mensaboy, don't hold back, laddie - get it off yer chest and tell us what you really feel!
I've yet to hear one of the Seppos say "THE" Emirates over the ether, (unlike quite a few of another nationality I won't name here). For that kind mercy, I can forgive them a few other sins.

All I can say is thank god none of us are crap pilots and we are all legends in our own lunchtimes.

I've flown in the States and the 'better to look good than be good' stereotype was definitely invented there. They do have a moral certainty, that the clown in charge at the moment has neatly undermined. Some forget to live their own lives and get wrapped up in the image others expect them to portray. That results in the '29oh' cack rather than fitting into the local environment. Some even go for the false bonhomme crap.

But that said....most of them are top blokes once you get to know them. There is a massive difference between those that have lived abroad and those that have only stayed in the States. They have a few crap pilots but they also have a hell of a lot of good ones too. If we give the guys a chance they'll settle in nicely and probably become just as bitter and twisted as the rest of us!

How many pilots does it take to change a light bulb? Just one, he holds the lightbulb and the world revolves around him!:}

Fine, my apologies to some of the Americans. I too have some good friends here from the US, and even they will admit there are some real shwanks here. Yes there are a few odd individuals from everywhere, but the percentage is very low I think.
I just have this fear that we are about to be inundated with more of these individuals as EK strives to put bums in the seats. Just imagine a couple more Capt Americas or Eds, etc. These are people who must know in their hearts that they have lost all credibility, yet in spite of their best efforts to garner support, continue to demonstrate their lack of integrity.
I feel genuinely sorry for these individuals as they walk into the room and try to work it like a politician. I see in the eyes of everyone they slap on the back, address as SIR, and generally try to shmooze, that they all are thinking ''this guy is a phoney''. The sad thing is that I see this tendency in many of our american colleagues. It has to be cultural, I just don't see it very often in others.
I am sure there is some deep-seated psychology issue that drives Ed to meet for lunch with those people he know will be inclined to listen to his rhetoric without fear of them contradicting him.
I suppose if you surround yourself with people who reinforce your self-image, it allows you to sleep at night. My suspicion is that we will now begin to receive more and more of these individuals, and eventually we might have to deal with them on a daily basis when we go to work. It's bad enough listening to them on the radios (although it does provide a certain amount of entertainment), but imagine spending 10% of your flights next to one of these people for 8 hours. Ouch!
Mark my words, if we do receive a larger proportion in the near future, I won't be the only one with this viewpoint. It has happened before when there has been an influx of a particular nationality, but for the most part it has been with relatively benign peculiarities and everyone has melded together quite well. I just don't see this happening if the attributes of a new group are shmoozing, ass-kissing, ladder-climbing, 'perception vs reality ideals', all of which is under an umbrella of ego and a distorted view of the rest of the world.

You guys are brutal, we should ease up on the ones that venture here, cut them some slack. After all, they are the ones brave enough to venture out from beneath the missile defence shield and discover there is more to the world than just the countries elligible to play in the World Series. That has got to be worth something, help 'em along, the're mercenaries like the rest of us after all.

Take it easy on eaglejet
 

A question is meant to be answered...however stupid questions.....usually get stupid answers in return....Beuhhh:hmm:
Multiple Answers is from QCM...Questions Choix Multiples another french stupid lingo....:rolleyes:

Wow Menstralboy, you are one twisted sister. How does one become so superior like you. First you stereotype all Americans, then you roll right into the Aussies and label them as only "pretty good" pilots and 'pretty good" people. You are a legend in you own mind, I feel for the poor guy that works with you.

Man, I am feeling sorry for you at EK to have to fly with the likes of mensaboy, or anyone who such opinions about fellow pilots. Poor mensaboy, he is obviously suffering from something to have such abhorrence, rancor, and contempt for any one group of pilots, not to mention 300 million people. How about a little background and nationality on you there mensa so we can all carp about the virtues of your like nationality pilots and your home country and government? But I guess it's typical of those who "can't" or never could to hold in contempt those who have. (insert whatever you want).

Why don't you identify yourself to those you bash so easily when you fly with one? Ah, but that might mean taking responsibility for your contempt and hatred.

Dear Johnramjet,
So after all the venom i've been spewing, that is the best you can come up with? I defended the Ozzies (not as you have wrongfully suggested)...... and you are trying to twist that into a pathetic attempt to mislead others into slagging me.
I think calling a group of people as pretty good pilots and pretty good people is a huge compliment, but perhaps it is just your misinterpretation of english..... fair enough.
For example, I would refer to fighter pilots as a group of pretty good pilots. One can't label every fighter pilot as that, but for the most part they are pretty good. That means, (if i'm not being clear here), I think they ARE good. And that is what I meant about Oz pilots, in general. I am the last guy at EK to slag the Ozzies, aside from the few nutcases in training.
I will stand by my views regarding 50% of americans though (not ALL americans as you once again have misrepresented). Yes it is a generalization in part, because the other half seem to be just like everyone else around the world. Sure we have differing viewpoints on some things, and sure we have different priorities in life and I have no heartache with that. My heartache comes from the fact that ALMOST HALF of americans are self-absorbed, image conscious, un-informed people, and that is a problem.
But getting back to Ek. This potential influx will cause us all a great deal of grief in the coming years if it happens. That is my opinion, and if you disagree with me that is fine but I am quite certain that to date....... the evidence is already showing at EK. My god man, just ask the normal americans what they think of some of their countrymen.
And as for people working with me, we have a laugh, do a good job and have some frank and enlightening conversations. (another unsubstantiated comment you made that I will dispute)
I will never label anyone based on their nationality or race, but I will label individuals based on their character. I understand I may be wrong at times, but I am willing consider criticism or contrary viewpoints and then re-evaluate my position. I will be the first to admit I was wrong. As an example of this, I have been the biggest Yank supporter on the planet up until about the 2nd year of GWB's presidency, when it finally hit me that I was wrong. Things have gone askew in that country and it took me longer than most to realize it.
PS. I think I am a pretty good pilot and a pretty good person. I don't think I'm great at either but at least I do try to improve myself.
So for the record, you wrote 4 sentences and you wrote 4 mistruths. That has got to be a record. Are you related to 'Scooter' Libby ?

