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foxtrot 21st March 2008 17:10

Problem In Qr Managent
 
What Is Going On In Qr Selecting People Like Dcp Trg A330 [ Rh].he Proven In The Past To Be A Biased Individual.will Destroy The A330 Flt. God Help People In Qr With The Likes Of Him In Management.

Goat Liner 21st March 2008 19:57

I've been in QR since before R.H. and most people find him knowledgable and a straight talker. The ones who don't like him are usually people who failed sim checks etc. Are you one of them? ;)

Besides, can you really complain about R.H. in management when we have people like the CP340/CP Tech?!

Low IN Fuel 21st March 2008 20:31

Goat Liner , Well Said.

knotaloud 22nd March 2008 10:14

Yeah,

I'm with the Goatliner. That pretend-pilot, the ACTING chief pilot technical is the one to concern yourselves with. He's the clown that's totally responsible for another SOP disaster!

Have you read it? Unfortunately the version I have been given is too rough to use in the bathroom. Might make a good BBQ starter?

And then there's his fuel policy....................

Johny Walker 22nd March 2008 20:39

Far F$$ke's sake when will pros occupy the thrones not the unworthy vassals? Truly, an act beneath anyone's dignity.:yuk::yuk::yuk: The day office will be liberated from wannabe politicians and shortsighted kids shall be cherished as path breaker into new era.:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Qatari515 22nd March 2008 22:48

I am amazed by some of the reactions here.

For years and years the QR flight ops dept has been ruled by worthless amateurs and nobody complained.

Sure, lots of the pilots had one or another way in so rosters could be manipulated, check results changed ( No, Its NOT normal 80% of the checks are graded 5!!!!), fleet transfers arranged etc etc etc

Sure, RH is not a stranger to political games and he made his mistakes in the past....But the man does know what he is talking about, he knows how to fly an airplane and yes, his standards while checking are higher than the average TRE-that-just=fell-out-of-a-tree in qatar Airways!

You can live with an absolute amateur telling you how much fuel to take, implimenting policies without ever reading an OEB,....so I am sure you can live with RH and SD in the training office!

oryxbollocks 23rd March 2008 05:21

Correct 515. Those who have a problem with RH, have a problem with their own standards.

However to call our Technical Chief Pilot an amateur is a bit generous, don't you think? Incompetent would be closer to the truth.

GB

loc22550 23rd March 2008 07:21

Foxtrot have you ever seen the CP we have on 320...?:mad:
I wish we can someone like CP330 DCP330 DCPT330,DCP320 or DCPT320....to make it short anybody else....

PIPE RIDER 23rd March 2008 10:05

Have to agree soooooo much CP on 320 is the perfect example of ignorance mixed with incompetence.

The other question is how long before RH and HA kill each other being in the same room????:\

CEO PITA 23rd March 2008 10:52

R.H
 
R.H will prove again and again how he is and he will be demoted for 3 time in QR .
He is perfect for manipulating people and system .
Knows how to talk but its all big plans and empty promises.
Good luck with him !

Black Stain 27th March 2008 12:18

The Goat is a juvenile airline, you must expect kindergarten like management.

Want to learn something new? You must then ask the A320 Chief Pilot Training the following questions. Let him teach you, or at least have a laugh at his answers:
1. What are the two/single engine V2500 TOGA time limits?
2. What to do if you lose visual reference whilst circling?
3. Can the FO be PF for CAT3a autoland?
4. How many trainees need complain about a TRE before he can be promoted to Goat Management?


And ever wonder why the Goat doesn't bother with psychological testing during recruitment? I guess managers with mental disorders find the psych evaluation process intimidating....

Mike Tuck 27th March 2008 15:48

BS
 
Mr. Stain your ability to see the truth is impecable. The hole is getting closer. The one you look down and see a goat at the bottom, then the I*a*i*n donkey will nod no more. Trouble is that he is suckering in other people, normally good people that believe his claptrap. The new Chief Trainer is also part of the problem, no guts, no idea.

hairy plotter 27th March 2008 20:31

The whole goats management is one big disaster fugitive servants of the ruthless goat's king. He'll chop you all one day anyways. Hey what else to expect from the sub ordinary mindsets living by the rule of JUST IN CASE.:ugh:

Black Stain 27th March 2008 22:57

One's goal should be to plan escape before one's mind is stained, as one must be capable of passing psych test at next airline eh? Don't get lost in the desert madness...

