Network Centric Warfare +UCB's
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Network Centric Warfare +UCB's
Can anyone tell me what Network Centric Warfare is? Or give me some info on it? Been told to research it for my OASC interview at the end of next month and at present it means nothing to be whatsoever! Also the mention of UCB's, which again means even less to me than NCW! Can anyone enlighten me?!
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As are the days when an HF hand speed morse link that worked for a couple of hours at night was reckoned to be the height of communications sophistication.
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Try "Network Enabled Capability," the UK version, also known as Not Enough Cash!
You should at least cast your eyes over the defence white paper. I wouldn't believe it, but at least understand and repeat at the appropriate time!
You should at least cast your eyes over the defence white paper. I wouldn't believe it, but at least understand and repeat at the appropriate time!
NCW and UCB are both examples of the worst TLA pieces of jargon-speak. Regrettably, this sort of cr@p spews out of unworthy, expensive and totally over-rated ivory towers such as AWC and that purple pratt-palace near Watchfield with predictable regularity. Whereas, in fact, any communications system, whether speckled Jim or gucci noughts-and-ones jobber, is inherently a SFS.
It's all to do with trying to replace people and jets with computers, in order to save cash. Most of it is utter sci-fi bolleaux, but it keeps QUANGOs such as KwintyKwoo - aka QueerA - in business sucking funds from do-able real world projects.
If you can keep a straight face, swot up from http://www.ucb.co.uk/ so that if some DORIS-tart asks you what you know about UCBs, you can surprise them!
Alteratively, just try: "Look, you f*ckwit, I just want to fly cool jets and go bomb people. Stop ar$eing about with triv, sign me up so I can go and sink a few beers with the real aircrew mates and not bore my tits off having to suffer you desk-sucking blotter jotter PONTIs with your scribbldegook and numptyspeak which means f*ck all in the real world!"
It's all to do with trying to replace people and jets with computers, in order to save cash. Most of it is utter sci-fi bolleaux, but it keeps QUANGOs such as KwintyKwoo - aka QueerA - in business sucking funds from do-able real world projects.
If you can keep a straight face, swot up from http://www.ucb.co.uk/ so that if some DORIS-tart asks you what you know about UCBs, you can surprise them!
Alteratively, just try: "Look, you f*ckwit, I just want to fly cool jets and go bomb people. Stop ar$eing about with triv, sign me up so I can go and sink a few beers with the real aircrew mates and not bore my tits off having to suffer you desk-sucking blotter jotter PONTIs with your scribbldegook and numptyspeak which means f*ck all in the real world!"
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The really sad thing is that the youth of today are expected to be talking in these nonsensical, PC, w*nkspeak TLAs at their first interview, for God's sake.
What ever happened to recruiting guys/lasses who were bright, good at sport, keen to get on and reasonably articulate?
What ever happened to recruiting guys/lasses who were bright, good at sport, keen to get on and reasonably articulate?
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Thanks for the help guys - really appreciated. Didn't realise NCW was the US version and that NEC is the UK version - will only be looking into the UK one! I've added it to the pile of other reading I need to get done, there is SO much I don't even know where to start. Having been last year I can judge on somethings I can get away with not knowing (which isn't much!).
BEagle - sometimes I wish I could sit in the interview and recite you're speech, however, don't think they'd appreciate it!
And airborne artist, I am 100% with you on that one, it really is riduculous when you look at it....sport used to be a major thing in the RAF, but now, it seems it doesn't count for much & if you don't play a team sport it is often frowned upon as it's not enhancing you're team work capabilities! So many things are over-looked these days...it makes me SO cross!!
Oh well.....I MUST stay positive & finger's crossed for second time lucky!
Cheers again. Littleme
BEagle - sometimes I wish I could sit in the interview and recite you're speech, however, don't think they'd appreciate it!
And airborne artist, I am 100% with you on that one, it really is riduculous when you look at it....sport used to be a major thing in the RAF, but now, it seems it doesn't count for much & if you don't play a team sport it is often frowned upon as it's not enhancing you're team work capabilities! So many things are over-looked these days...it makes me SO cross!!
Oh well.....I MUST stay positive & finger's crossed for second time lucky!
Cheers again. Littleme
Considering the time of your post Beags I'm guessing that you had been drinking for some considerable time. Quite an unusually lengthy and verbal diatribe from your good self. I always thought you fell into the camp that said why use 50 words when you can use 3. "It's all w*nk!"
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Oh dear, I "work", at a desk that sucks, in one of those "over rated" ivory tower places, well one parents us anyway, and I don't really understand what Network Enabled Capability is either. So I asked a very clever wg cdr fast jet aircrew mate and he said something very like BEagle did (with expletives that I hadn't heard for years) but added that only one country in the world actually possessed NEC of a sorts and it wasn't the UK!
Regarding sport, Airborne Artist, you know that I have always been frightened of participating in it, even when I was in the Grey Funnel Line all those years ago(!) but I quite like watching this Olympic girls volleyball stuff!
Regarding sport, Airborne Artist, you know that I have always been frightened of participating in it, even when I was in the Grey Funnel Line all those years ago(!) but I quite like watching this Olympic girls volleyball stuff!
whenwherewhywhathtef*ck, no you libellous so-and-so, I had most certainly not been drinking for quite a while!