As for you Ixnat,

A while back you took a lot of heat for defending Capt America and then you backed down when you realized there simply was no defence for his actions. At the time we happened to disagree which was fine but for you to say I hate Americans is preposterous. All i'm saying is that there is something seriously wrong in 'the land of the free' and 'the home of the brave' and the faster they recognize that, the better for the rest of the planet.

As for my preferences with whom I work? If I had to grab names from 2 bags of people, one american, one the rest of the planet.......... I'll choose the rest of the planet bag every time. If you equate that to hatred you are wrong. In fact if you equate that to labelling all Americans, that too is wrong.

Half of the americans i find quite interesting, intelligent and quite nice individuals. (Odd how that seems to be along the same lines as voting in the last 2 elections, but that is another thread.) When I say half of americans I really have no idea if that is 30% or 60%, but the entire point is this............ a vastly larger percentage of this group behaves in a particular manner that I find reprehensible, than most other groups of individuals I have met...... solely based on their nationality.

If we disagree, we disagree. If you wish to continue to make degrading comments about me, them don't expect me to sit back and take that. If you wish to DEBATE THE ISSUES that have led me to my conclusions about a large percentage of Americans......... bring it on. If I am wrong about them, then I will admit it. I had to admit to my non-EK friends about 6 years ago, that I was wrong about Bush and the motives of the american government then, and I can do that again if I am proven wrong.

All that crab just for asking how much a captain makes :uhoh:

Ding-Ding!! Well mensa boy (you got the "boy" part right) here we go...I've been here a decade and a half and a bit more, and have witnessed folks from all over the world showing up over here, each with their own ideas on how great it is back home where ever,and how much better pilots they are, and how their licence is better, and how great their airline was (then why are you here is my first observation) and how they will sort out us loosers over here, after a while they either realize the error of their ways, or they disappear back home where things are so much better...so after all that, who really gives a toss what nationality you like??? If you dont like yanks, then hang out somewhere else where you like the people...how are things ever going to get better over here if we spend out time slagging off people because of their nationality or whatever???? have a nice day mensa BOY...and enjoy your simple-minded existence:ok:

IB 57 I could not have said it any better myself, good on ya

Considering I'm the only person in the U.S. that Iron Butt didn't piss off on his way out... (Ok, my wife likes you too :p )

Americans (U.S., not North, Central or South) are so sheltered from the rest of the world and poorly educated (both in school and current events reporting) most have no chance to get a different view of the world than that offered by the U.S. media.

I'm one of those idiots who voted for Bush twice. But I voted based on domestic issues. I could give a $h!t about his foreign policy prior to Iraq. Now, he's F'ed us over on domestic policy AND gotten us into Iraq (based on advice from people who were in his Dad's administration :eek: ).

Oops. We screwed up.

BTW, if I don't like John Howard, does that make EVERYONE fro Oz an a$$hole? Of course not. Try not to be so closed minded and equate everyone from the U.S. with Bush and Iraq.

So, how much DOES an EK Capt. make? :rolleyes: TC

Menstralboy, If any slagging comes your way it will be a result of your own writting. Try the victim role latter, you may need it.

And why is loser so hard to spell?

On ya' Ernie:D:D

halas

I think Mensa has well and truly got you covered Johny boy

[quote]As for my preferences with whom I work? If I had to grab names from 2 bags of people, one american, one the rest of the planet.......... I'll choose the rest of the planet bag every time. If you equate that to hatred you are wrong. In fact if you equate that to labelling all Americans, that too is wrong. [quote]


Menstalboy, I am so honored that you would pick me, seeing that I would be in the "rest of the planet bag". Keep digging.

I was thinking mensaboy sounds more like exactly the sort of tw*t he professes to despise. He couldn't even come out and say "American" for his first few posts...and he has yet to share with us which enlightened nation he hearkens from that allows him the lofty heights to pi$$ down upon what now...only 150 million people?! (Didn't he decide only 50% of the US "behaves in a manner he finds reprehensible"?) lol

C'mon mensaboy...where are you from? Enquiring minds wanna know!

:}

Be careful guys, Menstralboy might be an outsider just trying to wind us all up. The shrinks are pretty good at pegging people, don't you think they would have picked up Menstralboy's supremacy attitude?