Flt Sgt doing gate guard duty?!
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Flt Sgt doing gate guard duty?!
I was let through the main gate this evening by a Flt Sgt (non-aircrew) doing guard duty. What a sh!t job to get after decades of service. Is it any wonder that so many people are PVR'ing and taking their expertees and experience with them???
Whats the problem, he ain't aircrew so it doesn't matter.
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Sounds like a good bit of man management on the part of the FS then.
Why retain the service of a FS who is maybe near to his pension when you can make the new types feel they are wanted?
Did he volunteer to enable said airmen to go on the hoi?
Why retain the service of a FS who is maybe near to his pension when you can make the new types feel they are wanted?
Did he volunteer to enable said airmen to go on the hoi?
You'll probably find that he was the Guard Commander and was doing an hour on the gate to get away from the smell of stale farts and plated meals in the guard room.
I worked with a Chief Tech who you couldn't get in from the gate. Said it was his best chance to catch up with everyone he knew on the unit!
I worked with a Chief Tech who you couldn't get in from the gate. Said it was his best chance to catch up with everyone he knew on the unit!
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SSgt A2 QHI at Shawbury - I regularly had to ditch my students and take 24 hours off to sit in that sh*tty little guard room 
- It used to drive the CO of 705 Sqn nuts.... and why was I there? The dullard RAFP Cpls needed a SNCO to clear their weapons when they came off shift! It was around about this time that I was asked if I was going to extend my service... 
Byeeee.
- It used to drive the CO of 705 Sqn nuts.... and why was I there? The dullard RAFP Cpls needed a SNCO to clear their weapons when they came off shift! It was around about this time that I was asked if I was going to extend my service... Byeeee.
However, some units which have few junior ranks have SNCO's as guard and if there is more than one FS on guard shift, then one is Guard commander and others will be guards.
Its been like that at Wyton for years.
Its been like that at Wyton for years.
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If we've got SNCO's doing guard duty, does this mean that the O's will start doing guard commander
Yeah, right, what was I thinking of!
Mind you, if OC Blunt see's this..........
Yeah, right, what was I thinking of!
Mind you, if OC Blunt see's this..........
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ZH,
And us dung chompers thought we had it bad!!
I seem to remember Sgts on pilot courses had to do Gd Comd. At least the RSM would never let SNCO's do the RAFP resettlement course- gate goes up, gate goes down.
Its been like that at Wyton for years.
I seem to remember Sgts on pilot courses had to do Gd Comd. At least the RSM would never let SNCO's do the RAFP resettlement course- gate goes up, gate goes down.
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Guard Duty Problems
You won't believe this.
Not long off flying course in RAAF and now a bogey fighter pilot on Mustangs at Iwakuni in Japan. Rank was Pilot 4, equivalent corporal but entitled to use of Sgt's mess. Stupid post WW2 RAF NCO ranking system adopted by RAAF for a while.
Korean war had started and am now flying combat ops. Adminos had been rostering us bogeys for guard duty before the war. Very quickly fronted up to the CO with the proposition that we either do guard duty or fly. We flew.
You won't believe this.
Not long off flying course in RAAF and now a bogey fighter pilot on Mustangs at Iwakuni in Japan. Rank was Pilot 4, equivalent corporal but entitled to use of Sgt's mess. Stupid post WW2 RAF NCO ranking system adopted by RAAF for a while.
Korean war had started and am now flying combat ops. Adminos had been rostering us bogeys for guard duty before the war. Very quickly fronted up to the CO with the proposition that we either do guard duty or fly. We flew.
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If we've got SNCO's doing guard duty, does this mean that the O's will start doing guard commander
Yes! I believe some lucky, lucky people off my IOT were sent to hold before specialist training - at Digby, as Guard Commander!
BCH
Up until recently on Christmas Day the Stn Execs used to cover the Gate between 12 & 2 so that the guys could get their Xmas Dinner, was a good touch much appreciated by all at Shawbury. PS it's not a bad idea for NCA to do some guard duty, they know very little about service life, they don't even do IMLC or AMLC.
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Officers as Guard Commander?
Been there done that and seen it since. Not just for 'holding offrs' either. At my last Unit it was a joint requirement to be picked up by the JOs and the SNCOs.
Glad to see that most of our guards are now MoD Guard Service.
STH
Been there done that and seen it since. Not just for 'holding offrs' either. At my last Unit it was a joint requirement to be picked up by the JOs and the SNCOs.
Glad to see that most of our guards are now MoD Guard Service.
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KPax, agree that NCA should do Guard Duty as some, but not all, are direct entrants. However, a large proportion including myself are former ground trades and have already done our fair share of this stuff. Yes we have not done IMLC or JMLC as ground trades do, but as my wife has just completed IMLC I find that our courses at Finningley/Cranwell are comparable and physically much harder. 
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Up until recently on Christmas Day the Stn Execs used to cover the Gate between 12 & 2 so that the guys could get their Xmas Dinner, was a good touch much appreciated by all at Shawbury.
Clearly they don't make Station Execs like they used to......