Approx 6 per month leaving or getting fired. (Based on the seniority list)

Whoever was posting about Airtran, I imagine those open positions will dry up very quickly now that Southwest is buying them. Again, job markets in U.S. is still on very shaky grounds.

6 / m is 72 a year or 3%, not that many really

Nope I disagree, I've kept an eye on a mate who joined earlier this year. He's moved up 35 places in the last 6 months. 72 out of 2450'ish is not 3%, and anyway why can't it be 3%?

If it's not 3% what is it?

Indeed. If they get up to SWA pay scales they'll be making much more than EK now too.

It is 3%. So to answer your question: It can be 3%

The actual number is around 2%.

Fartmaster. Please, be so brave as to back up you statement by telling us the date when the last person was fired? This year was it?!!!!

Utter crap.

Harry

Harry,

Utter Crap, Charming!

1x Canuk 777 Capt approx 6 weeks ago....... 1x 380 Capt 8 days ago.

It's a bit sad really when someone makes a simple post, backed up with some info and then gets rude posts in return, it's hardly a contensious issue after all, pull your heads in boys.

Burnable.... my point exactly... it IS approx 3%

Harry - Fartmaster is correct re the firings...

At least those firings were (arguably) justified.

The firing of the Manchester F/O is a permanent stain on the companies character. Doesn't matter when it happened, unless they ring hmi, appologise, and offer to reinstate with full pay for the time since the incident, they are morally in the red.

And THAT from someone regularly accused of being a "Cheer-leader" for EK!!

Ok, so what exactly is the Manchester story with the FO? All I've heard was it was a FO on IOE with a checkairman CA, and they executed a wrong missed approach. While that is a big mistake, it is not worthy of firing someone over. Here in the states, filing an ASAP report would cover your as$, so as long as it was a 100% honest mistake. You'd get called in, have a meeting, and maybe get a letter in your file (which is tossed in 12-24 months anyway), but you would have still have your job.

So what gives? What happened to these two EK pilots and what exactly happened at Manchester?

Flyer,

Essentially correct (though do try and learn international parlance- IOE= Line Training, Checkairman=TRE (though this was a TRI), ASAP=CHIRP).

He unfortunatley had the bad karma to do it while the CEO was in the terminal, at a time when the company was still reacting (badly) to the Melbourne incident.

Unfair, unjust and immoral.

100% correct except for this:-

It wasn't Ed, it was AA. Ed was a lot of things, but not (quite) THIS bad.

(Though the part about "Still under review is correct- seems he strung it out till the commanders conferences were over as he knew he couldn't possibly justify it.)

Wiz, they call you that because it fits you! Re-read your own post.

And you're the one who raised the reason for the sackings.

Still, I suppose it's always good to periodically re-post the way things work around here.

Harry, I believe there has also been three FOs sacked this year. A S. American, a limey and an aussie.

Then I stand corrected. Apologies to FartMaster.

Nobody tells me a feckin thing round here :(

Harry


ps For those in the know, what was the background in these recent dismissals?

Anyone fluent in gibberish so they can translate this for me?

Oakape, your info is closer to the source than mine, so maybe Ed WAS that big of a #$%^!!

Nobody tells me anything as well.

I appreciate that working here I'm a mushroom, but would appreciate the reasons behind the sackings if someone in the know would be forthcoming.

Thank you in anticipation.

I am cursed to be "living in interesting times".

Oh for the simple life. . . . . .

For those of you from NA looking at options to "get out" Virgin America are advertising for pilots again. Looking at the delivery schedule you should be looking at upgrade within 2 years or so and at the same time you'll be sitting back home waiting for that command rather than down in the sand pit! Not too bad all things considered I guess?

Good luck!

CP

AC Hiring
 

AC hiring 50 pilots this financial year. 700 pilots are retiring over the next 5 years, that's 140 new hire/year for a while just for retirement!
B767 will not be phased out, they are fitted with the new interior, meaning the arrival of the 787 will create expansion, more jobs to come along on top :O
Keep Discovering!

Who is AC? Air Canada?