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Be fair you all wanted him and the rest to leave but now changing your mined and want him to stay.
The airline needs new blood from the good loyal people as they have shown that in other airline. So we need new board that understand something about running an airline and not bunch of group that made bad calls in the past and the present. And if you want to know why AD resigned it because there will be no more loose money from the gov from sep 2007 I hope there will kick out all the bad people from GF Bahraini and non bahraini I always hope for the best.:8:D |
Who gets the Range Rover?
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Slowjet: Trader had justified his spellings in his second paragraph; he is thirty years behind, i.e. assuming he is a GF employee.
“Sorry Bjorn's Dog but the consultants do NOT make decision - the managers do. The problem at GF is that almost NO one can do their job with any degree of competatancy!!!! What answers could the staff have provided?????? The staff that had any ability did provide answers but just LOOK at our HR dept!! How 'bout our finance dept?????? How 'bout admin!!???? This company is quite literally THIRTY YEARS behind when it comes to management, systems and employee ability.” p.s. Slowjet, what is this ‘(many joining my consultancy Recruitment efforts)’ about? Any decent jobs in the offing?:confused: |
congratulations all you corrupt sons of bitches on the take with the golden falcon.
well this golden falcon has stopped laying those golden eggs that you've benefited from for all these years. what is supposed to bolster the bahrain economy may well sink it now due to a few individuals who most profusely opposed changes put forward by this management because of great risk to their personal interests. well ha ha ha.....everyone can see what has happened. you are now in the spotlight. because AD had not bluffed with that resignation but forced you to come up with excuses like blundering blabbering fools. kahooji and board, congratulations for your contribution to bahrain and it's people!!!!! |
It was obvious that AD was another copy of Hogan. He only did minor changes nothing much was changed. Different type of propaganda WE CAN DO IT and other usless stuff!!
SYD flight cancelled ZURICH flight was on the way!!! And WE CAN DO IT. Good decision and all the best MR. alkooheji and co :D |
why don't you put one of your locals on the hot seat....see how well they do in lying about nonexistent profits and debts swept under the carpet? (they all seem to do that well) too bad for bahrainis. reaffirmed the right decision for me to leave woohoo!!!
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Mr. Al kooheji is doing a great job, screw AD, who the hell is he?
Trying to come and setup his own sphere of influence around contracts etc.... watching as managers and VPs tie this company to the ground knowing well that these managers will be leaving to the competition soon....So where is this accountability? If I were Al kooheji now I would investigate all expat managers who are responsible for contracts, prior to them completing their service with GF, marketing is an area to look into a total disaster area with contracts flying left right and center without any corporate approval, and their manager is now leaving to join EY....fantastic, did AD not know about this or is he plain stupid? Accountability my @rse! |
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When is Bahrain going to learn that the only reason Dubai is so successful is that they have employed, in the most part, expats to run their businesses. Reply Was it not the previous PCE who Put GF in this situation in the first place, and I believe he was Expat…. Just in case you didn’t know. No - it was the years of inept management prior to his arrival. Add to the fact that the fact that he, as well as Dose, we hamstrung by the board and you see the result today. Quote Whether Dose is the right man is debatable, clearly the Board is not. Reply And you came to this conclusion after which intensive research? Doesn't take much research. Just read the papers - the Board constantly making statements on behalf of GF. Medling in the day to days ops of the company. Dose is leaving becasue they want to meddle further. The Boards job is not to run the airline but ti hire management to do it. Even if you believe that Dose and Hogan were bad then the BOD is faulted again - for failing to hire good management Quote Redundancies are required and one way or the other Bahrain will have to bite the bullet. Reply GF is 75% Expats and 25%Locals, if there are any Redundancies it should be the expats that go, thank you very much. What are you smoking????? LOOK at the office - 90% local Quote And more locals who between them are destroying the Falcon that could still yet be the pride of Bahrain. Reply British Airways announced 750mills losses, according to your theory above the British are