More like drowning in a sea of despair after learning that aircrew selection nowadays seems to require knowledge of the esoteric and arcane gibberish spouted by purple pratt-palace people.
I seem to recall being asked a bit about the Borneo confrontation, plus identify a Victor on the wall photo. The group sessions were fun - used a bit of the 'pose, pause, pounce' I'd been taught as a CCF signals instructor which got the interviewers' attention.
But nothing whatever about BMCs, PDAs, RSJs or whatever that TLA was.
"Enjoy the CCF?" "Yes sir - except the hairy battledress. Far sooner wear a flying suit!"
"Hmmph. Play sport?" "Yes sir, but chasing balls about in the mud on freezing cold days doesn't actually appeal that much"
"So what does appeal to you?" "Flying an RAF fighter, sir!"
That was back in the days before they stopped asking direct questions!
Yup - when were you born? So how old does that make you in years and months? What means of transport did you use to get to school? All those old chestnuts are no doubt still being asked!
More like drowning in a sea of despair after learning that aircrew selection nowadays seems to require knowledge of the esoteric and arcane gibberish spouted by purple pratt-palace people.
I seem to recall being asked a bit about the Borneo confrontation, plus identify a Victor on the wall photo. The group sessions were fun - used a bit of the 'pose, pause, pounce' I'd been taught as a CCF signals instructor which got the interviewers' attention.
But nothing whatever about BMCs, PDAs, RSJs or whatever that TLA was.
"Enjoy the CCF?" "Yes sir - except the hairy battledress. Far sooner wear a flying suit!"
"Hmmph. Play sport?" "Yes sir, but chasing balls about in the mud on freezing cold days doesn't actually appeal that much"
"So what does appeal to you?" "Flying an RAF fighter, sir!"
That was back in the days before they stopped asking direct questions!
Yup - when were you born? So how old does that make you in years and months? What means of transport did you use to get to school? All those old chestnuts are no doubt still being asked!
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Agreed, you were never the keen sporting type, but your stout physique provided you with plenty of warmth on the aircrew survival course, while the Welsh racing snake succumbed to hypothermia on the second night and proceeded to grizzle his way through the rest of the week.
You as I recall chortled your way through the New Forest stroll, lost an admirable 14 pounds, and swiftly replaced it with copious quantities of Sam Smiths once we arrived at Leeming.
Agreed, you were never the keen sporting type, but your stout physique provided you with plenty of warmth on the aircrew survival course, while the Welsh racing snake succumbed to hypothermia on the second night and proceeded to grizzle his way through the rest of the week.
You as I recall chortled your way through the New Forest stroll, lost an admirable 14 pounds, and swiftly replaced it with copious quantities of Sam Smiths once we arrived at Leeming.
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You're out of date, I'm afraid Beags. OASC stopped asking "How old does that make you in years and months" ages ago ( at least 3 years!). And now they've stopped asking what your Mum and Dad do, and how many siblings you have (Infringment of privacy, or something!!)
So what 'settling in' questions do DORIS-tarts ask nowadays? Explain the linkage between network centric warfighting and Pythagorean metampsychosis?
I did a station commissioning board once. Some anal blunt pratt asked the very smart young SNCO sitting in his best blue who was the boss of Norway.....
As a famous, sadly now dead, ex-CFS Commandant once said "Just ask 'em if they want to fly green aeroplanes which kill people!".
I did a station commissioning board once. Some anal blunt pratt asked the very smart young SNCO sitting in his best blue who was the boss of Norway.....
As a famous, sadly now dead, ex-CFS Commandant once said "Just ask 'em if they want to fly green aeroplanes which kill people!".
And as one of the pratts at the purple palace, I have a very similar tale to Ted's.
Mention of NEC is usually accompanied by profanities, the questionning of the parentage of those who proclaim the virtues of NEC, reference to the technological marvel of BOWMAN, reference to 'no cash' , outbreaks of deep sarcasm etc, etc, etc.
IF you have the money, NEC is great. If you don't, it's merely the smokescreen behind which the Secretary of State for Defence can disguise defence cuts* while trying to claim that this is appropriate realignment of defence spending to invest in excting new technology that no-one outside the world of defence (i.e. 99% of the electorate) really understands.
(*I'm sorry, even if the funding has increased, losing four FJ units ahead of time, four army rgts and £1.1 Billion from the SH budget is a cut in my book!).
Mention of NEC is usually accompanied by profanities, the questionning of the parentage of those who proclaim the virtues of NEC, reference to the technological marvel of BOWMAN, reference to 'no cash' , outbreaks of deep sarcasm etc, etc, etc.
IF you have the money, NEC is great. If you don't, it's merely the smokescreen behind which the Secretary of State for Defence can disguise defence cuts* while trying to claim that this is appropriate realignment of defence spending to invest in excting new technology that no-one outside the world of defence (i.e. 99% of the electorate) really understands.
(*I'm sorry, even if the funding has increased, losing four FJ units ahead of time, four army rgts and £1.1 Billion from the SH budget is a cut in my book!).
Ah - but Archie (that Archie??), you don't understand. No doubt pr00ne will soon be along with one of his former Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf 'Comical Ali' explanations about how his New Labour luvvies haven't cut anything at all..... 
Lots of stuff on NEC at the MOD Website
...although how we can produce systems that talk to one another from organisations that don't is beyond me...
...although how we can produce systems that talk to one another from organisations that don't is beyond me...