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Desert_Storm 11th April 2007 13:16

:\ It can be worst man! Imagine ourselves with a side stick on the "mini bus". We're going downhill, on skates and no brakes. God help us all

Capt Hair Y Balls 11th April 2007 13:39

Listen matey with the f:mad: ng brown nosing ironbutt has done on this here forum I wouldnt be surprised to hear him expecting to get a direct TRE on the darn A340.

Ahhhh tis nice to dream so be my guest me baldheaded biker boy.............dream on, dream on.

jackbauer 11th April 2007 13:47

Ouch!! Thats a kick in the rocks for the FO's who thought they would get a 76 command out of sequence with seniority. Now you come to 320 you will be in a very long Q for an upgrade. Previously the seniority on 767 meant you had a shorter wait for left seat, but now the system is equalised. No worries chaps it only take about 7 to 10 years from date of joining:D

Capt Hair Y Balls 11th April 2007 13:57

The nerve of you young lads is just mesmerizing :D

Bombay HF 11th April 2007 13:58

Good to hear that there will be no forced redundancies, been there, done that and i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. But if i could be Devils Advocate for a minute...If this is what Flight Department is saying, has anybody asked the new boss? He seems like a hard nut and this policy would go against cost savings. I haven't reached overtime for the last seven months and if we are losing almost one third of the fleet and a HUGE amount of the route network i would imagine we will all be on 45 hours a month, just doesn't seem to fit with his stated goals of reducing losses:confused:

Desert_Storm 11th April 2007 14:42

:mad: I think you are far off from what we thought when we came to GF. I never expected to get the left seat in a short period or jump all over you guys to get the left seat. The reason why I chose GF was because i had the chance to keep flying the 767 (only that) despite of the time itīd take to get the left seat. But for me, going to the minibus is not an option mate. Better you fly it and get some experience so you can even think about flying a wide body as Captain. Do you really think that with 5500 flying hours you are really ready to deal with a heavy airplane?????. wake up man, it takes a lot more than that but of course, flying in the region is not as challengin as flying in the NATS and believe me, 5500 are not enough to fly those areas.

Desert_Storm 11th April 2007 14:51

And please, no hard feelings between all of us ok. We are on the same team (so far) and itīs everyones right to look for a better salary, position and even airplane. Cheers mates

Desert_Storm 11th April 2007 15:02

wow. gutsy speech mate. He's not as bad as he looks mate but admit his voice tone is quite too often too hard :bored:

awss2 11th April 2007 15:28

Capt furry noballs
 
Sorry to detract from the subject , but I can only agree with you furry capt weeniemarbles, a country that drives Aborigines to extinction, has no foreign policy of its own and is afraid of the impeding invasion of the Indonesians is "civilised".

Hence probably your presence here because all the Indians are getting the jobs that you are simply not capable of doing back home.

What a man of courage you are.

Civilisation is not a property of Australia or the west but the title to describe many of the attributes that make up a culture nation etc...

Sorry had to say this one could not keep it within. Was I speaking outloud?

Civilised? Still? or barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen?

Mustapha Rex 11th April 2007 15:33

Me think that capt hairy balls just had his undercarriage checked for corrosion:}

yoohoo748 11th April 2007 15:39

come on guys... 320? 340? does it really matter, they both have their pros and cons. 320 looks like better for family life... home more nights (I think) but tougher pairings. 4 sectors a day? can be busy, but is not a killer unless you happen to be up a bit late the night before, More fun as far as I'm concerned; it's all about T.O. and approach, the middle bit is a bit of a yawn. 340, much more relaxed but longer pairings.... MUCH better destinations and overnights, but with 6 or more day pairings, the family life takes a bit of a beating. Either way you look at it, they both have their merrits and drawbacks too. 76 was nice, a bit inbetween the two. (just many good destinations)
A C-150 would be just fine for me if you paid me the same as a 340. Chance are I'd be home more. In the end, it's just a job. Depends where you want to end up. Long haul is not for everyone.. a puddle jumper (plastic fag jet?) will suit some people just fine.
Cheers.

ironbutt57 11th April 2007 16:05

Actually I'm holding out for a Space shuttler commander position...better per deims...fewer sectors:rolleyes:

bus787 11th April 2007 17:28

opening doors
 
Rumours that ex VPo trying to go to EY same position.
he is offered Trg capt.
prob he was the one who wanted the agreement with Etihad that Gf pilots cannot go there.
he is now working hard to remove it.
Dont spit on the skies it will fall on your head..!!!

Spirit 11th April 2007 19:16

The Exodus to continue?
 
Maybe AD is planning for a lot of guys to leave?

The problem is, though, that if Etihad and Air Arabia continue to offer significantly better FO-salaries than Gulf Air, and with the business picking up again in Europe and North America, and with rumours of new bonds to be imposed for transfers to A320, the new board could soon be facing a situation, where they won't have enough pilots to drive their birds.

Now THAT would be expensive!

But okay, let's wait and see, perhaps they have planned for this option as well?

Most of us Boeingdrivers came to the Gulf to fly heavyclass longhaul. Personally a jump to the A320 doesn't scare me, even if it includes a new bond, but since I would be able do the same type of job on my homecontinent (which I actually used to do), for only a little less money, but with unions (and friends and family a lot closer by), I would strongly urge Gulf Air to carefully consider their salarypolicy.

A saying like "We can do it" can only motivate a guy for a limited amount of time, money normally speak louder...

DesertHawk 11th April 2007 20:40

Hairy Balls: what was that about?? Ironbutt was joking and u come in guns a blazing. also you have no idea about the guy he is WAY WAY more sensible than most of us at GF. u need to relax and be more professional

midseal 11th April 2007 20:44

astro not..... butt, especially if they pay per mile flown. 2 orbits around the globe you will be retiring on touchdown.

GF in shambles gentlemen. what's the recourse for us?. Alot of people keep saying they have seen this before and there is nothing to worry about. Complacency set in amongst the folks that have been here a while. The industry has changed. Fuel (yah yah its subsidized in some form or the other) and insurance cost are not what they use to be. Furthermore the neighbouring airlines are taking advantage of the up trend in the industry. Most of them have truck loads of cash. GF wil be the small fish in a big pond in not a too distant future. If you look really hard the gold livery on GF aircrafts is actually brass, worthless in my opinion.

Dixons Cider 11th April 2007 22:55


GF wil be the small fish in a big pond in not a too distant future.
ummmm......hello!!

Dixons Cider 11th April 2007 23:14

Is it just me...or is there some absolute wallopers on this thread?


Can tell you have no problem signing a bond for the 340 or 330 but forget about in on the a-320. They'll downgrade us and on top of that want us to sign a bond

MikeHunt 13th April 2007 04:11

latest news
 
11 heads are out.....

ODMEA 13th April 2007 04:41

Confused
 
Can anyone help.

Have seen an article in Arabianbusiness.com saying GF will scrap SYD and DUB. I called GF SYD who totally denied pullout from SYD:hmm::confused:

Anyone at GF in BAH who knows what the real truth is here?:ugh:

The times they are a'changin at GF that's for sure!

ODDY:)


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