useless at running an airline. No BA lost money the last while. But overall they are profitable. GF - not even close. Quote GF is still capable of being an engine of growth for the country employing well trained locals with a can do attitude, this will take time and will involve a seed change in the way the country manages its assets and infrastructure Reply Not true, Very capable Bahrainis are running Air Arabia and making huge profit, this negates your theory, however, let me tell you that it is the corrupt Expats who suck up to the influential figures who are really failing the airline or any other business they touch. Of course there are competant Bahraini's!!! Just not at GF (well, outside of flt ops not many competant ones). GF has been a place for various Bahraini's to gorge themselves on cash while some in the country live in poverty!!!! Get rid of the cronyism, place good Bahraini's and Expats in proper postions, stop meddling and the company might survive. |
hey salahbuali
you got one thing straight.....homos and philanderers and incompetent auditors to top it all off. with the likes of mk on house arrest, ops about to explode due complete mismanagement ( hey give 'em a break, tough to manage the masses when you are "taking care" of crew downroute and your eyes are on an ey paycheck ) and you have the men in black auditing from the tables at costa......sounds like a perfect org structure to me. bjorndog hit the mark.....they ride off into the sunset, we are left taxiing the rustbuckets trying to keep a straight face. i am gonna try to keep discovering - pick me, pick me , pick me |
The Range rover should go to the Guy who uncovered the robbers and exposed them for what they really are :D
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AD Leaving!!!!!!!!
Was reading in the GDN & The BT today that AD is leaving. Can't blame him with all the crap he has to wade through. The GDN also stated that if he does leave he will not really be missed as the Bahraini's will be able to take over!!!
All I have to say about Bahraini's taking over is :---- " GOD HELP US ALL ":eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: |
Hey SB, If Bahrainis don’t quench your thirst, why are you not working for your native country?
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What GF needs now is the little guy running the show south of this Island!!! I can assure he'll turn this Co to what it should be in six month, mark my word:ok:
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reply to soggyblonde
couldn't agree more with you about this soggyblonde. Gotta say that the local CSM's and not only CSM's but also the regular local F/A's are quite hard workers but unfortunately, this situations have nothing to do with the whole crew members community but with the very, very poor management GF have had during its last few years, and let me make something cristal clear for all of those who still think this GF situation was caused only by Mr. Hogans administration: when you are the CEO or COO it's obvious that you have a lot of power but all that power have certain limits, limits imposed by the Bored of Directors and the shareholders, so please, don't be so naive to think that the BOD have nothing to do with this. Y'all will see in the very near future that MR. MK investigation will stop all of a sudden just for a simple reason: if you dig deep enough, you'd be force to take to the court a lot of very high ranked local guys and don't think this goverment is going to permit that (the !!!! could stain'em as well, isn't it?
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Astonishing situation. Less than four months in the job after a six month search for the right guy ... or someone who would take the job. You chaps must be wondering what's next? I heard that he wasn't the first choice of the Bahrain board members and now that it is Bahrain-only his support slipped away.
Who will take the job now? Bit of a poisoned chalice. And what about all those major decisions he and his team of consultants made? Discontinuing six routes. Why? I have heard many people disagreeing with a number of those decisions, particularly Dublin. Will the next guy want to review the review? The airline has been in limbo for over a year now since the Australian one announced his departure. Now more in-limbo to come. Not a good position to be in. And with the continuing uncertainty about the future I have heard that many good guys in management will be looking around for alternatives. If you're not careful, by the time you get your next CEO all you will have left is the dregs, the staff no one else wants. Someone like Rod Eddington needs to come in for a couple of years on a short term contract to turn the airline around and then turn the thing over to a competent CEO. Good luck! |
Life after AD
Ok so AD leaves soon, so who will run the shop? All indications are that it will be a Bahraini (remember AD was the compromise choice between Oman and Bahrain).
