B-52 bombs Blackbushe
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Once again this shows the world just how much faith we should have in the American military!
They may be the most powerful military in the world but this is just down to their shear size, not their intelligence.
It seems strange as they managed to get it right on Monday as I was there!
BWB
They may be the most powerful military in the world but this is just down to their shear size, not their intelligence.
It seems strange as they managed to get it right on Monday as I was there!
BWB
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I can get a Cessna across the featureless Aussie outback to a dirt strip on some pastoral station at the right point on the map, at the right time AND do a descent profile as well. All this on a Garmin 195.
Now correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought that the Buff had the capability of flying 9 million miles from the good 'ol US of A, dropping a precision bomb through a given pane in a given window and saving the world before returning back home for kor-fee and medals. And yet it mistakes Blackbushe for Farnborough??!!!!
I'm sure that there is a very good reason which some USAF type will eventually divulge but it's sure got me beat at the moment.
Now correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought that the Buff had the capability of flying 9 million miles from the good 'ol US of A, dropping a precision bomb through a given pane in a given window and saving the world before returning back home for kor-fee and medals. And yet it mistakes Blackbushe for Farnborough??!!!!
I'm sure that there is a very good reason which some USAF type will eventually divulge but it's sure got me beat at the moment.
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IO: Whilst your sentiment may be above reproach, I'm not sure what relevance it has to this story.
How does a crew in a (relatively) modern aircraft on a nice day in peacetime missing an airfield for a fly past compare with bomber crews 60 years ago operating over enemy territory and being shot at not making it back?
Surely we're not heading down the road of 'The USA helped us win the War so we mustn't take the mickey', are we??!
How does a crew in a (relatively) modern aircraft on a nice day in peacetime missing an airfield for a fly past compare with bomber crews 60 years ago operating over enemy territory and being shot at not making it back?
Surely we're not heading down the road of 'The USA helped us win the War so we mustn't take the mickey', are we??!
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Tabs please !
Yup, the BUFF (Big Ugly Fat ) did an orbit over Hook and then performed a couple of turns over Farnborough before lumbering off back West. It should land in Canada in around seven hours
errr, B Fraser, it came over my head here in W Berks about an hour ago at 5000', on it's way back into Fairford (now FFD and BZN are pretty close together too.....no, stop it!)
Sounds like he was receiving lots of radar vectors from those awfully nice Farnborough radar people today! (a lot of these presumably delaying tactics, as he was a bit early)
Sounds like he was receiving lots of radar vectors from those awfully nice Farnborough radar people today! (a lot of these presumably delaying tactics, as he was a bit early)
That BUFF's probably graced this world longer than its crew has, they should listen to their elders and let it fly itself. Just hope it's updated it's list of active airfields or it'll be making for Greenham!
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Mmmmmm. Have just heard Geoff Hoon talking about the defence cuts announced today. He was waffling on about perceived threats and so an, and said that in the future we will be joining forces with the Americans to see off the hordes wherever that threat might come from. It really gives me a warm glow to know that the safest place to be in the future is not in the middle of the bullseye. John Farley said that radio was the way to do it...well, they were obviously talking to somebody, but ignoring them. Anybody in London Mil care to comment.??
Ignition Overide Smug observations.?? You mean that we should not comment on this.?? It kinda explains some of the "Friendly Fire" problems in wars various. I am not saying that we Brits are immune to such problems, but this is a serious incident, if not from an Air Traffic point of view (Traffic out of Blackbushe + London) then from the wider issues explored by posters in this Forum under your definition of "Smug Observations".
Ignition Overide Smug observations.?? You mean that we should not comment on this.?? It kinda explains some of the "Friendly Fire" problems in wars various. I am not saying that we Brits are immune to such problems, but this is a serious incident, if not from an Air Traffic point of view (Traffic out of Blackbushe + London) then from the wider issues explored by posters in this Forum under your definition of "Smug Observations".
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F111s at MAN
Yes I remember the pair of USAF swing wings that beat up MAN instead of Woodford, it was a good job that the airport had nothing on approach at the time as they arrived totally un announced on MANS centreline. At Woodford spectators scoured the skys as the tannoy announced the imminent arrival from the east, all that was heard was a distant roar about 5 miles north !!
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Pilots not perfect?
I can't even spell manoeuvre (and neither can the Americans)
Best thread for ages, Mrs Lovechild keeps asking me why I'm guffaw-ing at my screen.
Go on Ascoteers. (Wycombe's post on page 2) Someone tell the whole story about the Herc landing at the wrong airfield. Staish wasn't it? E- catted the rest of the crew?
I can't even spell manoeuvre (and neither can the Americans)
Best thread for ages, Mrs Lovechild keeps asking me why I'm guffaw-ing at my screen.
Go on Ascoteers. (Wycombe's post on page 2) Someone tell the whole story about the Herc landing at the wrong airfield. Staish wasn't it? E- catted the rest of the crew?
No, more like YOUR pilots are far from perfect!
Last time I did a Fanboro' flypast, we checked the waypoints needed for a good run-in, checked that we wouldn't savage Lasham, Odiahm or anywhere else, built in a hold, departed at the right time to make out own IP, then adjusted speed to make our TOT at the appointed hour.
In a 30 year old tanker.
This B-52 incident is utterly unforgiveable. Stupid amateur effort.
Last time I did a Fanboro' flypast, we checked the waypoints needed for a good run-in, checked that we wouldn't savage Lasham, Odiahm or anywhere else, built in a hold, departed at the right time to make out own IP, then adjusted speed to make our TOT at the appointed hour.
In a 30 year old tanker.
This B-52 incident is utterly unforgiveable. Stupid amateur effort.
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The usual silence from the offenders in this amaturish event - God help all ANYWHERE in Iraq (or the neighbouring countries!!!)
What's the difference between a US Navigator and a Boy Scout, the boy Scout had some training, but less medals were awarded
What's the difference between a US Navigator and a Boy Scout, the boy Scout had some training, but less medals were awarded