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mogley 19th August 2005 09:26

vfenext,
Yes I am, as you put it, a "newbie" since you are probably one of the guys who insist that someone must have been in the company for at least 20 years before they can raise their voice or make a comment. That gives me 3 more years before I graduate from being a "newbie". No matter what you say it takes 8 years approx from final line check as an F/o to Command.The reason for very few expat upgrades is that all the local F/o's are must senior.Nothing sinister about that me thinks!!!

Trader,
Upgrade on the Airbus fleets is by airline seniority which in turn is based on the date of your final line check. Not too sure what the story is with the B767.

in limbo 19th August 2005 12:02

Reall glad to here life is good at GF Trader.
Beginning to feel like fall over here.;)

Fordec 20th August 2005 09:58

upgrades
 
Hi guys

Here is some info for the trader : Offically there is 22 upgrades planned so far this year airbus but there is a very strong rumor that this number can go up to 42. We will see it in a very short time. The company will announce future fleet plans this october.They are already looking for some aircrafts for the new routes. Mostly for the last 1 year especially all the flights are full. 016-017-019 all of them are overbooked.This is a good sign of course.

Abu Dhabi is taking their 3 aircraft back. Two 320 and one 340. (EG-EH-E?) So becouse there is no aircraft in the market they dry leased 2 320 from Jordan.They are coming at september.

It is true that there wasn`t so many expat upgrades for the last 5 years but there is a very logical unswer for this. People must think little bit before they write something on this forum. If you check the seniorty list you will find out that an upgrade chance was given to all the expats on their seniorty turns.There was only couple of guys on that list and some of them did it some didn`t.

Now things are different. It is time for expats generally.A lot of expats will be upgraded this year.

So in my opinion Gf is a very good company for flying.You will enjoy the cockpit relations, people and the island. It is much much better than EK or QR. Offcourse their fleets are excellent but what about the working envoirement?
See you all
:O :ok:

PAR31 20th August 2005 10:45

GF
 
Fordec thank you very much for your information and think more and more from all the replay that Gulf Air sound as a really nice company to work for.

I hope that every thing will be ok for me.

Par31

JoeJack 20th August 2005 13:23

Fordec
 
Most of info quite reliable. 2 A320s coming still this year from RJ, since we'll be losing 2 A320s nxt year (EG, EH). Remember that EF is already gone. These are the 3 AUH's aircrafts, no A340 on that batch, I'm afraid. Heard something about one more A340, not quite sure about it though.

22 upgrades predicted true... 42 not very feasible I believe, specially with limited SIM slots (SIM is moving to BAH!!!) and limited number of training captains.

About expats upgrades, spot on. Said here before. If you look at the seniority, no expats with seniority for upgrade right now. A few fellows will come next year, hopefully.

Yep, happy times at GF. Cannot complain... a lil' bit, maybe...

Cheers!!

in limbo 20th August 2005 13:29

I know they just finished a group of interviews this week. Does anyone know when the next interviews are slated for?

Trader 20th August 2005 15:54

...and a Jet Airways 340 with crew (5 sets) arriving this weekend.

in limbo 20th August 2005 19:44

Hmmm.
How long will the wet lease go on for????????:rolleyes:

Icarus 22nd August 2005 17:14

At least the next couple of months, if not longer. Doing the GF41/42 BAHATHBAH followed by the nine-o'clock BAHDXBBAH daily.

boeingdriverx 22nd August 2005 17:40

About these Jet Airways A340s :

I was asking me if it really makes sense financially to use wet leased aircraft on these profitable destination? If Gulf was able to operate these destinations, will we not make more money? Is that a temporary solutions or what?

anybody has an idea?

tic 22nd August 2005 23:58

I know of 2 F/o's having joined GF early 2003, were due to start up-grade this month or next, but were told that, late 2004. They have the time and license. Apparently they supercede 'senior' F/o's because of hrs and having an ATP, which others don't. Seniority, doesn't change, and reverts back to normal, when the 'senior' F/O, finally get's his Command, after he has the hrs and or the license. This is 767 fleet. Maybe I'm wrong.


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