As I was selling Poppies,
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As I was selling Poppies,
As I was selling Poppies today I struck up a conversation with a lady who is the grandaughter of the late John Henry (Jack) Williams VC. Her story of her Grandad seemed incredible so I googled the name when I got home. Incredible doesn't come close to describing this mans amazing exploits.
I'd post a link if I only knew how?
I'd post a link if I only knew how?
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endplay, allow me.
Jack_Williams VC DCM MM & Bar(Wikipedia)
An extract:
Jack_Williams VC DCM MM & Bar(Wikipedia)
An extract:
In 1919 he received the VC, DCM, MM and Bar from King George V, the first time that the King had decorated the same man four times in one day.
At the time of the investiture Williams had not recovered from his severe wounds, and during the presentation the wound in his arm opened up with the result that medical attention had to be given before he could leave the palace.
At the time of the investiture Williams had not recovered from his severe wounds, and during the presentation the wound in his arm opened up with the result that medical attention had to be given before he could leave the palace.
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Please note the Governor General of Australia, Quentin Bryce, the Queen's representative for Australia is NOT wearing a poppy
And neither is the Prime Minister of Australia, Jooliar Gillard. On behalf of all Australians I apologise for the appalling bad manners of these two individuals. It is also worthy of note that the Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott WAS wearing a poppy.
And neither is the Prime Minister of Australia, Jooliar Gillard. On behalf of all Australians I apologise for the appalling bad manners of these two individuals. It is also worthy of note that the Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott WAS wearing a poppy.
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More to the point, why are all the security [for Gillard one presumes] looking INWARDS?
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Re Quentin, it is probably a family name.
Re not wearing poppies, it might have something to do with protocol
as it is unlikely the GG makes that mistake.
For your info, this GG is very good, very hard working and
very committed to supporting troops. In fact an article in
the media the other day due to the fact she has had her term extended by 6 months (due to when our election falls), it listed the number of events, functions and trips she had done since taking office and the question was
asked "does she ever take holidays" !!!
She has also been to the front line in Afghanistan a couple of times.
Re not wearing poppies, it might have something to do with protocol
as it is unlikely the GG makes that mistake.
For your info, this GG is very good, very hard working and
very committed to supporting troops. In fact an article in
the media the other day due to the fact she has had her term extended by 6 months (due to when our election falls), it listed the number of events, functions and trips she had done since taking office and the question was
asked "does she ever take holidays" !!!
She has also been to the front line in Afghanistan a couple of times.
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To be fair, Rememberence day is somewhat overshadowed in Australia by ANZAC day, which is a public holiday. Quite a few Aussie wear poppies, but only on the day. Normally it's the Poms who wear them for the week before
To be fair, Rememberence day is somewhat overshadowed in Australia by ANZAC day, which is a public holiday. Quite a few Aussie wear poppies, but only on the day. Normally it's the Poms who wear them for the week before
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Having served on exchange in the land down under I csn honestly say that both the kiwis and the Ozzies put the Brits to shame when it comes to remembrance .....in the UK we remember our fallen every year.... Down under they remember every day.
Mrs S and I attended the NZ National Memorial in Wellington this morning to find a small but high powered service about to start. Joined the very small number of public and very wet servicemen outside in the pouring rain (just like the UK) but disappointed the service was not relayed to outside - again also expressed by locals. Also surprised at how little notice taken by rest of public - again though I realise ANZAC day is the bigger commemoration.
More to the point, why are all the security [for Gillard one presumes] looking INWARDS?
Probably to make sure that she doesn't fall over ....
Jack
PS Full marks to the extremely elegant GG for doing a very good Duchess of Kent impression - to make C and C feel at home perhaps!
Probably to make sure that she doesn't fall over ....
Jack
PS Full marks to the extremely elegant GG for doing a very good Duchess of Kent impression - to make C and C feel at home perhaps!
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Isn't the claim against someone not wearing a poppy somewhat hypocritical as haven't wars been fought over freedom...
I assummed that freedom also allows someone to make a choice of whether to wear a poppy or not.
Sadly its now almost poppy fascism where anybody who doesn't wear one is pillored.
I assummed that freedom also allows someone to make a choice of whether to wear a poppy or not.
Sadly its now almost poppy fascism where anybody who doesn't wear one is pillored.
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Is she a tranny or were her parents confused?
As for Remembrance Day, please don't despair of it being forgotten in Oz - at least not whilst my 14 years old OzNephew is alive. He is a member of the Army Cadets out there and this year was asked to organise a Remembrance Day Assembly for the school he attends. He was thrilled to do so and started work on it some months ago. I haven't yet heard how it went but hopefully it all went well.
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Isn't the claim against someone not wearing a poppy somewhat hypocritical as haven't wars been fought over freedom...
I assummed that freedom also allows someone to make a choice of whether to wear a poppy or not.
Sadly its now almost poppy fascism where anybody who doesn't wear one is pillored.
I assummed that freedom also allows someone to make a choice of whether to wear a poppy or not.
Sadly its now almost poppy fascism where anybody who doesn't wear one is pillored.
To be fair, Rememberence day is somewhat overshadowed in Australia by ANZAC day, which is a public holiday. Quite a few Aussie wear poppies, but only on the day. Normally it's the Poms who wear them for the week before
Today, November 11th 2012 both ladies who were so unjustly pilloried observed correct protocol at the AWM.