Smirnoff N21 28th March 2008 07:10

Donations status?
 
What happened with our donations to RK family? I reckon enough time has elapsed and it's about time to come up with some info. Anyone heard anything?

Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

loc22550 28th March 2008 13:44

What do you expect Smirnoff from a company like Q.A...that maybe they will send you a letter to thank you for the donation......Keep dreaming...
..Time to come with some info regarding increase or not of salary,in order to build up a decision,leave or stay...

QNC 29th March 2008 07:46

QNC
 
There is no increase. Time to...

loc22550 29th March 2008 14:41

Thanks for the info QNC..!Let's update the CV for the near future.

ramiyns 29th March 2008 15:46

loc22550
 
Update your applicaion and send NO WHERE!!!!!

I remmber a year a go you said that you booked your postion with Itehad!!
What happend? why you still here? man you are the most misrable in
Qatar Airways.
My advice to you,find yourself other outfit quickly before you die here.

Black Stain 29th March 2008 21:41

Well look who can count to four. Congratulations!!

And for your loyalty to the Goat King you deserve the longest desert sentence. Congratulations again.
............................................................ .....................


Good luck with the job hunt LOC. You deserve better.

loc22550 30th March 2008 13:46

POOR 11223344... wondering who is the most miserable....Yes my post are negative But not venemous , and i dont think i make big noise here by telling TRUE problem about Q.A.(salary problem,inflation.....Did you ever open a newspaper in Doha..if you able to read...),I have no intention to invent stories about Q.A....
No further comment.

Ramiyns: you are right..but when my interview for Etihad came,like a "miracle"....Qatar Airways Upgraded me...Good.. i'm really thankfull to the company for that...but i can't continue to loose money on a daily basis here, so when i will have my minimum requirement as Cpt to go where i want to go, unless there is a dramatic change in Q.A. salary, i will go.
Is it just normal that some people dont loose anythink(U$ peg to the dollar) while some others have already seen their salary devaluated by more than 40%..yes 40%.....!
Oh i see some people will come and say i'm too negative and miserable......:hmm:

A300Man 31st March 2008 17:51

11223344, in the past, were you a CSD with QR? Or, are you still one, actually? It's just that your comments and tone and language and grammar remind me of a certain person who was/is. Do you also speak Singhalese??????

I think you quite probably do, my dear!!


Gotcha!!!

loc22550 31st March 2008 18:00

ooh..11223344 be carefull,it seems that venom starts running through your veins too..:ooh:

CEO PITA 31st March 2008 21:44

RH
 
Rh hit again !
He is taking over CP decisions and he is trying to show his power how deep he can get in to CT a....! Seams he is " KING OF PENETRATION "

!

salamalikum2 1st April 2008 05:53

Oups..., let's prepare the Vaseline in that case.:ouch:

NA 1st April 2008 19:44

Gent's, let's be fare with the acting CP technical:

- New SOP: they are almost 99% Airbus, you want to tell me that our previous SOP's were a state- of- art ? with their printing errors and endless pages of nonsense explanations ? at least now, we should start to receive Airbus SOP revisions which were missing in the past.

- New fuel policy: so what ? I'me the commander, if I want extra fuel the new fuel policy will not stop me to take it, however I should have a good explanation, after all, fuel indeed is getting very expensive.

The guy in my opinion is doing OK, I felt that most pilots on the A340 are happy with him, Expats manage to get 8 consecutive days-off every month, rosters on time, I hope that my fleet could provide the same one day.

Smirnoff N21 2nd April 2008 06:52

He'd be doing even better by adopting part A from AI as this document is a state of art. Two dogs won't like it but he's gotta swallow the bitter pill.

Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

Qatari515 2nd April 2008 09:11

May God forbid the day we adapt to AI's part A!


The critsicism on the CP technical was of a technical nature! He might be good enough to do the secretary's duties on day today bases in regular fleet management ( hence the 8 days off), the guy is totally worthless when it comes to technical issues!

