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In the case of Kinloss, it's the inability to have a life when on a maritime sqn. that's the killer to being "up here". Not easy to escape that bl**dy Ops 'phone call....
Move Sentry/Sentinel to Kinloss. Move Kipper fleet to Waddington.
And if any Sentry/Sentinel types complain...what's wrong with Kinloss?
In the case of Kinloss, it's the inability to have a life when on a maritime sqn. that's the killer to being "up here". Not easy to escape that bl**dy Ops 'phone call....
Move Sentry/Sentinel to Kinloss. Move Kipper fleet to Waddington.
And if any Sentry/Sentinel types complain...what's wrong with Kinloss?
I agree with MM
The Lossie/Kinloss area is one of the nicest places to live in the UK. The weather factor is good, the people are friendly and where else in the UK can you let your kids roam free in the knowledge that the are perfectly safe as at least 200 hundred villagers, who you know and talk to, are keeping an eye on them as they play in the gorse and fields.
Housing is not expensive and traffic jams are unheard of (Elgins's rush hour lasts 15 mins). I have been based at Gutersloh, Brawdy, Chivenor, Benson and Odiham and think that overall the quality of life up here (yes I retired here with a Scottish wife and daughter but a very english son who speaks with a scottish accent!!) is the best of all with Chivenor coming a near second and Brawdy - well enough said the Welsh are a funny lot and my Mum was Welsh!!
HF
The Lossie/Kinloss area is one of the nicest places to live in the UK. The weather factor is good, the people are friendly and where else in the UK can you let your kids roam free in the knowledge that the are perfectly safe as at least 200 hundred villagers, who you know and talk to, are keeping an eye on them as they play in the gorse and fields.
Housing is not expensive and traffic jams are unheard of (Elgins's rush hour lasts 15 mins). I have been based at Gutersloh, Brawdy, Chivenor, Benson and Odiham and think that overall the quality of life up here (yes I retired here with a Scottish wife and daughter but a very english son who speaks with a scottish accent!!) is the best of all with Chivenor coming a near second and Brawdy - well enough said the Welsh are a funny lot and my Mum was Welsh!!
HF
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The Ministry of Defence is searching for a publicly acceptable solution for disposing of 27 highly radioactive submarine reactors, each twice as high as a double decker bus.
In a clear acknowledgment that it is running out of time and space to moor the redundant submarines, the MoD consulted the residents of two dockyard towns about what to do with the rusting hulks that were once the pride of the Royal Navy.
Seven hulks are at Rosyth dockyard in Fife and four at Devonport in Plymouth. They have had the nuclear fuel rods taken out but remain potentially dangerous and everyone accepts that they cannot be left to rot.
The urgency is that more of the 16 nuclear submarines still at sea are coming to the end of their lives and by 2012 there will be no mooring space left.
The answer.........................Put all this junk at Kinloss
The radiation may mutate the locals back to humans.
In a clear acknowledgment that it is running out of time and space to moor the redundant submarines, the MoD consulted the residents of two dockyard towns about what to do with the rusting hulks that were once the pride of the Royal Navy.
Seven hulks are at Rosyth dockyard in Fife and four at Devonport in Plymouth. They have had the nuclear fuel rods taken out but remain potentially dangerous and everyone accepts that they cannot be left to rot.
The urgency is that more of the 16 nuclear submarines still at sea are coming to the end of their lives and by 2012 there will be no mooring space left.
The answer.........................Put all this junk at Kinloss
The radiation may mutate the locals back to humans.
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It'd be a bit difficult to reopen Greenham Common - there's damn all of it left, unless you count the Elementary School and very cleverly, the LEA didn't grab that when they could. It was probably the best maintained school in Berkshire!
It'd be a bit difficult to reopen Greenham Common - there's damn all of it left, unless you count the Elementary School and very cleverly, the LEA didn't grab that when they could. It was probably the best maintained school in Berkshire!
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Well said Mad Mark, Hummingfrog. The majority of open minded people up here at Kinloss do love the place......trouble is you will only hear from:
a. The whingeing minoirty (who will generally whinge wherever they are)
b. Those who have been here once (for a day) or not at all, and are incidentally experts about all the Nimrod fleet does, and don't understand why anybody would want to go there.