A couple of posters have said that Bahraini's can run GF and site Air Arabia as an example. Err have a look at the Air Arabia management team. Out of 10 top team, there are 4 arabs. Take a closer look and the only one I know who is Bahraini is Adel Ali. Look at Adel's background and where did he get most of his experience and grounding - BA ! Fact is that a local GF Bahraini ain't going to make GF work. They will need a non-GF Bahraini. The Bahraini local will have been trained up by a top tier airline, probably has a good job already, so why would they take up the poison chalice? GF's screwed ! As I posted months ago, GF RIP. |
Up until very recently the fortunes of Gulf Air have been directly relevant and interesting to me, less so now, but nonetheless, because peoples livelehods are at stake, I hope things can work out eventually for Gulf Air, if it deserves to survive.
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Rod Eddington!! The Australian who left Ansett in a healthy state? He'll be right at home with GF.
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Ok, official word.
Manama, Bahrain 23 July 2007: The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Gulf Air, Mr. Mahmood Hashim Al Kooheji, announced today that the Board in its meeting held today 23rd July 2007 in the presence of the President and Chief Executive of the Company, Mr. Andre Dose, discussed the modus operandi of the company that was approved by the Board last week to ensure transparency and adherence to the rules and regulations of the Kingdom of Bahrain to be executed once the ownership of the company transfers entirely to the Kingdom of Bahrain, represented by Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company B.S.C.(c). The Board of Directors reviewed available options for the ongoing implementation of the company’s restructuring plan. It has been mutually decided that Mr. Andre Dose will leave the company in accordance with the terms of his employment contract. The Board thanked Mr. Dose for his assistance to the company during his employment period and wished him every success in his future plans. The Board also discussed the latest developments with regard to the implementation of the company’s restructuring plan and expressed its satisfaction with the positive results achieved thus far. The Board also expressed gratitude and appreciation to all company employees for their positive contributions towards such achievements. In addition, the Board thanked all those involved within Bahrain International Airport, the Civil Aviation Authority and Bahrain Airport Services (BAS) Company for their cooperation in supporting the National Carrier. The Board is highly optimistic and trusts that the company will have a promising future especially after the implementation of the Company’s network optimisation and overall restructuring plan, thereby continuing its 57 year history. The Board has also announced that a search for a new President and Chief Executive is ongoing. |
new PCE
so who is Adel Kanoo? the new PCE,
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Where did you here that? is this official? I know Adel and he has no airline experience unless you count that he is married to a BA employee :confused: On on |
Not another Expat, PLEASE
Rod Eddington!! The Australian who left Ansett in a healthy state? He'll be right at home with GF. |
Rumor is Al Moyed to be the next PCE.
No one in this country has the experience to run an airline - especially an airline in as much trouble at GF. The back is about to break on this airline. All of the management with experience are leaving. I am glad I am out of here!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Copy and paste straight out of 'mygulfair'. Today's GDN also has a couple of interesting reads, for all it's worth.
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The bye bye Dose thread
So four months and off you go.
Pitty we did not get to meet mate, but in four months, this is what was achieved:
Bye! |
Good news gentlemen, our all-knowing & supremely wise board have found the perfect replacement for AD. Indeed at this very moment high level talks are going on half way around the world in Orlando at the Walt Disney HQ. I seems dear brothers that the board are in the process of securing the sevices of Ali Baba & 40 of his top 'advisors'. Also the Little Mermaid is wanted in some 'other' cirles to perform certain favours. Daffy Duck is rumoured to be heading the PR dept & finally The Scrooge will be in the finance dept.
The only dark spot on this new shining vision of the board is that unfortunately they were unable to convince Pocahantas to sign with us. Still we can dream though:} |
Hey Chuck,
I suppose Pinocchio is too much to ask for, or he is he a permanent resident of the board :E |
The new CEO will be Dickless Cheney.
