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lostinspace89 25th November 2023 07:55

EY vs EK
 
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can offer any light on the current mood/opinion in both. I've applied to both, got through first stages etc. I'm airbus rated. I realised the EK offer is substantially better than EY due to higher base pay, live out and also most importantly the Provident fund (is there nothing similar at EY?). That being said I know Etihad is smaller and I spoke to someone that has worked at both that felt management is better at EY due to it being smaller. At etihad I'd be on the 320 at first, at EK 380, then probably both on the 350 would be the goal.

Also living in Dubai seems to have become very stressful as its just growing non stop, whilst abu dhabi is larger and calmer with the facility of being an hour away anyway from Dxb. EK currently not offering live out to new guys unless buying, whilst EY offering. Again financial is important but also management and culture. I'm happy to hear both sides of the story, I know there was a previous thread that went back a decade saying EK was much better. But not much update recently.

Thank you and safe flying.

nickler 25th November 2023 09:56


Originally Posted by lostinspace89 (Post 11545754)
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can offer any light on the current mood/opinion in both. I've applied to both, got through first stages etc. I'm airbus rated. I realised the EK offer is substantially better than EY due to higher base pay, live out and also most importantly the Provident fund (is there nothing similar at EY?). That being said I know Etihad is smaller and I spoke to someone that has worked at both that felt management is better at EY due to it being smaller. At etihad I'd be on the 320 at first, at EK 380, then probably both on the 350 would be the goal.

Also living in Dubai seems to have become very stressful as its just growing non stop, whilst abu dhabi is larger and calmer with the facility of being an hour away anyway from Dxb. EK currently not offering live out to new guys unless buying, whilst EY offering. Again financial is important but also management and culture. I'm happy to hear both sides of the story, I know there was a previous thread that went back a decade saying EK was much better. But not much update recently.

Thank you and safe flying.

First golden rule of the Middle East: head where the overall package is better. Company culture and management is the same in every corner of the region, so forget about it.
EK has an overall better package. You could consider EY just as a DEC A320. As a FO just aim at EK without any further thoughts.

aseriesofleftturns 28th November 2023 13:11

Any more insight to this?

ayliz2012 24th May 2024 13:08


Originally Posted by aseriesofleftturns (Post 11547462)
Any more insight to this?


Where did you end up going?

aseriesofleftturns 28th May 2024 12:52


Originally Posted by ayliz2012 (Post 11662190)
Where did you end up going?

Applied for EK. Decided to not apply for EY due to a seemingly lesser package and strong advice from those I know who suggested very long commands times.

Would prefer more insight on EY if anyone can offer it. Not interested in the 320 personally. Prefer AUH to DXB with a young family. Cheers.

Truetoga 13th June 2024 23:20


Originally Posted by aseriesofleftturns (Post 11664861)
Applied for EK. Decided to not apply for EY due to a seemingly lesser package and strong advice from those I know who suggested very long commands times.

Would prefer more insight on EY if anyone can offer it. Not interested in the 320 personally. Prefer AUH to DXB with a young family. Cheers.

It depends on which aircraft you’re looking for command. I think command on the A320 would be quick with expansion plans. But who knows.

They are starting a heavy recruitment campaign with road shows which they haven’t done in a long time. It shows they need to expand.

aseriesofleftturns 17th June 2024 22:37

Bump. 5 Characters

enzino 18th June 2024 09:06


Originally Posted by Truetoga (Post 11676005)
It depends on which aircraft you’re looking for command. I think command on the A320 would be quick with expansion plans. But who knows.

They are starting a heavy recruitment campaign with road shows which they haven’t done in a long time. It shows they need to expand.

What are the command times at EY on the narrow body fleet at the time and what are the prospects?

xavierb 22nd June 2024 20:00

T&C Cpt 350/380 @ EY?
 
Hello Gents,

'have been reading for 30 + minutes, but didn't find where the current T&C for EY WB Cpt are? Any intel? Wondering this looking at the DEC A380/350 position..
Grazie!

cruisepower 23rd June 2024 04:56


Originally Posted by xavierb (Post 11682067)
Hello Gents,

'have been reading for 30 + minutes, but didn't find where the current T&C for EY WB Cpt are? Any intel? Wondering this looking at the DEC A380/350 position..
Grazie!

It's on their websiteStarting salary of AED 35200 per month for Captains.

Flight duty allowance:

- 1-6 years of service: AED 50 per block hour

- 7-10 years of service: AED 80 per block hour


Meal allowance during layovers as per the following rates:



Middle East/ GCC/ Sub Continent

AED 12 per hour

Asia/ Far East

AED 15 per hour

Africa/ Australasia

AED 18 per hour

Europe/ Americas

AED 23 per hour


Housing allowance up to AED 170000 per year or company provided housing depending on availability.

Education allowance of AED 36000 for primary and AED 50400 for secondary up to 3 children.

Income protection scheme.

42 Days annual leave.


Staff travel benefits.

End of service benefits.

Accidental and life insurance benefits

xavierb 24th June 2024 12:24

Cheeeeecked!
Thank you Cruise power. So 380 n 320 at the same rate, interesting..

Happy landings!

cruisepower 25th June 2024 04:15


Originally Posted by xavierb (Post 11683003)
Cheeeeecked!
Thank you Cruise power. So 380 n 320 at the same rate, interesting..

Happy landings!

Yes but allowance and days off are higher on the widebodies. I know few guys working there all are happy.

xavierb 30th June 2024 14:53

Many thanks CP!

requestvisual 30th June 2024 23:10

Are there opportunities for A320 Captains to progress to widebody after some time in the company?

aseriesofleftturns 1st July 2024 07:38

60 odd wide-body orders between now and 2030. Would have thought this will present significant upgrade opportunity?

Jimsaviation 1st July 2024 21:51

It seems as though the package at EK is better, especially the schooling allowance. Is there any reason to choose EY over EK?

aseriesofleftturns 2nd July 2024 04:24


Originally Posted by Jimsaviation;[url=tel:11688209
11688209[/url]]It seems as though the package at EK is better, especially the schooling allowance. Is there any reason to choose EY over EK?

Living in AUH vs DXB? Not sure otherwise. Culture and rostering better at EY perhaps? The sentiment from current and ex EK crew seems quite negative. Dunno.

roll_over 2nd July 2024 08:04


Originally Posted by aseriesofleftturns (Post 11688330)
Living in AUH vs DXB? Not sure otherwise. Culture and rostering better at EY perhaps? The sentiment from current and ex EK crew seems quite negative. Dunno.

There is no comparison between EK and EY.

Truetoga 3rd July 2024 05:42


Originally Posted by roll_over (Post 11688448)
There is no comparison between EK and EY.

care to explain further..

aseriesofleftturns 8th July 2024 14:43

EY is promptly becoming the better airline and better place to work, and we all know it.


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