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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 14:46
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:06
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What is it ?

THIS IS NOT A CAPTION

Seaplane (and submarine). Can anybody identify either (or both) , please ?
 
Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Danny42C
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Seaplane (and submarine). Can anybody identify either (or both) , please ?
Wikipedia says submarine M2 and a Pagnell Peto seaplane.

https://en.www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su...rcraft_carrier
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:26
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Stupid phone won't edit post, that should be Parnall Peto and link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submar...rcraft_carrier
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:34
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ALSO NOT A CAPTION

In my browser (Chrome) you can right-click on an image and hit "Search Google for this image". That generally (but not always) takes you in the right direction, especially if one of the links is on Wikipedia.
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:40
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Not a caption

She sank with all hands Danny, it is believed they either opened the hangar door before it fully surfaced and the hatch to the sub was open, there was speculation that she may have suffered from escaping gas, possibly from the batteries so was making an emergency ascent, or dived.
There are films of the wreck on YouTube showing the hangar doors open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UJIyen6p18
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 15:50
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The sub is HMS M2, one of three of the 'M' class, which was originally built as a submarine monitor, mounting a battleship's 12 inch gun. It was launched in 1919.
The 'M' class were large submarines for their time, being around 300ft long and displacing 2000 tons submerged.

In 1927, HMS M2 was converted to a 'submarine aircraft carrier' by removing the gun and replacing it with the watertight hangar.
A year later, the pneumatic catapult was fitted, allowing the aircraft to be launched directly from the deck.

The aircraft is a Parnall Peto, powered by an Armstrong-Siddeley Mongoose 5 cyl radial and was specially designed for the M2.

The sub was lost in January 1932 in an accident which was thought to have been caused by the hangar door being prematurely opened.
All 60 crew were killed.
She lies in about 100ft of water at West Bay, Dorset and is a popular dive-site.


EDIT: Oh dear, everybody got in before my one-finger typing could get me there. Pish!
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 16:40
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 16:53
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The aircraft is a Parnall Peto
Peto in Italian means fart.
Just sayin'

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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 16:59
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OK, the launch went well, next time we will start the engine first
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 17:05
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"Now we have got that damned aircraft out of he way, Prepare to launch Thunderbird 4"
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 17:07
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 18:01
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Thanks, Chaps !

THIS IS NOT A CAPTION

My thanks to all of you who so quickly answered my appeal for an ident. The tragedy of the sinking is eerily reminiscent of the "Thetis" loss in Liverpool Bay in 1939.

That loss (Wiki has a full report) was excusable to some extent, in that a check of the torpedo tube inner door was made (by opening a check valve to a narrow bore tube through it). But the narrow bore tube was blocked with paint and no water squirted through..... Satisfied, the rating opened the inner door. The outer tube door was open, too.......

But it hard to see how the M2 was taken down with hangar doors open (shades of the "Herald of Free Enterprise" in Zeebrugge in 1986).

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"I think we may have a problem, Sir. The pilot's tripped over the launch lever."
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 18:47
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"What's the crane for on that Irish sub?"
"It's to assist lifting themselves to the surface, due to the effect of the extra weight of the crane on the buoyancy system"
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 19:35
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Very early trials of the mission kit to be used in MRA4....


"Submarine - what submarine?"
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 19:57
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"No, we put out a big butterfly net from it and try to catch the aircraft in it each time it comes round !"
 
Old 22nd Jun 2016, 20:18
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Is it a still from the end of the next Bond movie?
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Old 23rd Jun 2016, 07:41
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I think we've pretty much blown the tanks on this one - I'll call a winner sometime around Four Bells (cet), so still a chance to vent that last bit of humour

As others have rightly said, the picture is of the M2, which sank with the loss of the entire crew of 60, and only two bodies were ever recovered.

The wreck is designated as a "protected place",and I had the good fortune to dive the site some years back. She sits in about 30-35m of water, so technically not a difficult dive (well, until the tide starts running) but one that I found fascinating and was surprised at the good condition of the hull and tower after some 75 years down there.

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