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Aiza 17th May 2015 18:10

570k is the max price that someone should pay for this program( even that is way too much) . Any thing above is way too over priced and not worth.

Getting a permanent contract is pretty difficult as there are plenty of mplers pushing in. If you want to calculate your FO oppurtunities, calculate the number of airplanes ABY has in order and compare it with number of students that are waiting for base training vs the batch you will be. Its almost impossible.

The training has never once in alpha history been completed in 18 month, but it has been completed with little more time.


This is a very intense training program. DO NOt be confident that you have passed the assessment.

Pros

World class training
Line training
Professional atmosphere
Highly experienced and friendly instructors


Cons

Expensive
Delays

crazy_bird 1st June 2015 08:56

hello everyone,
i will be giving the assessment soon. I have a couple of questions ..

1. Regarding the physics and math tests, are there only going to be simple direct problems or do advanced questions also come?
2. Also, i havent touched a physics or a Math textbook for around 5 years, so i definitely need to brush up on my core concepts, can someone kindly recommend a good source to prepare from.

Thanks

iamzhk 9th June 2015 08:26

AAA assignment.
 
Hi Khalid,

Can you please tell me more about the assesment. I am thinking of joining GAA or AAA. What all questions they asked from Physics and Math? Thank you

KhaledJanahi 30th June 2015 01:46

Is anyone going to join the batch that will start in July?

crazy_bird 30th June 2015 14:49

@KhaledJanahi , hopefully I will, still in the assessment stages

Guys,
has anyone gone for the physics refresher course by Bright Dimensions to prepare for the AAA physics test?

I believe that its the same company that AAA consults with to make the papers.
Can i please get some reviews about their course?

thanks

KhaledJanahi 1st July 2015 11:13

Wishing you all the best for your assessment and hope to see you soon.

akm447 4th July 2015 03:03

since there is no clear answer anywhere on what the test consists of, I am going to study according to what Alpha Aviation Academy has on their website regarding the assessment:

Alpha Cadet Selection for Cadet | Alpha Aviation Group

You can buy a practice version of the FAST/ADAPT Online on this website:

NZSkillsConnect

I found it to be very helpful. That is of course assuming that is the only test they administer to potential cadets on assessment day.

crazy_bird 6th July 2015 15:00

hello everyone.

I will be giving my final interview soon. Can any of you please give me some tips and share some of the resources that you use to get info on the latest aviation news and any technical aspect that may be asked during the interview.

All constructive comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance! :ok:

pfvspnf 11th July 2015 11:51

Air Arabia is unlikely to give you a permanent contract after 750 or 1500 hours! Too many MPLs and they are not growing fast enough to accommodate all the batches.

They have bonded many of the FOs and nobody will be leaving anytime soon.

Good way to get into the right seat directly but very very expensive and very very risky if anything happens in between your MPL isnt worth anything.

Sfly90 15th July 2015 09:21

TR A-320
 
pl. give reviews about Type rating form Alpha Philippines for A-320 and getting DGCA endorsement....

flaps2fly 26th July 2015 08:03

Assessment
 
Hi Guys,
Iam planning to do the MPL assessment is a couple of months.
Any idea on the level of difficulty and any reference sites that will make my preparation easier?

gpsw 27th July 2015 07:50

Current Batch Size
 
Hello everyone

Just want to know how many cadets are enrolled in current batches.
Am also looking forward to give the assessment, so I would be really thankful for any suggestions regarding the assessment.

flaps2fly 27th July 2015 13:05

CurrentBatch Size
 
i think there are around 10-12 students a batch.

rahulras1993 27th July 2015 20:09

Personally find it really expensive and just 70 hours of flying ? :=:=:=

sambateman93 24th November 2015 10:01

Aplpha Aviation MPL
 
Hi

I am planning to attend the assessment test in Alpha Aviation soon. I had earlier tried the CTC Southampton but could not pass the test. Any advice for the Alpha Aviation assessment test please. I have been in touch with the cadet officers and sought their advice, but not been very helpful. Anyone in the forum, please do provide some help. :sad:

Pukster20 14th December 2015 15:26

When are you planning for your assessment?