The new name will be Halliburton Gulfways... Since both are corrupt, why not merge and turn it in to classy act? We'll have free acces to iraqi oil, and they will have a deficit to hide their black figures in, to avoid the IRS:}. |
These Words Will Hurt!!!
This is the first and last post I will write, and I am sorry to say but my following words will hurt many! I am writing the following with the utmost transparency.
Transparency, as used in the humanities, implies openness, communication, and accountability. It is a metaphorical extension of the meaning used in the physical sciences: a "transparent" object is one that can be seen through. Well me being an ex Gulf Air F/O in the 90’s I have always been interested in what is going on and due to the recent incidents I have been looking with interest at this ‘Forum” for any insight on what is happening with GF. I am sorry to say that it is no surprise that GF is in the state it is when it employs people with manners and behavior like many of you. I have been shocked by the ignorance, hatred and racism that some of you write your posts!! I have never been in favor of such sites, I have done a big mistake by now being interested - the stupidity, selfishness and lack of maturity that some of you show is un acceptable and this is the reason I am writing. We are supposed to be mature professionals with years of experience!! Where is the CRM that we are supposed to be living by not just on the job but in everyday life!? I really feel sorry for the crew that has to spend nights and days flying with many of you. You give me a sense that you are boring, uneducated and with no interests in life at all. (Spending time writing such obscene ideas on such a site is really petty) at least try and use this time to get everybody together and try save your company from being lost. The message saying that this would be a chance to get a pay rise (like many others)is so selfish, do you guys do not see beyond your nose and realize how serious this is?? You might not have a job in a few weeks and all you think about is a pay rise!!!!! I always thought that a forum is a portal for ideas to be shared and to educate one another instead this forum is being abused!!!! Shame. This forum seems to be much more of a twelve year old blog, and many of you remind me of old Sicilian country woman back stabbing and foul mouthing their neighbor ( for you not knowing what a blog is please ask someone or google it) Many of you seem very smart and intelligent as you have all the strategies and formulas to every solution – maybe you should give the post of the new CEO a try – considering that the last 2 CEOs (I am quoting your words here) have done nothing and that the company is in the state it is because of them, I am sure you will be able to do a better job then they did! Don’t you think?? You might shine! Well with your attitude I believe that there will not be many employees working for the company if you did take over – EVERYBODY WOULD LEAVE. Also I do not think you have 1% of courage to do so – you give me the feeling that you are a person that would throw a stone and hide his hand – A looser!! To tackle the last few incidents that happened and how individuals are being questioned etc I wonder how it is only now that such actions are being taken – I ask my self is it may be these individuals are being used as a scapegoat?? (Please refer to a dictionary if you do not know the meaning) It is strange how many of you said that the pilfering happened since the Oz troop came in……Have you forgotten about what happened during the nineties!??? Have you really forgotten? Well or maybe you where blind, because it happened so ruthlessly in the open!!! When it comes to fraud theft and corruption for me it is taboo….and for whom is “caught with their hand in the cookie jar”( again please google this it’s a saying) ………Yes there should be JUSTICE FOR ALL , and in the civilized world we also say Innocent until proven guilty. So stop pointing the fingers and only do so when there is proof!! Living life with such fanatical hatred makes life complicated for everyone – the most important for YOU! You achieve nothing and give back nothing by living this way. Yes I agree that there are many locals that can run a company; many are doing so already and many of them are friends of mine – but Gulf Air is not a normal company run in the normal diplomatic system it has old ways of being run and this makes the job harder then any other job out there. Only few locals will go for the job at hand, many know what kind of bureaucracy and ‘vicious circle of friends’ are behind the so called ‘pink palace’, they have been around so long and are now so powerful that they are well camouflaged and now Untouchable! It will be the continuation of the end if one of them will take over! I wish you all the best for your future!! Take care and before you come back to me with foulmouthed replies, read between the lines and ask your self a few honest questions that deserve only honest answers!! GOD BLESS !! The capacity for getting along with our neighbor depends to a large extent on the capacity for getting along with ourselves. The self-respecting individual will try to be as tolerant of his neighbor's shortcomings as he is of his own. - Eric Hoffer |
Reply To Super DUMPER
Taxes my friend. No taxes. Well except for the new 1% for unemployable BAHRANI'S.:}:ugh::E
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Dreamliner380,
Thank you so much for finally joining in our childish discussions. You post was very interesting, so much so that I nodded off a few times. Put that together with having to "google" or use a dictionnary in order to translate your post since we here cannot possibly have any idea what you are talking about because of your superior intellect. |
AD Leaving!!!!!!!!
