The info I have states that RNAV/GPS apps were not included in the restrictions which were brought in to help reduce the risk of landing on something that should not be landed on. Namely, offset NPA apps have more risks involved in them than straight in RNAV apps. So...If you need to practice NPA proceedures (as most of us do)then RNAV/GPS is the way to go because it will be identical to the ILS usually, and you can now do it decellerated so atc won't mind.

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Reference is made to FCI No. 2006-067 dated 16th August 2006, regarding Practice Non-Precision Approaches.
All Training Captains to note that GPS Approaches were not included in the above referred FCI and are therefore authorized to be conducted during line training. This will satisfy NPA training requirements during line training.
End Quote.

And MC..... As usual I don't think anybody in the training department proper was even consulted about this FCI so it's a bit unfair to blame them. As for not knowing what goes on, out in the real world on the line..get real! why do you think trainers are happy to spend time in the Sim? ....been there, done that too many times, thanks very much!

you've got to be kidding, right? :*

Not being funny but.... bunch of idiots!!!!!!!!! Just because we dont practise them does that mean we cant do them ... no! go to jfk and get 3 rway changes below 8000ft all with non precision app:s. Its part of our job we should not need to practise them them unless U are unable to do them. Real world gents

pintofstella, yes and no. Yes you should be able to do them, but they do require real world familiarity on a semi-regular basis to maintain the skill. The problem is for those that have never gained a decent level of familiarity with them, whether that is cadets or new joiners who have only flown other types.
Its no that they are difficult, but with all flying skills you don not want pilots putting in 100% cognitive effort into something that is meant to be easy or routine.

pintofstella, I bow to your superior skill and professionalism.

I'm afraid that I'm one of those lesser mortals who'd prefer to have "played the FMA piano" once or twice in less stressful circumstances than three runway changes below 8000' at JFK. I'm also happy to concede that I think I'd have a better chance of getting the FMA concerto right on all threee runway changes into JFK if I'd practised the procedure more often than ONCE every six months doing my PPC.

Picu... perhaps "happy" was not a good choice of words, but it sure beats a night flight to peshawar and that stupid blooody NPA app in crappy weather and having to orbit while you are doing it to allow the millitary to land in front of you. I love a challenge but not that much!