crazy_bird 15th December 2015 11:48

Hello
regarding the assessment, its all pretty basic stuff.
the English test is very basic, if you are used to speaking in English then it shouldn't be a problem for you.
the math test is high school level, if you go through the topics given to you, it will be OK. none of the questions should be out of the ordinary.
physics too is at the high school level, I suggest you do a bit of brushing up if you have been out of touch with the subject, some of the questions to get a bit tricky.
a lot of candidates had gone to bright dimensions in deira, Dubai for a refresher course in math and physics. they train you with the alpha assessment test in mind. there are refresher courses conducted in alpha as well.

to be honest, even if you do find the assessment tests to be easy, don't let that fool you. The course is far from easy. it requires a lot of hard work.

cheers

shoeb 16th February 2016 12:55

hi .
can you please reply for the below
I wants to apply for AAA for MCL will a commerce grad can apply or not , i check with one former flight attend in PIA she told minimum requirement is high school doesn't matter you have done it with science or commerce , as i am not mush familiar with physics i am bit worried about it , if it is 10th level i might not worried much.

thanks

CaptJack123 9th May 2016 06:27

G'Day Gents,

Any update on the AAA/Air Arabia MPL programme? Thinking of joining at the end of the year. Just wondering if anyone has been successful thus far.

Cheers.

pfvspnf 9th May 2016 18:41

is it true that the last few batches have been sitting on the ground for 6 months? no flying/no type rating no nothing?

pfvspnf 10th May 2016 07:24

How many MPLs have been upgraded so far t captain ?

fernandeztv 10th May 2016 12:03


How many MPLs have been upgraded so far t captain ?
None as company minimums is 4500hrs on type. So that would mean 5 years minimum since they started. Nobody qualifies for that as of now, but will do so in a few months time. Having said that quiet a few have moved onto EK, EY and QR over the past 2 years. For upgrade a seniority list exists and the upgrade courses have been scheduled over the next few months.

CaptJack123 22nd May 2016 12:14


Originally Posted by Integrated (Post 9370524)
CaptJack123, I went there, at considerable expense prior to where I am today. Be very careful is what I can say. The fees include nothing, additionally they lack instructors and it is run by managers who know nothing about aviation.

I got in, but decided against it for many reasons but it isn't what it's pitched as. Unless you're arab, I wouldn't go to that 'school' - and by school, I mean portakabin with 3 classrooms next to the cargo companies loading bays.

If you decide to go there, then good luck. But I am much happier going to a European flight school now after spending a long time researching (and in regards to Alpha, a lot of money too).

I appreciate the honesty, if you don't mind me asking; where did you end up doing your training? And where are you in the regard as for now.

How far did you make it into Alpha? What was the main reason for leaving? I do understand being in the Middle East, facilities aren't going to be of European or Australian quality finishes but at the end of the day, if it gets you into the right seat... what is there to complain about.

CaptJack123 23rd May 2016 14:46

Thanks for the info! I really do appreciate any external advice I can get.

I am leaving my options open, would you mind running through some of the fees ect. incorporated in the FTE Jerez course? I did a quick surf on the net and what I found so far looks pretty good. Just wondering if I could get some details on the corse from someone that knows their stuff a bit more than I do haha.

If I end up going through AA I will keep everyone posted in regard to what the latest is in terms of selection process/assessments ect.

Safe travels.

CaptJack123 25th May 2016 11:24

That sounds like you are getting a bit more for your money, upon completion of the FTE Jerez will you gain employment in the right seat of a jet however?

How many hours do you graduate with? What is the total duration of training w/ FTE?

I'm just thinking; at the end of the day... yes AAA is on the expensive side of things and it doesn't look to be the most desirable facilities but after two years you come out with 1500hrs on type and an MPL that is transferable to an ATPL/CPL.

It gives you an easy opportunity to get your foot in the door at a Middle Eastern airline meaning you'll be making a competitive salary (tax free) to start paying back the initial cost of the MPL course only catch is, by the looks of things you have to spend two years in the loading bay of SHJ.

Unavailable 25th May 2016 19:22


Originally Posted by Integrated (Post 9388260)
- Air Arabia will not allow you to undergo the conversion at 1,500 hours.

May I ask please where did you get this information from?? Cause I know many pilots who have gone through this MPL and got their ATPLs and some have mover to EK and the ones on the other side of the road!