In one of my last posts I said "God Help Us All"!!!!
This is because the GDN said a Bahraini can run the show. In today's GDN they are still puhing for it. It's say's "if a bahraini can be a MP & a MP has more power than a ceo a Bahraini should do it". One the very next page, the very same MP's who have more power than a CEO are pushing for a BLACKMAGIC & WHITCHCRAFT LAW.:sad::eek::sad::eek: This law will allow the legal punishment of all the witch's, wizards and worlock's out there. Hey! lets stick all these Witch's, Wizards and Worlocks in a prison cell with some BEDKNOBS AND BROOM STICKS. I SAY AGAIN. "GOD HELP US ALL":ugh::ugh::ugh: |
Dreamliner380
Thank you for your post. Well said. I am glad we still have aviators like you around. |
"Tap on the nose update"
Interim audit report went it two days ago. Dose's departure is not unrelated.....
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Soggy, I say lets hire all those witches and warlocks and let them take the pilot jobs of all our departing brethren. That way their "magic" would fly the planes, fix em' and fuel em'! Think of all the money saved!:8 Hell, make one the new CEO and we're dancin'!!!!:} I can see the GDN headline already!
"GulfAir magically back in the black!" |
Thanks DREAMLINER380, for a few words of sanity in these trying times.
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Sand in ...
According Swiss newspaper it was due to the recently announced increase in the board controlling management actions, since a certain gentleman (not Dose) had some irregularities in his financial responsibilities. There was a competence disagreement then.
Well in a way I feel sorry for Dose, although he never did hack it at Swiss . but once you get sand in the works... FC. |
Dreamliner380, Please crawl back to your hole!!!
Sorry, but if you don’t understand what such forums are for, then go consult before labeling everyone with ignorance. Your post did not add anything to this thread (if you don’t understand what anything means, it means anything good or bad).
If we were to follow your advice and be legal representative, then nothing would be said here ever, we might all pack up and go home. And no your words didn’t hurt, only showed you as a lament. :rolleyes: |
clean money,good poeple
Stop comparing Dubai to Bahrain.
Bahrain is not in need of money laundering,to spent on its airline or have the tallest buildings.Bahrain has its poeple,to bring Gulf air,back and strong. Emirates,Qatar,Etihad,,,how many local staff real citizens have,out of 7000 qatar airways how many Qatari are there 70,,700 same goes to others.Bahrain is not like other countries,Bahrain needs clean and honest poeple,not expatriate with intention of only getting rich by any mean and as fast as possible. |
Rahla Sa'eeda!
Rahla Sa'eeda guys!
I never had much faith in AD, BN or their 'team' of teenagers. But then it is not entirely their fault. The reason Gulf Air is in such trouble is directly attributable to the corrupt, conflict of interest, greedy culture that is endemic in the 'higher' enchelons of our civilised :yuk: society. I say it is too late; whilst we bicker amongst ourselves and run trying to hang people who have made mistakes, we are missing the big point here - RUNNING THE AIRLINE. The last few months have been a public relations nightmare, fuelled by ours truly, the GDN. And whilst we waste time, QR, EK, EY continue to grow. Ladies and Gents, it has been a pleasure. |
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