NA, you think this SOP is 90% airbus? Think again mate! Its a mishmash of all sorts of documents....which is why it is so incoherently and wrong!

Have a look at that new CPDLC note which just came out! I hope none of you guys is following this as it is wrong as well!
Especially the clearence part!

Go on the ICAO website, have a look at the aibus documents etc...but DONT follow this document!

Its written by a greek wannabee management captain who is now in charge of technical publications, and it was approved by mr "Ignorance is bliss" who is acting CP technical pilot!

No offense, both are nice persons, but they should not be allowed anywhere near a management seat!

If only the CEO would listen to people who come knocking at his door with complaints, iso of sending the feedback back to the culprits in order for them to start an investigation!

Its a joke....Its all a joke!:sad:

NA 2nd April 2008 14:56

Qatari515,

I quote you:

"If only the CEO would listen to people who come knocking at his door with complaints, iso of sending the feedback back to the culprits in order for them to start an investigation!"

Reference to your above statement, It seems to me that your are one of the people who who come knocking at the CEO door instead of expressing directly your professional opinion to the concerned management.

As pilot with dignity, I will never accept to behave like a CS/CSD, standing at the CEO door, in order to screw a colleague, even if he is a manager that I don't like (and they are many in QR), and neither you should accept the same !!!! have some dignity, please.

hairy plotter 2nd April 2008 17:56

sounds to me like NA got a point there. What in Lords name does CEO have to do with flight related issues? He's neither a pro nor does he have time methinks. Jeez where the hell are we here? Hope he isn't counseling your marriages guys. He looks like a shrink to me.:mad:

Smirnoff N21 2nd April 2008 20:37

AI part A isn't good?
 
Hey QR 515,
I must admit to be surprised by your reaction. What's wrong with part A from AI? I'd have thought that's only logical to swing to it since AI SOP has been adopted already. In my eyes it's very well structured logical and certainly most comprehensive manual I've seen. Even LH one is somewhat behind it.
Care to elaborate? Maybe you got a good reason?
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

Qatari515 2nd April 2008 22:35

Dont get me wrong here guys....

I have never seen the CEO in his office and I did fight for my own issues within flight ops management!

But the fact to the matter is that the CEO does get involved in ALL flight ops related issues we have on a day to day bases.

He does interfere in the daily ops of the airline in more ways than you think.

He is the ONLY one who decides on policy changes, no matter of what importance.

So I know certain people who went to see him, after having tried everything they thought was necessary to change things as a gentleman...After all of it failed, they finally went up to talk to him and really told him everything which is going on....
Mostly he reacts...

But recently an algerian pilot, quit frankly a pain in the neck but incredibly knowledgable and gifted technically, went up to see him and talked for a long time.
The CEO was shaken and reacted, but in stead of taking things in his own hands like he usually does, he organised an interview board done by two management pilots....which quiet frankly is as usueless as tits on a bull!

Thats all I wanted to say...


AI OM Part A

1) Better than LH.....you must be joking, right?:eek:

2) Its not a bad OM, but its full of bureacratic mumbo jumbo and tooooooo much unnecessary talking in a true and well known Indian tradition!:=

3) QR should just stick to 100% airbus sop....thats all

oryxbollocks 3rd April 2008 05:43

How anyone in this outfit can see ANY merit in this latest load of crap from the CP Technical is completely beyond me. It is riddled with errors, omissions and downright wrong instructions.

The SOP is yet another case of a job not being thought through and being tasked to someone who is just not up to it, as is the Fuel Policy (but that's another matter).

The initial intention (at least that sent down to us at the coal face) was that we would revert to Airbus. Not that an airline manufacturer gets it right all the time, but that would have been better than what we have now and certainly would be better than this recent waste of paper.

All that said, the word is on the street that sanity has prevailed and the 'new' SOP has been canned. Let's hope it's true?

515. As to listening to that **** with the white hair....come on now? I used to value your posts but you lost me on that one. If they accept any input from him, they should remove him from the cockpit permanently first!

GB

CEO PITA 3rd April 2008 19:00

QR fuel
 
What are you talking about fuel ?? All my captians are taking what ever they think we need and no one was called for this.
Just enjoj life and have fuel !!!


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