CaptJack123 2nd June 2016 15:38


Originally Posted by Integrated (Post 9388260)
- Air Arabia will not allow you to undergo the conversion at 1,500 hours. They will use the MPL as a way to bond you to them and not under any circumstance leave. Be seriously careful.

Now I am just thinking out loud here: If that is the case, isn't that the goal? To be bonded w/ an airline in such early stages of your flying career to pump out a few years getting max hours? And after your contract is up w/ AA (if offered one), re-assess your options. Its not like a pilot whom gone through the scheme w/ 2,500-3,000hrs is gonna leave w/out an ATPL...

To me, this looks like the dream.. if the case of this bond.

Dualinput 3rd June 2016 04:21


Originally Posted by Integrated (Post 9396614)
Being bonded is fine. Nobody questions that. Not being allowed to convert your MPL into an ATPL is not fine. Ignore the sales patter, speak to people actually there. They are not authorised to change the MPL, which if you look at it as an extension of being bonded, then fine that makes sense - but if you are for some reason made redundant, you have no license at all - and unemployable by anyone else.

@ Integrated

Not sure where you getting this information but it's totally incorrect! Once the cadet finishes the hour requirement, he/she gets to do the ATPL skill test in the coming PPC. This solely depends on when the PPC comes up as per the schedule. Few cadets don't get the ATPL in the first shot because they bust their skill test. Please don't make baseless assumptions and mislead people.

Yes, some cadets don't get FO contract immediately at the end of 750 hrs, but ATPL is never an issue unless you bust it yourself..

Hope this helps..

Cheers

pfvspnf 4th June 2016 06:59

You can most certainly convert to an ATPL after you meet the Experience, Skill and Knowledge requirements, yes ABY has to authorize it and in most cases they will. It might not happen at 1500 but it will be done along with the next PC. Many have gotten their ATPLs and many have left for EK and QR.

On the other hand the MPL training can take quite sometime, AA is not reliable and ABY will call the shots as to when they are ready to start and finish your training and most importantly give you employment afterwards.

Its still the best way to get on to the right seat. Yes there are CPL and fATPL holders getting on to airlines right away in Europe but its rare. I dont see those flight time requirements going down just as yet.

hun777 23rd July 2016 17:12

Hi. I am planning to apply for MPL program with AAA UAE. Can any body tell me if it's a reliable program to commit to? What are the job prospects after completion of the training? Thanks

momo95 27th July 2016 14:22

All I know is it's bloody expensive. There are many rumours as to the reliability of the program however.

momo95 3rd August 2016 15:28

Does anyone have any info on the salary when joining Air Arabia from the MPL?

Do you get extra allowances for housing or anything like that on top?

mavi8or 8th August 2016 11:55


Originally Posted by momo95 (Post 9460896)
Does anyone have any info on the salary when joining Air Arabia from the MPL?

Do you get extra allowances for housing or anything like that on top?

Hello friend

5k AED during first 300-400 hours
10-20k AED After that until 1500 hours
If you are employed after that,you will earn 20+k AED

No information about allowances!!

Good luck

momo95 9th August 2016 08:30

Thank you for your reply Mohammed. Are those figures per month ? Are you on the course may I ask?

pfvspnf 9th August 2016 15:32

Wow those salaries are very low, will take years to make a return on your investment

momo95 9th August 2016 17:47

They are quite low yes. Will anyone be wilking to discuss how they got by living on these salaries, what it was like post alpha etc? I'm trying to build an image of how things will likely be. Thanks

123essame 9th August 2016 19:06

Hello, I was thinking of applying in 2017, purely because of the 1500H they offer after training. if I pass there entrée requirements ?. I've been hearing lots of good and bad staff about them. if you've been there please send me your input & any feedback regarding the school. kind regards

pfvspnf 11th August 2016 05:54

So I'd like info on a few things from those on the inside;

- How many fail the training at sim or line training ?
- if everyone is passing , are the MPLs really that good? Training must be excellent
- how many are getting permenant contracts after ?
- is it true that there are massive delays at every stage ?

shoeb 14th August 2016 14:36

Hi cadets
Does any body know about academy of aeronautics montreal in canada ?

KarloTodorov 4th October 2016 10:16

Psychometric Assessment
 
Hello guys,

has anybody attended the psychometric tests in E.D.M.A. and what is it like?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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