Nimrod Display Team
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During my 2 seasons with the Nimrod Display, '89 and '90, the flare was popped off at the top of the final wing-over. Even then, it managed to hit the ground alight once, just by 9 brightly painted red Hawks I seem to remember!!!
During my 2 seasons with the Nimrod Display, '89 and '90, the flare was popped off at the top of the final wing-over. Even then, it managed to hit the ground alight once, just by 9 brightly painted red Hawks I seem to remember!!!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
The one display crew ethos has been around a lot longer than the Canada crash. On the might V Strike Command had one display crew and NEAF had another. Unfortunately the NEAF display circuit was rather limited, certainly early in the season.
Only venue we could find was Ohakea! Not only that but it took about 2 an half weeks with ferry crews taking the jet to and from Tengah. We dropped it off on the way home and missed the weekly UK bound 10 by oh, about 10 minutes. Had to stay downtown Singapore for a week. Tough life.
Only venue we could find was Ohakea! Not only that but it took about 2 an half weeks with ferry crews taking the jet to and from Tengah. We dropped it off on the way home and missed the weekly UK bound 10 by oh, about 10 minutes. Had to stay downtown Singapore for a week. Tough life.
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Until the demise of the HS748 from Her Majesty's Australian Air Corps order of battle there was the Howlettes. For those not in the know, the name is a dig at the Roulettes, the official RAAF display team. The Howlettes diplay comprised of three (sometimes, my God, four) 748's in close(ish) form at zot feet (er, 500 AGL) and close to Vne (a mighty 260KIAS). Let me tell you, three (or four) 40,000lb dog whistles in close form was quite a sight. They were billed as the world's only "straight and level aerobatic team"
To answer the original question, as no one else has, they were disbanded because the Ist Pilot and Co Pilot (allegedly) fell out big time. Rather than sorting out their flying issues professionally, one went behind the other's back to the Boss, with the end result being that one wouldn't fly with the other. Very sad, very unnecessary and very unprofessional. Nuff said.
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Seems pretty professional to me. Last thing you need on a display crew is guys who can't get on with each other - we've crashed enough display aircraft over the years because of poor supervision - the boss/supervisor has every right to know if the guys have a personality clash.
I'm glad jacob said that, because I've been sitting here thinking "What else could he have done?" I have been in a comparable situation, and if it is not possible to resolve the issue between the individuals, someone has to say "I'm not willing to fly with him". That is a matter for the Boss.
"Very sad" - yes, but unnecessary and unprofessional - No.
"Very sad" - yes, but unnecessary and unprofessional - No.
Avtur,
Not a flame, a question if i may.
What would you have done if you were the boss?
I don't think there was much of a decision to make, theres enough scattered bits of display aircraft lying around to make close supervision and ultra cautious decision making a must.
Not a flame, a question if i may.
What would you have done if you were the boss?
I don't think there was much of a decision to make, theres enough scattered bits of display aircraft lying around to make close supervision and ultra cautious decision making a must.
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That souds perfectly acceptable behaviour to me. If there is any sort of personality problem with ANY of the crew (including ratings and NCO's) then the crew should not be allowed to fly together and if that meant pulling the display team then so be it. The fact that the boss pulled the team from the display season may well have saved their lives.
..."one went behind the other's back to the Boss" was the bit I found unprofessional. Thought they should have been big enough to discuss these things face to face. Obviously if the problems couldnt be resolved then you dont fly.