You can stick St Mawgan thanks very much. I like my clean air, low house prices, open spaces and good whisky.
Why wasn't his thread started as a "who is happy where they are?" If you don't like where you are then do something about it (other than whinge).
Rant over.
Oh, i do hate Valley though.
a. The whingeing minoirty (who will generally whinge wherever they are)
b. Those who have been here once (for a day) or not at all, and are incidentally experts about all the Nimrod fleet does, and don't understand why anybody would want to go there.
You can stick St Mawgan thanks very much. I like my clean air, low house prices, open spaces and good whisky.
Why wasn't his thread started as a "who is happy where they are?" If you don't like where you are then do something about it (other than whinge).
Rant over.
Oh, i do hate Valley though.
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I agree with you Difar69. What pisses me off are the people who slag off Kinloss (cos its a RAF cliche) having never been based there! I mean, Training Risky slagging the place off because he pax'd on a boring Ops/CT... get a life.
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It's true.
Tell people you live in Oxfordshire and they'll say ' Oxford, nice, better than Valley/ Kinloss etc '. To be honest, I find Oxford very overrated and dirty as well as boring, overpriced and hard to park in.
There's a lot of " Thought Inertia " these days (like that ?! It's a new management phrase I've coined !!) " People repeating what they hear as they have neither the inclination or strength of character to say what they actually think. Annoying.
Tell people you live in Oxfordshire and they'll say ' Oxford, nice, better than Valley/ Kinloss etc '. To be honest, I find Oxford very overrated and dirty as well as boring, overpriced and hard to park in.
There's a lot of " Thought Inertia " these days (like that ?! It's a new management phrase I've coined !!) " People repeating what they hear as they have neither the inclination or strength of character to say what they actually think. Annoying.
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Yes - Oxford is full of aggressive beggars, dribbling winos, crocodiles of foreign pickpockets masquerading as schoolkids on language exchange visits, it has expensive car parking and a frankly bizarre road system - and they still haven't managed to sort out the Cornmarket after wasting millions on lunatic resurfacing schemes..... We're run by a nanny county council which hates cars and inflicts speed limits everywhere, choosing to waste copious amounts of money instead on absurd bicycle schemes.......
So it's a good job that the rest of Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds is so much nicer than the so-called 'dreaming spires'!
So it's a good job that the rest of Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds is so much nicer than the so-called 'dreaming spires'!
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FYI Cattivo, I actually took that pax trip while I was holding at Lossie for a 7 week stint. Not a long time I think you will agree, but long enough to get to know a little of the area.... and while the natural scenery was suberb, the only thing the Lossie/Kinloss area had going for it was Inverness airport and the A9 southbound.
I don't see the value of keeping open a single-issue station like Kinloss when it's raison d'etre consists of the rotting shells of Russian submarines, tied up at Murmansk. (And are they a threat now?)
(Oh alright then, long-range SAR cover as well.)
I don't see the value of keeping open a single-issue station like Kinloss when it's raison d'etre consists of the rotting shells of Russian submarines, tied up at Murmansk. (And are they a threat now?)
(Oh alright then, long-range SAR cover as well.)
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Re-open Hendon.
Not that I'm desperate to have an airfield on my doorstep-it's just that a runway would be architecturally more pleasing than the monstrosity of Grahame Park.
PS what is the purpose of Bentley Priory?
(The lightning gate guard would look nice in my garden)
Not that I'm desperate to have an airfield on my doorstep-it's just that a runway would be architecturally more pleasing than the monstrosity of Grahame Park.
PS what is the purpose of Bentley Priory?
(The lightning gate guard would look nice in my garden)
Using that logic most of the RAF's business today is east of Akrotiri, so why don't we close all UK bases and re-open all the ones we abandoned in the Middle East!!
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Bentley P is the location for the monthly dinners of the Air Force Board! Cracking Mess old chep, very handy for town dontcher know! Can't possibly close it!
Bentley P is the location for the monthly dinners of the Air Force Board! Cracking Mess old chep, very handy for town dontcher know! Can't possibly close it!