
(Apologies to Barry)
Feel free to add to the tune, and we can line up on the A40 and sing to them as they land. Then throw flowers at their feet. Then give them lots of our money.
Great stuff.
...At the Campa... Camp they called X-Ray...
There was screaming in the air, nobody knew that they were there..
Except for Ozzie...Ozzie Bin-Laden...
Now Ozzies gone and fled, with a price upon his head...
Yes torture and bashin' were always in fashion at the Campa...
...They lost their hair.
(Apologies to Barry)
Feel free to add to the tune, and we can line up on the A40 and sing to them as they land. Then throw flowers at their feet. Then give them lots of our money.
Great stuff.
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Why is it that all BBC news buletins start with
"The 4 British detainees in Gauanemo Bay"
Instead of
"The muslim terrorists held in Cuba, with British connections, are being returned to the UK to screw for compensation and sponge off the State for ever ?"
PC, Jack Straw, Tony Bliar or what?
Enoch Powell - Love ya man !
"The 4 British detainees in Gauanemo Bay"
Instead of
"The muslim terrorists held in Cuba, with British connections, are being returned to the UK to screw for compensation and sponge off the State for ever ?"
PC, Jack Straw, Tony Bliar or what?
Enoch Powell - Love ya man !
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Forgive me but why do these 'gentlemen' who just happened to be in the combat area of Afghanistan at the time of a major offensive have any claim on the UK? We didn't incarcerate them and were kind enough to fly them home.
If they do make a claim perhaps the cost of their air transport should be deducted from any award.
Hope the sods were made to wait at South Cerney for a few days for no apparent reason!
If they do make a claim perhaps the cost of their air transport should be deducted from any award.
Hope the sods were made to wait at South Cerney for a few days for no apparent reason!
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Erm, because detaining people without trial is illegal.
“Oh by the way we’re gonna arrest you and hold you for 3 years in Cuba”
“On what charges?”
“Sorry old boy, top secret”
“Well, can my lawyer know?”
“What’s a lawyer? Goodbye. Oh, while we’re at it we’re gonna dress you up like Slipknot (Metal band who wear boiler suits and masks- for the oldies amongst you) and mentally torture you. Have fun”
All for (possibly) being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Sure glad it wasn’t me, especially considering Abu Gharib
“Oh by the way we’re gonna arrest you and hold you for 3 years in Cuba”
“On what charges?”
“Sorry old boy, top secret”
“Well, can my lawyer know?”
“What’s a lawyer? Goodbye. Oh, while we’re at it we’re gonna dress you up like Slipknot (Metal band who wear boiler suits and masks- for the oldies amongst you) and mentally torture you. Have fun”
All for (possibly) being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Sure glad it wasn’t me, especially considering Abu Gharib
I would like to think those poor, misunderstood "Britons", who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, are returning to their homeland in a C130. More likely it will be in a C17, which is only marginally less extravagant than the Blairforce One 777.
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Sorry I was confused, I had forgotten that we are the 51st state of the US and 'Gitmo' is our naval base and our detainee camp.
My error, I had thought we were a separate soveriegn state who, whilst holding our own terrorist suspects without trial, are not responsible for the Gitmo camp. Silly me.
Sorry I was confused, I had forgotten that we are the 51st state of the US and 'Gitmo' is our naval base and our detainee camp.
My error, I had thought we were a separate soveriegn state who, whilst holding our own terrorist suspects without trial, are not responsible for the Gitmo camp. Silly me.
The fact that they were locked up without trial is a problem, but the fact that they went to Afganistan to fight the infidels/smite the christians/got involved with a band of terrorists surely must count for something. The Yanks should fly 'em home Conair-style, then they should be incarcerated here and tried under our justice system. No smoke without fire and Puppy next to pile of pooh spring to mind. After all they went out there to kill our soldiers...or??????
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Jung Lee: I wasn’t specifically replying to your post but the original question, apologies for your misunderstanding. 
Regardless of where they are from or what their intentions were, my original point still stands:
Detention without trial is illegal
Regardless of where they are from or what their intentions were, my original point still stands:
Detention without trial is illegal
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Detention without trial is of course illegal. I wonder if that thought crossed Ken Bigley's, Margaret Hassan's, Nick Berg's...................................... etc etc minds as their throats were being cut.
Let's hear a public condemnation of Al Qaeda and the murders committed in the name of Islam from them and their "British" families before they are released. Remember the Black Watch, RMP and many others who paid the ultimate price of the freedom these
will now profit from.
Let's hear a public condemnation of Al Qaeda and the murders committed in the name of Islam from them and their "British" families before they are released. Remember the Black Watch, RMP and many others who paid the ultimate price of the freedom these
will now profit from.
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Im not sure why this is being discussed on this thread but nonetheless I think I agree with most participants in so much as Detention without trial is not the way we do things.
I cannot imagine the shock and horror of being locked up for 3 years without any charges, trial or indeed without anyone explaining what was happening. These guys are British and as such they should be afforded all the compassion they deserve until they have been found guilty of anything. I understand one of the guys was a teacher who was setting up a school for Deaf Children when without warning he is snatched from the comfort and love of his family, transported to the middle of nowhere and left for 3 years. Im sorry guys but thats not the way to behave. If these people have links with terrorism, if they have commited a crime then lets charge them and if found guilty lets throw away the key. BUT, until that time, then they are completely innocent. Thats the way we do it in Britain, thats why our forefathers were prepared to put their lives on the line, thats why our country went to war in 1939.
I cannot imagine the shock and horror of being locked up for 3 years without any charges, trial or indeed without anyone explaining what was happening. These guys are British and as such they should be afforded all the compassion they deserve until they have been found guilty of anything. I understand one of the guys was a teacher who was setting up a school for Deaf Children when without warning he is snatched from the comfort and love of his family, transported to the middle of nowhere and left for 3 years. Im sorry guys but thats not the way to behave. If these people have links with terrorism, if they have commited a crime then lets charge them and if found guilty lets throw away the key. BUT, until that time, then they are completely innocent. Thats the way we do it in Britain, thats why our forefathers were prepared to put their lives on the line, thats why our country went to war in 1939.
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I agree Hyd3. Our predessessors fought to the death against concentration camps and now we are allied with a state that promotes their use. If the 4 are suspected of alligence to terrorist organisations and evidence is available against them, try them and condemn them if found guilty. This must be done in a reasonable timescale. Incarceration without trial goes beyond medieval. We cannot treat people like animals just because the terror groups do.
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